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05-29-2012, 10:25 PM
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It has nothing to do with being a bust.

But the kid is small and weak. And sometimes puts himself in vulnerable positions.

No amount of speed and skill is going to save him at the Pro level if he can't get stronger.

Can't see him competing for a spot for a couple of years. Or trade fodder.

Id love to be wrong.
Very eloquently stated; I have a habit of just labeling a prospect a "bust" without going into specific details as to why I feel that way.

Thanks for the insightful help.

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05-29-2012, 10:28 PM
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when did Christian Thomas become a bust?
When I decided to label him as one.
Nothing personal, I just don't have a warm, fuzzy feeling about his prospects at the pro level.

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05-29-2012, 10:30 PM
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When I decided to label him as one.
Nothing personal, I just don't have a warm, fuzzy feeling about his prospects at the pro level.
Knowing your track record, I bet he becomes a hall of famer

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05-29-2012, 10:35 PM
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Not to mention Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg.
Haha, I didn't want to go there

As I said, the following reasons this thread is so long;

I. It's The Offseason and it's news
II. Highly regarded prospect
III. He could really help this team out in a lot of great ways down the road.

We'll see Mr. Fast in a few weeks at Rookie Camp.

Now get Lindberg signed so he becomes our faceoff hero!

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05-29-2012, 10:48 PM
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Miller and Fast are the only top six caliber forward prospects we have right now IMO.

Outside chance for Fogarty but we have to see how he develops at Notre Dame.

That's why i want to draft Kerdiles. Top six winger. Going to a great program in the fall.
I havent given up on Yogan or CT.

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05-29-2012, 11:01 PM
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If he changed his name to fast he's a GIGANTIC tool, and I'd rather not have him on this team.

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05-29-2012, 11:05 PM
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Hagelin - Step - Fasth would be very nice indeed as a consistent 3rd line
Kreider - Richards - Gaborik as top line
PACK line (maybe upgrading one of AA/Dubinsky with a more consistent offensive threat) would round out our top 9 nicely.
Miller - Boyle/ Lindberg - Prust as our 4th line
Add your traditional goon as a spare (when Big Mac arrives our need for a heavyweight fwd will diminish) or another multipurpose multitask all a rounder
When did the Rangers acquire Big Mac?

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05-29-2012, 11:07 PM
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I havent given up on Yogan or CT.
Yogan as a top six forward? I doubt it. And i love Yogan.

Third line.

Thomas i haven't given up on. But he's a long shot. People like to bring up prospects that need time. Thomas needs time.

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05-29-2012, 11:21 PM
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Yogan needs to stay healthy and develop consistently. His last two years have been ravaged by injuries. Even this year he lost a lot of AHL experience with the ankle injury which still no one knows how bad.

I'm hoping he can be like a 17G-17A third liner who is strong on the puck. Similar to Byfuglien in Chicago.

A lot of people cooled on Thomas because he had a subpar year. Let him train hard and let's see what he got in camp. He clearly has Torts's eyes as the coach went out of his way to mention him during Breakup Day.

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05-29-2012, 11:34 PM
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If he changed his name to fast he's a GIGANTIC tool, and I'd rather not have him on this team.
That's actually how his name is pronounced, according to a poster earlier, the H is silent in swedish, his name was never pronounced with the 'th' sound. He changed it to make it easy for people to say his name correctly.

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05-30-2012, 12:00 AM
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When did the Rangers acquire Big Mac?
10th pick overall in the 2010 draft.

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05-30-2012, 04:46 AM
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He has the same style as Hagelin, Callahan etc.


You guys will love him.

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05-30-2012, 05:04 AM
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Fast is being loaned to HV71 for next season. The Rangers gave Fast the max signing bonus. $270,000. Looks like his salary will be the $900,000 max in 13-14 and 14-15. Fast will be at Rangers prospects camp June 24-29.

http://www.jnytt.se/nyhet/47882/jesp...h-klar-for-nhl

The Swedish paper still refers to him as "Fasth".

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05-30-2012, 07:55 AM
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If he changed his name to fast he's a GIGANTIC tool, and I'd rather not have him on this team.
According to his agent, Jacob Hedin, his birth certificate has the name spelled Fast. The H was something the family added on their own, probably to add some originality. And as previously stated Fast and Fasth is pronounced the same way in Swedish. Hope this clarify things for you.

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The whole line number thing is overblown. A guy might have first line talent, but he's a better fit on the "2nd" line with some other players. Same can be said of a guy who is a "3rd line" talent but brings something to the first line that nobody else on the roster can.

Yogan is that kind of player. He's skilled, gritty, he can skate, he has solid hockey sense. Is he going to be a dominant power forward? Not likely, but he can certainly be a quality piece that compliments your scoring forwards. In fact, Yogan is exactly the kind of player I'd want to put with guys like Richards and Gaborik. He might not score 30 goals, but he can provide the grit and board work that you need to create space for the other guys. He's also skilled enough to make a play. Think Troy Brouwer or a poor-man's Mike Knuble.

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05-30-2012, 10:00 AM
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Re: Thomas

It has nothing to do with being a bust.

But the kid is small and weak. And sometimes puts himself in vulnerable positions.

No amount of speed and skill is going to save him at the Pro level if he can't get stronger.

Can't see him competing for a spot for a couple of years. Or trade fodder.

Id love to be wrong.
I'm going to still reserve judgment, kid is fast and can score and is great with the puck

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05-30-2012, 01:08 PM
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What is his realistic upside?
Another Carl Hagelin, maybe with slightly better passing skills and a little slower. He's smallish but not tiny, very fast but not as fast as Hagelin, good shot, good hands, defensively responsible.

Would be nice if he developed as well as Hagelin, so they could streak down different wings, Hagelin on the left and Fast on the right.

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I have his Player of the Week card in NHL 12 HUT and I boosted him up to a 91 overall and have him playing with Richards and Gaborik. Let's just say, the line dominates.

I dominate anytime I play in NHL 12.... probably could with the 92-93 Ottawa Senators.

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Nice ,thanks for the insight guys, hope he pans out, keep the youngsters coming

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Another Carl Hagelin, maybe with slightly better passing skills and a little slower. He's smallish but not tiny, very fast but not as fast as Hagelin, good shot, good hands, defensively responsible.

Would be nice if he developed as well as Hagelin, so they could streak down different wings, Hagelin on the left and Fast on the right.
Fasth is much more advanced offensively than Hagelin @ comparable ages. He is/was playing well in an upper echelon professional league. He just needs to fill out/mature.

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How far are we from seeing him in a Whale uniform? Or will he go straight to the Rangers once he comes over?

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05-30-2012, 02:00 PM
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How far are we from seeing him in a Whale uniform? Or will he go straight to the Rangers once he comes over?
my guess....Sweden next year, AHL the year after...then if hes ready he'd be called up during that season, or would try to make it the season after.

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my guess....Sweden next year, AHL the year after...then if hes ready he'd be called up during that season, or would try to make it the season after.
Ok great. Hope he pans out, hearing he could be a great top 6 forward one day.

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Saw this news yesterday and it got me excited. He's been my favorite prospect since we drafted him. Looking forward to seeing since videos from rookie camp and maybe traverse city? #fingerscrossed

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my guess....Sweden next year, AHL the year after...then if hes ready he'd be called up during that season, or would try to make it the season after.
Pleased with the signing which was to be expected.

Your projection in this case is the voice of reason, but competition will be determined by who is actually here at that time. Bottom line: he could compete for 4th, maybe even 3rd line (probably 4th) after next year. He is a likely candidate to replace Fedotenko.

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