can someone briefly explain the #/5 protection thing?
Club which fulfill conditions (to finance own school, minimum 20 milions rubles/year) can protect 5 own kids. This club HAS TO offer the kid contract this summer. If not, club loses right (plus pay fine?? not sure, you have to read rules)
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11 Динамо Мн Ничушкин Валерий Трактор
Dinamo Minsk wanted to draft Nichuskin, but Traktor said NO. So, his KHL right belongs to Traktor. Club has to offer him contract this summer, believe 3years.
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12 Динамо Мн Граборенко Роман Cape Breton
Nichuskin was protected, so Minsk made another choice.
This protecting issuse can go on and go on. Look at Neftechimik vs Ak Bars battle
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10 Нефтехимик Ястребков Всеволод Ак Барс 1/5
11 Нефтехимик Пушкарский Максим Ак Барс 2/5
12 Нефтехимик Пайгин Зият Ак Барс 3/5
13 Нефтехимик Лызин Евгений Ак Барс 4/5
14 Нефтехимик Каштанов Дмитрий Ак Барс 5/5
15 Нефтехимик Шакуров Рафаэль Ак Барс
So teams could properly protect their own players and claim the rights to the leftovers and not let it go into a bidding war if/once they become good enough.
Just because players wont play for the team means nothing. Look at the NHL draft - outside of the first round, none of those kids will ever play in the NHL.
MLB draft? It's like 30 rounds, NONE of those kids are making it, but its a system so teams can claim the rights, bring kids into their development system if they choose, and avoid a free agent bidding war
Whats the point of drafting Swedes and Finns? They won't play in Russia.
as example Amur - they have finnish coach. And I can name another clubs. Point can be aslo in financial compensation (depends on round), which you must pay to RUSSIAN club who raised kid. If your club has weak own kids + you dont want to pay money to some russian club = you pick foreigner.
So teams could properly protect their own players and claim the rights to the leftovers and not let it go into a bidding war if/once they become good enough.
Just because players wont play for the team means nothing. Look at the NHL draft - outside of the first round, none of those kids will ever play in the NHL.
MLB draft? It's like 30 rounds, NONE of those kids are making it, but its a system so teams can claim the rights, bring kids into their development system if they choose, and avoid a free agent bidding war
CSKA had a whopping 16 players drafted from their 95 group, managed to protect 10. Why they drafted Zakharov from Kiev - I dunno, he's got a contract with Donbass already. Maybe they want to use him a leverage in a trade or something...
Donbass tried to get Lisov, CSKA trolled them right back
Hate that we again drafted players that really didn't need to get drafted. Dynamo used their protections early and we could of snatched younger and supposedly more talanted Haralds Podzinsh. Barys made the same mistake with their bid to get back Kazakh player from Omsk. Neftekhimik showed how it's done. They picked Kazan players six times in a row and finally got a player from a great school. How can KHL GM's be so thick, the talant is there to be had left and right but they refuse to see the opportunity. Sigh.
Donbass tried to get Lisov, CSKA trolled them right back
Hate that we again drafted players that really didn't need to get drafted. Dynamo used their protections early and we could of snatched younger and supposedly more talanted Haralds Podzinsh. Barys made the same mistake with their bid to get back Kazakh player from Omsk. Neftekhimik showed how it's done. They picked Kazan players six times in a row and finally got a player from a great school. How can KHL GM's be so thick, the talant is there to be had left and right but they refuse to see the opportunity. Sigh.
I don`t know about Haralds Podzinsh beeing talented,his stats are very mediocre.
Говорят, что драфт в КХЛ не нужен. А тебе он поможет?
– Драфт, конечно, нужен. Клубы выбирают игроков, которые им нравятся. Это очень важно и для самих ребят, им не нужно ради просмотров ездить по всей стране. Парень теперь знает, куда пойдет играть.
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It is said that in the KHL Draft is not needed. And it will help you?
- Draft, of course, needed. Clubs choose the players they like. It is very important for the kids themselves, they do not need to go for the views across the country. Man now knows where to go play.
the clubs that have schools and financially support them to a degree specified in the rules can protect 5 players this year, that they have developed.
CSKA had a whopping 16 players drafted from their 95 group, managed to protect 10. Why they drafted Zakharov from Kiev - I dunno, he's got a contract with Donbass already. Maybe they want to use him a leverage in a trade or something...
i dont understand, if they can protect 5, how did they protect 10?
That's a pretty rare example. Obviously gems exist (Datsyuk and Zetterberg) but I'm just speaking in general. Just like the KHL draft - in general, those picked wont make it.
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Originally Posted by landskronala
Whats the point of drafting Swedes and Finns? They won't play in Russia.
Donbass says hi. Already signed 4 Finns and a Swede this summer.
Whats the point of drafting Swedes and Finns? They won't play in Russia.
Yeah they will
And already are.Niclas Lucenius A Riga draft in 2010 is playing his second season soon. More drafted players to join in the coming years once their contracts run out.
In the first round draft pick HC "Donbass" claimed the 17-year-old native of Kiev Vladislav Lysenko, who "defended" Moscow "Atlanta." The second round of selection became Shakhtar Swede Lindholm Hampus
if atlant vetoed the pick, why did donbass make getting him official news? im so lost
Sokil
I am not native russian speaker but I understand this very good.
В первом раунде драфта ХК "Донбасс" претендовал на 17-летнего уроженца Киева Владислава Лысенко, которого "защитил" подмосковный "Атлант".
Donbass wanted to pick Lysenko, borned in Kiev, WHO WAS PROTECTED by Atlant.
Sokil
I am not native russian speaker but I understand this very good.
В первом раунде драфта ХК "Донбасс" претендовал на 17-летнего уроженца Киева Владислава Лысенко, которого "защитил" подмосковный "Атлант".
Donbass wanted to pick Lysenko, borned in Kiev, WHO WAS PROTECTED by Atlant.