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05-24-2012, 08:33 AM
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Couple of players stop into my work frequently talked to one yesterday he said "of all the places he played none ment more to him then here".

http://www.thetelegram.com/Sports/20...-next-season/1

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That's great to hear. The key to this being a success in St. John's is icing a competitive team. We want to be able to develop players for the future of the Jets, but at the same time, having a few solid veterans on the team goes a long way in the success of the organization.

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That's great to hear. The key to this being a success in St. John's is icing a competitive team. We want to be able to develop players for the future of the Jets, but at the same time, having a few solid veterans on the team goes a long way in the success of the organization.
To me if you want to be successful year in and year out you need to have a combination of both.

All the confidence Zinger will address our needs in the offseason.

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read somewhere that the Jets would night sign Kendal McFaull and that he would be able to go back into the draft this year

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read somewhere that the Jets would night sign Kendal McFaull and that he would be able to go back into the draft this year
Jets have until June 1st to get D Kendall McFaull, G Fredrik Pettersson-Wentzel, and D Sebastien Owuya under contract or all 3 head back into the draft this year. If they do go back in the draft and go unselected there, they will be UFA's immediately following the draft.

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Jets have until June 1st to get D Kendall McFaull, G Fredrik Pettersson-Wentzel, and D Sebastien Owuya under contract or all 3 head back into the draft this year. If they do go back in the draft and go unselected there, they will be UFA's immediately following the draft.
Hope the Jets can get FPW under contract.McFaull and Owuya will likely not be signed.

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Funny that Icecaps players are starting to exit,Yet Norfolk is still here and won't depart till Sunday,they been on George past 2 nights

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Funny that Icecaps players are starting to exit,Yet Norfolk is still here and won't depart till Sunday,they been on George past 2 nights
that's not entirely true, 90% of the boys were out last night. I was talking to a few of them. One of the guys who has been living beside me is staying in his place for a while and spending what he called his holidays here. His roomate has packed up and moved his stuff somewhere else in the city where he is staying for a few weeks as well. Most of the guys are still here as of 3:00 this morning hahaha

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Hockey's Future Organizational Rankings

Jets are ranked 25th in the latest rankings. Article here: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...ng-2012-21-30/

They say the Jets only top-end offensive prospect is Scheifele, with Telegin a possibility. Also, other than Postma and Redmond, need more offensive defencemen (although could O'Neill be a possibility?).

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Jets are ranked 25th in the latest rankings. Article here: http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...ng-2012-21-30/

They say the Jets only top-end offensive prospect is Scheifele, with Telegin a possibility. Also, other than Postma and Redmond, need more offensive defencemen (although could O'Neill be a possibility?).
I am glad the Jets are moving in the right direction. The 2011 spring rankings had us in 29th place while the 2011 fall rankings had us in 28th. Part of the increase of course is due to some teams graduating their prospects, but no team has gained ground over us either. I attribute the increase to the development of our prospects in St.John's this year. A lot of players had breakout years and showed that True North is on the right track. I am particularity interested in John Albert and Pasquale. I think both players could make the team next year but they would also be better served to play an extra year with more responsibility.

As far as scoring defencemen, I think we will address this in the upcoming draft as there are a lot of good two-way defenders in the first round. The article was also accurate in pointing out that we do not have many top-six forwards. I do not see this changing in the upcoming draft unless we make some deals.

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Unstickied this to reduce clutter, since the Ice Caps and the CHL season is over.

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Peace out McFaull, Owuya and Pettersson-Wentzel.

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The Jets will not be making a contract offer to the 20-year-old Swedish netminder, selected in the fifth round (128th overall) by the Atlanta Thrashers in the 2010 NHL entry draft.

Teams have two years to sign players after initially drafting them and, despite Pettersson-Wentzel's credentials, Jets management will not be offering him a deal before the June 1 deadline.

Also becoming free agents -- meaning the Jets are pushing on and not offering them contracts -- are defencemen Sebastian Owuya and Kendall McFaull.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...155890495.html

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Peace out McFaull, Owuya and Pettersson-Wentzel.



http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...155890495.html
Probably minor but really surprised and kinda not happy they would not even OFFER a contract to Pettersson-Wentzel, he looks like a real solid goaltending prospect, in 2/3 years I have a feeling his will be one of the highly sought after European Free Agent prospects considering how good he's been at just 19 in SEL

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Probably minor but really surprised and kinda not happy they would not even OFFER a contract to Pettersson-Wentzel, he looks like a real solid goaltending prospect, in 2/3 years I have a feeling his will be one of the highly sought after European Free Agent prospects considering how good he's been at just 19 in SEL
Holden someone mentioned when TNSE interviewed him he was not interested in moving to North America? I will try to dig up the post.

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Now, I don't put much stock into what Bill Waters has to say at the best of times. That said, this is an interesting tweet...

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Bill Watters ‏@RealBillWatters Back up goalie for WPG in12/13(if they play) will be Eddie Pasqale.He simply has been the best goalie in the AHL playoffs. StJ Ice Cap is BIG (27 May)
That is pretty much the first time I've seen/heard any media put Pasquale in Winnipeg for the coming season.

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Now, I don't put much stock into what Bill Waters has to say at the best of times. That said, this is an interesting tweet...

That is pretty much the first time I've seen/heard any media put Pasquale in Winnipeg for the coming season.
Not unless they can't get Mason back. Pasquale may have proved himself at an AHL level, but he has yet to put in a full season as a full time number 1 goalie.

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Apparently Winnipeg has chosen to forefeit the rights to more prospects (3) than any other team (most forfeited the rights to 2 at most).

Does this mean Chevy might be in the market to sign 1 or 2 prospects that other teams chose to forfeit the rights to or were unable to come to terms with?

Some interesting names remaining unsigned are:

Joonas Donskoi (FLA)
Ludvig Rensfeldt (CHI)
Petr Straka (CBJ)
Adam Janosik (TBL)
Brock Beukeboom (STL)

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Holden someone mentioned when TNSE interviewed him he was not interested in moving to North America? I will try to dig up the post.
http://www.nwt.se/sport/folj_fbk/article1116259.ece

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– My NHL dreams are still alive but I'm looking forward to next season and hope I can develop further.

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Apparently Winnipeg has chosen to forefeit the rights to more prospects (3) than any other team (most forfeited the rights to 2 at most).

Does this mean Chevy might be in the market to sign 1 or 2 prospects that other teams chose to forfeit the rights to or were unable to come to terms with?

Some interesting names remaining unsigned are:

Joonas Donskoi (FLA)
Ludvig Rensfeldt (CHI)
Petr Straka (CBJ)
Adam Janosik (TBL)
Brock Beukeboom (STL)
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Apparently Winnipeg has chosen to forefeit the rights to more prospects (3) than any other team (most forfeited the rights to 2 at most).

Does this mean Chevy might be in the market to sign 1 or 2 prospects that other teams chose to forfeit the rights to or were unable to come to terms with?

Some interesting names remaining unsigned are:

Joonas Donskoi (FLA)
Ludvig Rensfeldt (CHI)
Petr Straka (CBJ)
Adam Janosik (TBL)
Brock Beukeboom (STL)
Players forfeited on June 1 head back into the draft. All those players are not eligible to be signed. EDIT: Unless they had been passed over at least one season before being drafted. I do not know if any of the ones listed above were.

And there is already much too much defenseman depth is, at least in part, why Owuya and McFaull don't get signed. No idea why FPW wasn't at least offered a contract, but no this does not mean Chevy is necessarily targeting other prospects, it's one of those things, a large number of prospects go unsigned every year. That being said it's not like Chevy is NOT looking for good young talent, just not like he would release a player he liked already protected by Jets for a CHANCE at another player, IMO.

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Holden someone mentioned when TNSE interviewed him he was not interested in moving to North America? I will try to dig up the post.
Even if this was true (joe89's post suggests that it's not) my point was they didn't even OFFER him a contract. Very disappointing, he is a solid prospect and would have fit in very nice competing with Carrozzi for the backup spot in St. John's, maybe potentially starting to give Pasquale some heat as well.


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Considering this it's definitely a little worrisome to me that he wouldn't get an ELC, by all accounts he seems to be a legitimate prospect and it's not like the Jets have an excess of goalies signed..

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Also worth noting, Carolina isn't signing Frederik Andersen who was another late round 2010 goalie who posted Very impressive stats as a starter in the SEL last year. So maybe theres some sort of worry about young goalies out of Sweden?

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According to Elliote Friedman in his 30 Thoughts the Penticton prospects tournament is cancelled this year due to uncertainty regarding the new CBA. Pretty disappointing to me, but at least I guess the Jets should be having the standard prospects mini-camp after the draft this year since it won't be rushed.


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Players forfeited on June 1 head back into the draft. All those players are not eligible to be signed. EDIT: Unless they had been passed over at least one season before being drafted. I do not know if any of the ones listed above were.

And there is already much too much defenseman depth is, at least in part, why Owuya and McFaull don't get signed. No idea why FPW wasn't at least offered a contract, but no this does not mean Chevy is necessarily targeting other prospects, it's one of those things, a large number of prospects go unsigned every year. That being said it's not like Chevy is NOT looking for good young talent, just not like he would release a player he liked already protected by Jets for a CHANCE at another player, IMO.



Even if this was true (joe89's post suggests that it's not) my point was they didn't even OFFER him a contract. Very disappointing, he is a solid prospect and would have fit in very nice competing with Carrozzi for the backup spot in St. John's, maybe potentially starting to give Pasquale some heat as well.
My bad on this one Joe89 on another thread had speculated "it could be he doesn't want to move to North America" but he also said he would dig deeper.......I mistook that for he didn't want to come over..........so that's how rumour's get started

not sure why they wouldn't have made him an offer?

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My bad on this one Joe89 on another thread had speculated "it could be he doesn't want to move to North America" but he also said he would dig deeper.......I mistook that for he didn't want to come over..........so that's how rumour's get started

not sure why they wouldn't have made him an offer?
Maybe the new regime doesn't think he is good enough? Unlike d men or forwards, there are only so many goaltending prospects you can find spots - and more importantly, playing time for.

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Maybe the new regime doesn't think he is good enough? Unlike d men or forwards, there are only so many goaltending prospects you can find spots - and more importantly, playing time for.
According to the WPG Sun a few days ago, he regressed this season and lost his starter role. I'm sure there are more factors than that, though.

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According to the WPG Sun a few days ago, he regressed this season and lost his starter role. I'm sure there are more factors than that, though.
I don't know if he regressed. But if he was supposed to be the starter, he lost the starter role to the (supposedly) best goalie in the SEL this year.

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I've been wondering for some time whether or not we should think about trading Postma and/or Kulda for something (likely picks I would imagine).

With regards to Postma, from what I understand he sounds like a Buff-lite. Good on the offense, not too good at defense. I've read here if we were to trade out Enstrom we should look to Postma to fill the position. Ignoring the difference in ability there is the simple fact Enstrom is LH and Postma is RH. If were to trade anyone and expect Postma to fill the spot I think it would be Buff. Otherwise I think we should try to trade Postma for something useful. I don't know what we could get, maybe a 2nd or third, no idea really?

I like Kulda, think he plays a pretty decent game and was disappointed when he didn't get to stay with the team when he got called up. From the bit I watched him and what I've read about him it seems he would make a pretty good bottom pairing defenceman. The problem with that on the Jets is Stuart has the bottom pairing LD pretty much sewn up. Now my questions is, once Kulda gets a season or two of NHL experience how much of a drop would there be between him and what we have now in Stuart? If Kulda could play the left side for a season and put Stuart on his offside (right) and then trade Stuart, in theory that would be better asset management. We would take something no one wants (Kulda), turn him into something we need (Stuart 2.0), and trade the now surplus Stuart who other teams would want.

If there's anything we have in our system it's middling defensive prospects. We need to start making good use of them to improve the team and I think, in theory, that is the way we should make use of those two.

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If there's anything we have in our system it's middling defensive prospects. We need to start making good use of them to improve the team and I think, in theory, that is the way we should make use of those two.

Thoughts?
I'd personally rather have depth at a position than have to deal with the unpredictability of more draft picks. Players who have no significant time in the NHL won't be moved for as much as they're worth.
Kulda doesn't play physical enough to replace Stuart outright and it also doesn't hurt that Stuart is playing on a ridiculously team-friendly contract. You just don't trade a player like Stuart for the sake of asset management because he won't bring what we want in return without packaging him with something a lot more appealing to other teams.

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