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05-14-2012, 12:08 AM
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Huberdeau

Jurco
Galiev

Coyle
Phillips

Based on potential^

Huberdeau
Coyle
Galiev
Phillips

Jurco

Based on likey hood of reaching it..

Galiev plays a solid two game and will probably never be a PPG guy, but he's got and elite two way skill set IMO.

Jurco could be the Datsyuk minus the defensive game.

Phillips could be an all around solid center.

Huberdeau will be an elite playmaking center.

Coyle may be a better version of Andrew Ladd.

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05-14-2012, 08:26 AM
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If he plays a complete game, why not play him on the third line? I'd like the Wild to roll 3 lines that played great two-way hockey; we're just used to guys that play well in their own end, and suck at offense. Guys like Phillips and Zucker are going to change that mentality that you only get offense from the top 6.
If Phillips can put up 60 points, I doubt a team will be able to afford to keep him on the third line.

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05-14-2012, 08:31 AM
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Huberdeau
Coyle
Phillips
Jurco
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05-14-2012, 10:41 AM
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having not seen him in the NHL I think a steady, long, Brunette-like career for Phillips isn't out of the question.

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05-14-2012, 11:05 AM
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Huberdeau

Jurco
Galiev

Coyle
Phillips

Based on potential^

Huberdeau
Coyle
Galiev
Phillips

Jurco

Based on likey hood of reaching it..

Galiev plays a solid two game and will probably never be a PPG guy, but he's got and elite two way skill set IMO.

Jurco could be the Datsyuk minus the defensive game.

Phillips could be an all around solid center.

Huberdeau will be an elite playmaking center.

Coyle may be a better version of Andrew Ladd.
I though Hubredeau plays wing but other than that I think your reasoning is pretty sound. I doubt anyone from that list will be a ppg player, but that's because only a handful of players are. (Didn't look it up, but I think around 10 players this year.)

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05-14-2012, 06:52 PM
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I though Hubredeau plays wing but other than that I think your reasoning is pretty sound. I doubt anyone from that list will be a ppg player, but that's because only a handful of players are. (Didn't look it up, but I think around 10 players this year.)
The PPG is bound to change, we'll return to the high scoring era soon, the game has gone in cycles.

Jurco and Huberdeau can be PPG guys..

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05-14-2012, 07:04 PM
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I disagree on Galiev.

Kuznetsov who is not coming over yet is a Centremen so is Mojo and Backstrom.

So name some high octane top 6 wingers on the Caps?

Ovechkin.....and Semin if he is still here.

The fact is, in a few seasons when Galiev is ready for the show he'll be playing with an excellent playmaking centre either way....and being a winger will have a great chance to play on one of the top two lines...

I also find it funny that Galiev is tied for the team lead in playoff points 34....and is leading in goals 16 in 17GP...and yet is routinely rated at the bottom of these 5....

My problem with Phillips is projecting him to the pro game. He looks like Mike York.
Well, no one is taking away his amazing playoffs, but you need to look at the bigger picture. Season wise he's been barely a ppg player the last 3 years, he definitely hasn't put up the same kind of numbers as Philips or Huberdeau.

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05-14-2012, 07:12 PM
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Well, no one is taking away his amazing playoffs, but you need to look at the bigger picture. Season wise he's been barely a ppg player the last 3 years, he definitely hasn't put up the same kind of numbers as Philips or Huberdeau.
Sure, but he also hasn't had as much PP time either.

I'd only bump Galiev up to 4th or 3rd at highest. It's clear he's behind Coyle and Hubs...

but to me the difference between Phillips,Jurco and Galiev is not much...and I'd think his playoffs could merit him being 3rd or 4th, rather then 5th on this list...that's all

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05-15-2012, 09:05 AM
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The good thing for Phillips going to the Wild is that, unless he moves to wing, he's most likely going to get enough seasoning in the AHL to not be rushed. The Wild have Koivu, Granlund, Brodziak, and Cullen all in the mix for Centers next year (all top 9 guys most likely), and they have plenty of plugs that can fill in the 4th line Center role coming out of camp. They have so many young guys being integrated into the system next season, that it's going to be great for the organization to have such an infusion of youth when they desperately need it.

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05-22-2012, 07:34 AM
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Great post (Tyler Sanguiene)..previous post.. After watching for two games closely of this Memorial cup, think my earlier post is preet accurate.
Coyle, physically dominant, Phillips underrated gritty and great two way etc.

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05-22-2012, 07:59 AM
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Great post (Tyler Sanguiene)..previous post.. After watching for two games closely of this Memorial cup, think my earlier post is preet accurate.
Coyle, physically dominant, Phillips underrated gritty and great two way etc.
Also, there's a lot of chatter that Granlund starts in MN on the wing next year, so that makes a top 3 of Koivu/Cullen/Brodziak up the middle. With Heatley/Setoguchi/Latendresse/PMB(hopefully)/Granlund/Clutterbuck all projected in their top 9 wing roles, then it allows them to integrate guys like Coyle/Phillips/Zucker/Bulmer/etc into the organization slowly if they need to. The Wild just didn't have any depth last year when guys started getting hurt, so it will be nice to see them have young high end talent at the ready when injuries occur.

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05-22-2012, 09:14 AM
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Gah this team pisses me off/is so good. When you have Phillips as the 5th best in this group, you know you're stacked.

Galiev seems to have gone unnoticed. Dynamic Offensive player... Just look at his playoffs.

Johanson - Backstrom - Semin
Galiev - Kuznetsov - Ovie
Goaaaaallllssssss
Semin's agent said he won't be back this year.

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05-22-2012, 11:52 AM
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Semin's agent said he won't be back this year.
Gandler is an idiot snake oil salesman. When Semin was questioned on Gandler's comments, he denied that he had any intention of leaving Washington. Don't believe that guy - he's a bozo.

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05-22-2012, 12:27 PM
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Wasn't impressed with either Jurco or Galiev these past couple games. IMO, Phillips and Coyle have been playing better than Huberdeau.

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05-22-2012, 01:04 PM
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General consensus on Jurco seems to be that he avoids playing D like the plague. Bad sign for someone with such sick hands and puck skills, IMO.

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05-22-2012, 01:22 PM
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General consensus on Jurco seems to be that he avoids playing D like the plague. Bad sign for someone with such sick hands and puck skills, IMO.
That was the general consensus last season, consensus this season is that he has improved upon that (as well as increasing his production by going to the net more)

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05-22-2012, 02:04 PM
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I'm curious why Galiev (144 pts in 151 games) is being ranked ahead of Phillips (219 pts in 192 games)?
Galiev has been on a tear in these playoffs, for people on this board , its always what you have done last. Unless if your talking about a player like the Sedins than they bring up your career PPG.

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05-22-2012, 04:05 PM
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Galiev has been on a tear in these playoffs, for people on this board , its always what you have done last. Unless if your talking about a player like the Sedins than they bring up your career PPG.
Saint John advanced to the next round of playoffs, and is playing arguably better competition. Just stating what I've seen the last couple games.

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05-26-2012, 07:28 AM
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Thoughts...after memorial cup...has opinion changed...

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05-26-2012, 04:28 PM
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Phillips impressed me most of all the Sea Dogs during the tourney. Huberdeau of course looked absolutely lights out brilliant at times then just disappeared at others. Like flipping a switch.

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