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05-27-2012, 09:53 AM
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Those are the forwards that would interest me.
Most definitely agree!

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05-27-2012, 09:54 AM
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The Rangers were interested in Nash but they were NOT interested in paying the asking price

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His decision had to be a relief to the Rangers, who had pressed Kreider to turn pro after his both freshman and sophomore seasons and who were reluctant to acquire superstar Rick Nash if it meant giving up Kreider to the last-place Columbus Blue Jackets in the trade.

"He wasn't the only reason, but he was a big part," said Gordie Clark, the Rangers' vice-president of player personnel. "They were asking for so bloody much. As I said in the [war] room, 'Jeez, Columbus wants to give us Nash, but they want us to look like Columbus when we get him.'"
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Perhaps that explains why Howson acted with a sense of entitlement through his negotiations regarding Rick Nash with Rangers GM Glen Sather, who lusted after the power winger to such an extent he is believed to have offered the Blue Jackets a five-asset package including Brandon Dubinsky, 21-year-old top defense prospect Tim Erixon, highly regarded 2011 first-round draft choice J.T. Miller and 2010 second-round pick Christian Thomas, along with a 2012 first-round selection in order to make it happen as yesterday’s 3 p.m. trade deadline approached.

There is a difference though between lusting and sinning, the latter the impulse Sather ultimately resisted by rejecting Howson’s laughable demand the package include Dubinsky — plus either Ryan McDonagh or Michael Del Zotto — plus either Derek Stepan or Carl Hagelin — plus 2009 first-rounder Chris Kreider, the Boston College winger who conceivably could join the Rangers when his college season ends — plus a 2012 first-round selection.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/range...#ixzz1w5884vSR

That makes the Rangers look like Columbus

To make the money work,Gaborik would have been moved this summer. They want too much for Nash.

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Justin schultz

Before we give this kid the Norris Trophy lets see what he has before we annoint him with it. If he is a can't miss kid that everyone is saying about him then why not make a last minute deal of a 7th Rounder to get his exclusive rights so we can negotiate with him before any other team . As for other free agents I would love to see the Rangers go after Chris Kelly and David Jones and be a trade player for Jarome Iginla.

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05-27-2012, 09:58 AM
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The talk is the Rangers arenít pleased with the way Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson handled negotiations in a failed deal involving W Rick Nash. Sources say GM Glen Sather felt he made a generous offer ó including C Brandon Dubinsky, D Tim Erixon and prospect C J.T. Miller, along with two first-round picks ó but Howson wouldnít stop asking for D Michael Del Zotto, among others. Some would be surprised if the Rangers even revisit a deal for Nash in the off-season
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Judging by Clark's on the record comments last month,the Rangers are still annoyed at Howson.

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05-27-2012, 09:59 AM
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Sign Schultz
Trade whichever the organization has less stock in with regards to Erixon/McIlrath add to a deal for Nash. I would have to think McIlrath is more vulnerable to be traded, because even though he's physical and fights, we still have yet to see if his skating ability allows him to play that way in the NHL. Hal Gil could be a dominating punishing hitter but mobility is an issue, could it be with McIlrath?

If next years D-Corps resembled this we would be just fine imo..

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Schultz
Del Zotto - Erixon

When it comes to the offense I think we need obviously more offense in general a game breaker I.E Nash would do wonders. He's that guy who beats any defender in this league one on one. After that goal scoring and creativity are our biggest needs. This offense is so easy to shut down because of its lack of creativity.

So make that big splash for Nash, Larry Brooks was suggesting a start package of Dubinsky, McIlrath, 1st, figure Miller & maybe a Zuccarello add in. Thats potentially 4 pieces that dress for Columbus this fall.
I'd trade Anisimov for Sam Gagner. We already have a good batch of pker's so losing Artie wouldn't hurt and offensively were getting more in Gagner. Edmonton gets size and a more defensively responsible center.
Sign D. Jones to play left wing.


Hagelin - Richards - Nash
Kreider - Stepan - Gaborik
D.Jones - Gagner - Callahan
Rupp - Boyle - Prust

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Schultz
Del Zotto - Erixon
Not a bad package but Howson's a stubborn ass and would still demand Kreider.

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05-27-2012, 09:59 AM
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At this point in time I wouldn't trade either Ryan McDonagh or Chris Kreider straight up for Nash. Howson can pound salt.

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05-27-2012, 10:03 AM
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Yeah, I kind of get the vibe that the Nash ship has sailed.

The Rangers were close this year anyway, there's no need to dismantle the team for Nash. And so long as Craig Patrick is involved, he will try to screw the Rangers into trying to overpay for Nash. Not worth it.

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05-27-2012, 10:05 AM
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On d--I've always liked Stuart a lot. A very dependable player. You know what you're getting. Oduya's got pretty good skill and an edge to his game. Very competitive. With Garrison--he has a monster shot from the point--something that we lack. A little iffy on how good an actual defenseman he is--maybe someone else could speak to that. Bryan Allen is a big, steady, no nonsense physical player--a bottom pairing guy. Jackman's had some injury problems over the years but plays a very hard game.

Any one of these guys would have come in handy in the series we just played.
I would definitely be happy adding any of these guys on the right deal.

Garrison intrigues me the most but he is going to be insanely overpaid.

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05-27-2012, 10:08 AM
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I find it ironic that we want another Dartmouth College wing drafted in the 2003 draft...

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05-27-2012, 10:49 AM
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Howson's asking price was hilarious. I know he has to ask for the moon and do what's best for Columbus but there's a point where the demand is too outrageous to even be considered. Did Columbus fire him yet?

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I would definitely be happy adding any of these guys on the right deal.

Garrison intrigues me the most but he is going to be insanely overpaid.
Trust me on this, Garrison is not going to be worth near what he is going to get paid. He has a bunch of flaws his cannon of a shot can't hide.

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05-27-2012, 10:56 AM
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How much would people be willing to shell out for Jones? The relatively limited UFA class may drive his price up, though the threat of cap changes may do the opposite. He'd be a good addition, but if he's severely overpaid we'll regret it.

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05-27-2012, 11:00 AM
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I know you like to sound like the smartest guy in the room but you're not..I would love McIlrath next year but it isnt happening..Kreider brings jam and sandpaper??? Really???? And drop the gloves in Philly??? Dubinsky cant fight to save his life...Go back to class..Sather is our GM and loves toughness...Your lineup has none.
Lol ok.

Kreider was our best forward in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Did the Rangers get pushed around this year? No. No they didn't. If you think replacing Fedotenko with Etem and replacing Mitchell with Jones makes this team weaker, you don't know the players well.

And...YOU are the one who decided to antagonize. "smartest guy in the room". Nope. Again. Never said anything remotely close.


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Only problem with Oduya other than not wanting to over pay for him, or give him a long term deal, is that he's a lefty.

We need a righty to play the right side with Staal. And a righty to play the right side with Del Zotto.

If we can get Schultz, he's a fit with Staal in theory.

Hopefully Sauer can return to pair up with Del Zotto. To give Del Zotto the calming presence he needs as a partner.

Someone like Sauer would be a great pick up.

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05-27-2012, 11:11 AM
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Get David Jones or Ray Whitney and Jarrett Stoll or Chris Kelly. Need more depth in the bottom 6 and Whitney/Jones could step in on either of the top 2 lines and score 20 goals/45-50 points.

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Lol ok.

Kreider was our best forward in the Eastern Conference Finals.

Did the Rangers get pushed around this year? No. No they didn't. If you think replacing Fedotenko with Etem and replacing Mitchell with Jones makes this team weaker, you don't know the players well.

And...YOU are the one who decided to antagonize. "smartest guy in the room". Nope. Again. Never said anything remotely close.
I have seen Etem play and he hasn't impressed me at all. He certainly didn't look NHL ready.

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I find it ironic that we want another Dartmouth College wing drafted in the 2003 draft...
Its a little ironic.

But Jones has (twice) and can score 20+ goals in the NHL.

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05-27-2012, 11:13 AM
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FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Zach Parise ($6.000m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Shane Doan ($4.000m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.000m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.000m)
Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.225m) / Stephane Robidas ($3.300m)
Dylan McIlrath ($1.295m) / Michael Sauer ($1.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.000m)

sign Parise as ufa and Doan

trade with Dallas

to Ranger

Ericsson and Robidas

to Dallas

Dubinsky, Staal, Anisimov and a first rounder and a 2nd

what do you think seem fair for both

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I have seen Etem play and he hasn't impressed me at all. He certainly didn't look NHL ready.
I've seen him play, and his 60 goals are enough to suggest he possesses enough skill along with his frame.

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FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Loui Eriksson ($4.250m)
Zach Parise ($6.000m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Carl Hagelin ($0.875m) / Shane Doan ($4.000m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.000m) / Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brandon Prust ($1.000m)
Mike Rupp ($1.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.225m) / Stephane Robidas ($3.300m)
Dylan McIlrath ($1.295m) / Michael Sauer ($1.250m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.000m)

sign Parise as ufa and Doan

trade with Dallas

to Ranger

Ericsson and Robidas

to Dallas

Dubinsky, Staal, Anisimov and a first rounder and a 2nd

what do you think seem fair for both
Its a fantasy.

Doan isn't leaving Phoenix.

No matter how much we want him, there's not enough cap room for Parise. And he's not leaving Jersey. Unless its for Detroit or Minnesota.

Why trade half our NHL roster for Eriksson?

Rangers are not trading Staal. Or Anisimov.

Dubinsky maybe, if the return is enough. But doubtful.

There won't be big changes. RangerBoy reviewed the reasons why.

No one knows what the cap will be like or what the details of the next CBA will be when the lockout ends.

We are looking at small upgrades.

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We also really need a face off specialist. Any of those guys available this off-season? I wouldn't be opposed to adding Konopka, good PK and great with faceoffs. He could replace Prust, who I'd let walk if he wants 1.5M+

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I've seen him play, and his 60 goals are enough to suggest he possesses enough skill along with his frame.
I am not saying he isn't skilled. I am saying he didn't look NHL ready big difference.

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05-27-2012, 11:31 AM
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I always thought Rick Nash would regret that contract.

He's now stuck in hockey hell.

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There won't be big changes...and there doesn't need to be. BUT this team needs another 25 goal scorer desperately. And a bit more offensive creativity from the bottom 6...and some depth for the bottom D pairing. We don't need to sell the farm for Nash...but a couple of pieces are necessary.

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Out of all of this, the word Lock out concerns me.. Seriously they cant be that stupid can they? You just signed one of your most lucrative television in all of sports AND just about repaired the damage from the last Lock Out... and now your going to do it again??

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