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11-24-2003, 01:06 PM
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Martin Rucinsky named NHL offensive player of week

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wow if this was lundmark everybody would be posting. but alas its just our most consistant foward and a steal of signing by sather

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wow if this was lundmark everybody would be posting. but alas its just our most consistant foward and a steal of signing by sather

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i've always been behind him

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He's played good ever since being moved off of Lindros' wing which is ironic but he hasn't been our most consistent forward.

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i've always been behind him
so have i. the guys plays his heart out every night. im so happy we got him back

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He's played good ever since being moved off of Lindros' wing which is ironic but he hasn't been our most consistent forward.
Dare I ask the question... Who has been more consistent? Rucinsky has played solid hockey on a nightly basis.

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Three good games in one week hardly means he's been our most consistent forward all year and a steal by Sather. Where was his point production before that, huh? If anything, he's more streaky than consistent. I like him, but Ill wait a few more weeks before I form an honest opinion about how good he's been. If he can play the rest of the year with the effort and skating he's shown in the past three games, then Ill be more than satisfied.

As for who has been our most consistent forward, its tough to tell right now because the entire team has been on-and-off all year. Although he's missed some games, Lindros has been pretty good when he's out there. And so has Holik, when used in the proper role. As much as I hate to say it, even Messier deserves some consideration. But up until the last week, Rucinsky has been mostly invisible.

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wow if this was lundmark everybody would be posting. but alas its just our most consistant foward and a steal of signing by sather

your act is getting tiresome! i bet you have a pair of kneepads for the day you meet sather!!

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Dare I ask the question... Who has been more consistent? Rucinsky has played solid hockey on a nightly basis.
I don't think so. I even remember being disapointed by his play until he was moved to Holik's line which wasn't too long ago.

I don't know who would be our most consistent forward but it certainly wouldn't be Rucinsky. Barnaby, Simon and Messier have easily been our most consistent line so I would say one of those three, Kovalev and Nedved have not been lighting it up but, I can't think of any bad game they've had this season and really other then their lack of production they haven't been terrible. I also feel Holik has been more consistent then Rucinsky.

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wow if this was lundmark everybody would be posting. but alas its just our most consistant foward and a steal of signing by sather
If you're gonna say that, then Sather was equally at fault for not signing him last year.

Fact is, he's been great the past week.
My guess is Sather had him hypnotized and Martin thinks it's April and he's playing for his next contract.

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If you're gonna say that, then Sather was equally at fault for not signing him last year.

Fact is, he's been great the past week.
My guess is Sather had him hypnotized and Martin thinks it's April and he's playing for his next contract.
sather wasnt wrong for signing him. if a guy chooses to sign somewhere else who is to stop him?

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sather wasnt wrong for signing him. if a guy chooses to sign somewhere else who is to stop him?
Sather was to stop him. He should have ponied up another 200-300k to Rucinsky rather then waste money on a guy like Dixon Ward... and even though I liked him, Rucinsky would have also been more valuable then Ted Donato.

I don't mean to sound like a huge Rucinsky fan . He's a solid player, but nothing more. Even if we had him all of last year we still wouldn't have made the playoffs, but he would have helped the team a little bit. I do think you could make the argument for him being the most consistent player so far this year. He has played solid hockey pretty much every game so far. Then again, you could probably say the same about Dunham (until the injury), Holik, or Mess. I'm just saying that noone had necessarily gone out and nabbed that title. I think he's been solid yet unspectacular.

Don't worry Jar, one day you will meet the legendary Slats himself!

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Most consistent? Did you only watch his last 3 games or?

From October 10th to November 10th Mr. Consistent had 5 pts in 14 games and no points in his first seven.

Anoother thing to look at about him is the timing of his points.

1 Goal 1 Assist in the 5-1 win over Montreal
1 Goal 2 Assists in the 6-2 win over Pitt
1 Goal 3 Assists in the 6-2 win over Ottawa

He's consistently incosistent in his consistency that's for sure

I'm not saying he's been horrible because he hasn't but just because he got offensive player of the WEEK doesn't mean much although I do give him the fact that he does lead the rags in +/- rating I think it's a little decieving.
Of course we would be talking more about Jamie if he would have gotten it, he's a young kid and it would have been a nice little mark for him.
As far as being a steal goes, doesn't someone else have to want something in order for it to be stolen?
And as for who is our most consistent forward then? Well it's slim pickens I really don't think ANY of our forwards have been even the slightest bit consistent, but in my opinion I would have to give it to either Messier or Holik (save a few games by him, he's gotten alot closer to the role he played in NJ than all of last year).

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Since he was moved to the Holik Carter line he took off and has been our best forward SINCE that point of the season on and he's played very well over the last 3 weeks so lets stop with the one week bullsh1t b/c it's not accurate.

Rosie has been a great signing and while obviously he won't continue on a scoring tear such as this he brings great value at 1.7 million for a guy who brings a good amount of everything and plays both ends of the rinks as well as being able to play on any line he is asked to.Good versatility and I'm really glad we brought him back.

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I didn't want Rucinsky one iota and still don't..But gotta admitt, he's been playing real solid hockey (Him and Barnaby have been the best) for a few weeks and has been a pretty good 2B or 3rd line LW and seems to have found a home with Holik (and Kovalev)

However, consistency has never been Rucinsky's strong suit...Last year he had a great month with the Blues and a real solid POs, but was pretty invisible the rest of the time..So let's see what happens the rest of the year before proclaiming it either way....

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If your idea of consistency is having Rucinsky score 30 goals along with 60 pts then thats just not gonna happen. He's never been a scorer nor should he really need to be on this team. The way I see it, guys like Lindros, Kovalev,Nedved and to an extent Carter should be this teams scorers. Inconsisting scoring is a given when it comes to a 2nd/3rd line winger. Hell in today's NHL most 1st line players are inconsistent when it comes to scoring.

What I do expect from Rucinsky as far as consistency goes is to give an effort out there every night and most importantly his defensive consistency both 5 on 5 and on the PK. This is especially true now that he is on a line with Holik and Kovie. I think he's done very well in this role as his backchecking has been great. For the most part he's been in good defensive position and I honestly think he's been the teams best penalty killer and one of the reasons it's top 10 in the league right now.

I hope he keeps up that consistency because I know that his offensive contributions will soon subside.

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I think Rucinsky has been playing solid hockey for the past couple of weeks. In the Philly game, I thought he played an all around solid game where he was one of better forwards. I'm sure it helps recently that Holik has been playing his best hockey as a Ranger as someone mentioned before, so you have two guys playing to a higher level. I just hope they get Kovalev going also.

I guess I'm looking at the glass full and just happy that a Ranger could actually get player of the week honors!

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wow if this was lundmark everybody would be posting. but alas its just our most consistant foward and a steal of signing by sather
Yah, I think it's pretty fair to say we'd be a lot more excited about a young product of the Rangers system being named player of the week than a 32 year old journeyman playing on his 5th team in 3 years earning the same honor. It's the fact you wouldn't that's surprising.

Kudos to Marty. He's doing the job he was brought here to do.

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Yah, I think it's pretty fair to say we'd be a lot more excited about a young product of the Rangers system being named player of the week than a 32 year old journeyman playing on his 5th team in 3 years earning the same honor. It's the fact you wouldn't that's surprising.

Kudos to Marty. He's doing the job he was brought here to do.
True, you're always gonna be more excited about one of your own excelling. I remember back in 94, except for winning the cup the most exciting thing for me was that Kovie seemed (at the time) to finally break out and become the offensive star we thought he would be and that Leetch was the Conn Smythe winner.

Funny thing about Rucinsky is that he isn't doing the job that he was supposedly brought here to do which was to get Lindros back on track! Still, more importantly, if he continues to play smart then he's contributed in a more important way by filling a whole on left wing and helping out the PK.

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Well I guess I'm just not buying the whole story on him being the most consistent. Is he doing an ok job? Sure but even the most consistent player on the Rangers would be the least consistent player on any other team. Maybe that's my problem I'm trying to compare the leftover garbage we have on our team to other teams around the NHL. Or maybe we just have different views of what consistency means. You all seem to have been jaded into believing consistency means just not coming out and playing horrible. And no consistency doesn't mean scoring a whole lot it means scoring at a decent pace. When you score 65% of your points in 3 games the first word that comes to mind ISN'T consistent.

In all honesty (and maybe I'm alone on this) but there isn't one player I wouldn't trade if the right deal came along (save Blackburn).

Dont' take this as a shot at Martin cause that's not what it's meant to be, but I just haven't been that impressed with him at all this year. There hasn't been that many Rangers that have impressed me, Messier has suprised me, Simon has really done an admirable job (for the most part) and that's really about it.

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Wow, I'm supposed to be impressed because someone is FINALLY going the job they were brought in to do!? Rucinsky could have a career year and it will do nothing to change the fortunes of the Rangers, especially if he doesn't end up doing it with his intended linemate. The fact that Rucinsky is standing out in a good way is also troubling because of all the other players he is outplaying. Players who need to play up to and beyond the level that Rucinsky is playing at in order for the Rangers to be successful.

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Give me 18 minutes, powerplay time and infinite chances and I'llpop in some points for ya. Bad knees and all.

If this team spent 3/4 of the same time on its younger players maybe we wouldn't be constantly scrambling to throw a roster together to "sneak" into the playoffs.

This isnt going anywhere for the long run, it's like having a dam with a leak and stuffing a cork in it.

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