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05-27-2012, 11:27 AM
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He's listed at 163 lbs. Please tell me that's his draft weight and not his current weight. That's at least 25 lbs too light for a 6'1" defenseman.

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He's listed at 163 lbs. Please tell me that's his draft weight and not his current weight. That's at least 25 lbs too light for a 6'1" defenseman.
He's listed as 6'2" and 185 on his Wisconsin athletic dept profile page. I don't know how often they update those but I think it's safe to say that a kid who is 6'1" to 6'2" and is a two time Hobey Baker award finalist, two time all america, two time WCHA d-man of the year shouldn't have any problem transitioning to the NHL. It's not like he's 5'5" or has some bizarre nutrition ailment like he can't eat anything other than organic, free range turnips.

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I think he can't be very weak from his legs, because he was the fastest skater on that Wisconsin team at their intra-squad competition. Also he can't be very weak from the upper body, because he scores so many goals with huge slapshots.

I think he is just a real deal. He's like right handed young Scott Niedermayer. It's really bad for Anaheim because they will lose their Niedermayer "twice" if and when he signs with another team.

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Wings have about 0% chance of signing Shultz. He needs to average 20 mins a night to max out his ELC bonuses etc. No way he has a chance to do that on the Wings.

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Wings have about 0% chance of signing Shultz. He needs to average 20 mins a night to max out his ELC bonuses etc. No way he has a chance to do that on the Wings.
It depends on his motivation.

Does he want to max out his salary early on and get to UFA fast? If so, then the Wings are out.

Does he want to set himself up for a long, prosperous, and profitable career? If so, there are teams that have a much better record of developing young defensemen. The Wings aren't out entirely in this case, but they're heavy underdogs.

Does he want to be a Wing and doesn't particularly care if he plays right away or maxes out his bonuses? If so, then the Wings have a pretty good chance. That's just about the only scenario where I see him signing here.

Edmonton is my bet. He'll play right away, pile up points with a dynamic young forward corps, and possibly be on a contender in the next few years if they can finish rounding out the rest of the club.

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It depends on his motivation.

Does he want to max out his salary early on and get to UFA fast? If so, then the Wings are out.

Does he want to set himself up for a long, prosperous, and profitable career? If so, there are teams that have a much better record of developing young defensemen. The Wings aren't out entirely in this case, but they're heavy underdogs.

Does he want to be a Wing and doesn't particularly care if he plays right away or maxes out his bonuses? If so, then the Wings have a pretty good chance. That's just about the only scenario where I see him signing here.

Edmonton is my bet. He'll play right away, pile up points with a dynamic young forward corps, and possibly be on a contender in the next few years if they can finish rounding out the rest of the club.
He'd also have to live in Edmonton...

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He'd also have to live in Edmonton...
He's from Kelowna. It's not necessarily right next door, but it's a lot closer than Toronto or Anaheim or Detroit.

And Detroit doesn't have a fabulous reputation as a great place to live either.

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Yeah, Edmonton would make a lot of sense. That's a team that should turn the corner very quickly and become competitive for a long time if they can manage the salary cap better than Chicago did.

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If he's a righty he can have plenty of PP time here.
He is.

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He'd also have to live in Edmonton...
If you don't mind winter, what's wrong with Edmonton?
What's great about living around Detroit?

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If you don't mind winter, what's wrong with Edmonton?
What's great about living around Detroit?
You can snowmobile on the streets at wintertime. I doubt that can happen in Edmonton.

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If a place to live would have been a concern to him, I think he had signed with Anaheim.

This kid also might be a little bit of a headcase. He had promised to Anaheim that he will sign with them all along but then when the chance came.. he didn't. And if he wants a big role and a lot of pp time, he probably wouldn't be a good fit here and won't come here.

He has talent for sure.

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I doubt this guy signs here, so why are we talking about him?

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I doubt this guy signs here, so why are we talking about him?
1. He'll be an UFA on July 1.
2. The DRW need top 4 dmen in a bad way.
3. It's the offseason when we kick around ideas on how to improve the team.

Seems pretty easy and straightforward, let me know which part is difficult for you to grasp.

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1. He'll be an UFA on July 1.
2. The DRW need top 4 dmen in a bad way.
3. It's the offseason when we kick around ideas on how to improve the team.

Seems pretty easy and straightforward, let me know which part is difficult for you to grasp.
4. He wants to sign somewhere close to home, or so I have heard.

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4. He wants to sign somewhere close to home, or so I have heard.
Rumor and innuendo are what the internets were created for.

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Well here we go. With Lidstrom's situation figured out, we've go the money, the time, and the space.

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Anyone who isn't interested in Schultz needs to have their head examined.

obviously, the chances of this happening are long but just imagine for one second how pumped Wings fans would be for a D corps of:

Suter - Quincey (or White if you prefer)
Kronwall - Ericsson
Smith - Schultz
Kindl (or White the money is still there)

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If a place to live would have been a concern to him, I think he had signed with Anaheim.

This kid also might be a little bit of a headcase. He had promised to Anaheim that he will sign with them all along but then when the chance came.. he didn't.
True, but Blake Wheeler did the same thing, and it had everything to do with playing in a non-traditional market. And as of now, there's nothing to suggest that Wheeler has been a headcase or a locker room cancer since joining the NHL.

Schultz is 21. He's probably been the biggest hotshot in Madison, WI for the past few years. He's probably used to people buying his drinks, girls draping themselves over him, etc. If he goes to Anaheim, hes practically a nobody next to all the Los Angeles types. My guess is, he wants to be a rockstar.

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Definitely, go for it.

If we get both Suter and Schultz, then Quincey or Kindl could be traded.

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Definitely, go for it.

If we get both Suter and Schultz, then Quincey or Kindl could be traded.
Wouldn't be surprised if Kindls already on the block...

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Of Kindl, Quincey, White I would most like to see White moved. I think you could get something half way decent for him and I'm not ready to give up on either of Kindl or Quincey yet. Plus, Schultz replaces White as the RD

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Of Kindl, Quincey, White I would most like to see White moved. I think you could get something half way decent for him and I'm not ready to give up on either of Kindl or Quincey yet. Plus, Schultz replaces White as the RD
When looking how effective those left-right handed Los Angeles Kings D-pairings are at the current finals, I definitely want to keep Ian White on this team and add another righty. If there's a chance to get third right handness, then things would be wery wery good again.

Only year we have had those L-R pairings at every pariing was 2002 season.

Lidström - Olausson
Fischer - Chelios
Duschene - Dandenault

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Tomorrow is June 1th. Schultz can become UFA tomorrow. Red Wings should sign him. He can be very good player if we develop him right.

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When looking how effective those left-right handed Los Angeles Kings D-pairings are at the current finals, I definitely want to keep Ian White on this team and add another righty. If there's a chance to get third right handness, then things would be wery wery good again.

Only year we have had those L-R pairings at every pariing was 2002 season.

Lidström - Olausson
Fischer - Chelios
Duschene - Dandenault
That's definitely a good point. Although, I do believe Ericsson can become a consistent RD.

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Tomorrow is June 1th. Schultz can become UFA tomorrow. Red Wings should sign him. He can be very good player if we develop him right.
I believe Schultz can talk to other teams as of tomorrow but cannot officially sign until July 1 just like any other UFA

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