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05-28-2012, 06:09 PM
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Hope some of the Kings Dman employ the fake slapshot dump/shot on goal tactic to try and catch Brodeur leaving the net early. Just do it a couple of times in game 1 to get it into his head that he cant leave the net so willingly, and hopefully that will let the Kings forecheck go to work

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05-28-2012, 06:44 PM
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The flyer fans told us the same thing about their unstoppable line of Jagr-Giroux-Hartnell. Too tough down low they said.
You do know the Kings are nothing like the Flyers, right? Devils fans keep using that series as a reason why the Kings should be worried about playing them when in reality, Philly's system couldn't be more different than ours.

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05-28-2012, 06:47 PM
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You do know the Kings are nothing like the Flyers, right? Devils fans keep using that series as a reason why the Kings should be worried about playing them when in reality, Philly's system couldn't be more different than ours.
I was talking about one of the most productive lines in the NHL, who happen to play in Philadelphia. The Kopitar line is not going to steamroll the devils. Other kings have to step up and they certainly are capable of doing so.

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I was talking about one of the most productive lines in the NHL, who happen to play in Philadelphia. The Kopitar line is not going to steamroll the devils. Other kings have to step up and they certainly are capable of doing so.
I think Kopitar's production will be a function of how Doughty plays more than anything. Philly's problem was they couldn't get the puck out of their defensive zone. While the production wasn't there for the Philly forwards, the main cause of it was because of their lack of puck moving ability more than NJ shutting anyone down.

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I think Kopitar's production will be a function of how Doughty plays more than anything. Philly's problem was they couldn't get the puck out of their defensive zone. While the production wasn't there for the Philly forwards, the main cause of it was because of their lack of puck moving ability more than NJ shutting anyone down.
And Bryz was hot/cold all series.

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05-28-2012, 07:04 PM
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I was talking about one of the most productive lines in the NHL, who happen to play in Philadelphia. The Kopitar line is not going to steamroll the devils. Other kings have to step up and they certainly are capable of doing so.
Very true. The Kings have never had a line that was dominant every single game of a series, so they are used to having other guys/lines pick up the slack when they are shut down and become less effective.

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05-28-2012, 07:08 PM
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I think Kopitar's production will be a function of how Doughty plays more than anything. Philly's problem was they couldn't get the puck out of their defensive zone. While the production wasn't there for the Philly forwards, the main cause of it was because of their lack of puck moving ability more than NJ shutting anyone down.
That's why I earlier said that Doughty can make a huge difference. He can retrieve pucks and ignite the transition unlike any other player on either team.

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05-28-2012, 07:27 PM
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05-28-2012, 07:58 PM
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The flyer fans told us the same thing about their unstoppable line of Jagr-Giroux-Hartnell. Too tough down low they said.
Not the sane ones.

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05-28-2012, 08:42 PM
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Not the sane ones.
Right.. the sane ones would have waxed on about how Bryzgalov is not the answer in goal and their D was a hot mess without Pronger.

I do think the Devils will be a tough team. Certainly as tough a match-up as the Kings have had so far given they're healthy (particularly if Tallinder comes back for the Finals) and have some real scoring threats.

The Devils will have their hands full with the Kings as well. I've linked to those possession charts JFTC came up with during each series because they tell the story - it's really, really hard to shut down 3 scoring lines, and I'll take the Kings D over the Devils D any day of the week.

Some line matching observations and predictions:

http://www.jewelsfromthecrown.com/20...hing-nj-devils

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05-28-2012, 10:03 PM
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We are the underdogs.

10-6 in Devils' favour (NHL experts)!
A team with no offense had them on the ropes twice and blew it, twice. Your boys got this. I'd have rather my boys lost to yours than these guys.

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I think Kopitar's production will be a function of how Doughty plays more than anything. Philly's problem was they couldn't get the puck out of their defensive zone. While the production wasn't there for the Philly forwards, the main cause of it was because of their lack of puck moving ability more than NJ shutting anyone down.
Philly would be really scary if they had a good goalie, Giroux wasn't playing injured and Pronger had been playing. Otherwise, any team that made the second round would have an easy time. The LA of this round and the Philly of the second round aren't even close to comparable.

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we are underdogs because of east coast bias ,and before you talk cany crap I am from washington heights in N.Y.C., they either do not watch us or just can't believe hockey is better in the west, whatever, you can hear it in the reporting on almost every show and if not for JR and Melrose we would not get any love. Today on nhl live they were glowing about how the devils were built right with eight of their draft choices on the roster but competely glosed over the fact we have 12 playing for us and 1 playing for them, just typical of how they see this series going,. Just as well it will be a great series and should we prevail it will be even sweeter GO KINGS GO

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05-28-2012, 10:24 PM
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Philly would be really scary if they had a good goalie, Giroux wasn't playing injured and Pronger had been playing. Otherwise, any team that made the second round would have an easy time. The LA of this round and the Philly of the second round aren't even close to comparable.
Philly's problem was their backend. Carle and a few others were atrocious under the duress of the forecheck. Secondly, Bryzgalov was probably the Flyers best player considering the ice was tilted in the devils favor for most of the games.

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we are underdogs because of east coast bias ,and before you talk cany crap I am from washington heights in N.Y.C., they either do not watch us or just can't believe hockey is better in the west, whatever, you can hear it in the reporting on almost every show and if not for JR and Melrose we would not get any love. Today on nhl live they were glowing about how the devils were built right with eight of their draft choices on the roster but competely glosed over the fact we have 12 playing for us and 1 playing for them, just typical of how they see this series going,. Just as well it will be a great series and should we prevail it will be even sweeter GO KINGS GO
My Ranger bias wants the Kings to beat the crap out of them in 4. My hockey brain thinks they will do it in 6.

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05-28-2012, 10:30 PM
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Philly's problem was their backend. Carle and a few others were atrocious under the duress of the forecheck. Secondly, Bryzgalov was probably the Flyers best player considering the ice was tilted in the devils favor for most of the games.
...and Bryz was atrocious. I think there were a lot of injuries there. The team the Devils faced was not the same team the Rangers barely beat in January.

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...and Bryz was atrocious. I think there were a lot of injuries there. The team the Devils faced was not the same team the Rangers barely beat in January.
Nah. Bryzgalov actually played pretty solid. He played excellently in game 2 until his team folded in the third. He had close to 40 saves in game 4, when the devils could have easily netted 7 or 8 goals.

He was basically left alone to fend for himself back there for the entire series. Coburn was the only defenseman back there who was competent. The flyers were consistently turning over pucks in the corners and behind the net. It was a feeding frenzy with Bryzgalov stuck in the middle of it.

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The Flyers also have very few forwards who are responsible in each zone of the ice. Briere alone got absolutely torched in both series.

That's not an issue at all for the Kings. There really should be no comparison of the two teams.

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I don't think you guys care but Dean Lombardi will be on Hockey Central fan 590 in a few minutes if you guys want to hear him talk.

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I don't think you guys care but Dean Lombardi will be on Hockey Central fan 590 in a few minutes if you guys want to hear him talk.
Thanks for the heads up

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