HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Notices

Glen Sather looking at free agency - "We don't trade kids"

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
05-31-2012, 08:40 PM
  #201
Dactyl
Registered User
 
Dactyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,583
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by New York RKY View Post
You're penciling 2 players, who have never played a lick of NHL time right into the lineup?

Our bottom 6 will more than likely look very similar to this year, except probably replace Fedotenko with someone (Zuccarello?).
which bottom 6 would you rather have that one or ours this year i think its an easy decision

Dactyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 08:47 PM
  #202
TheRedressor
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Country: United Nations
Posts: 3,675
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by New York RKY View Post
You're penciling 2 players, who have never played a lick of NHL time right into the lineup?

Our bottom 6 will more than likely look very similar to this year, except probably replace Fedotenko with someone (Zuccarello?).

I really would like to see a more seasoned bottom 6 of:

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Zuccarello
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

TheRedressor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 08:49 PM
  #203
Dactyl
Registered User
 
Dactyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,583
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRedressor View Post
I really would like to see a more seasoned bottom 6 of:

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Zuccarello
Rupp-Boyle-Prust
4th line could kill a game but the third is good. really with we could replace prust and make rupp the extra

Dactyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 08:54 PM
  #204
New York RKY
Moderator
Let's Go Rangers!
 
New York RKY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dirty Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 11,982
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by dc55 View Post
which bottom 6 would you rather have that one or ours this year i think its an easy decision
I'd rather have a bottom 5 with more experience instead of two rookies.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRedressor View Post
I really would like to see a more seasoned bottom 6 of:

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Zuccarello
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Probably something like this, except Dubinsky for personal reasons lol.

__________________
New York RKY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 08:54 PM
  #205
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 16,530
vCash: 500
Like it or not, we need to have 1 shutdown line. With a center other than Boyle, who can win important faceoffs. And wingers with some semblance of speed. I don't know who exactly, but if It's Dubi-Gaustad-Cally, for example, it's a good shutdown line. I'd like the pack line to be it, but even if Dubi takes Artie's faceoffs for him, I just want a faceoff specialist....if only Konopka could play hockey.....

Rangers Fail is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 08:58 PM
  #206
Dactyl
Registered User
 
Dactyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,583
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henriks Broadway Hat View Post
Like it or not, we need to have 1 shutdown line. With a center other than Boyle, who can win important faceoffs. And wingers with some semblance of speed. I don't know who exactly, but if It's Dubi-Gaustad-Cally, for example, it's a good shutdown line. I'd like the pack line to be it, but even if Dubi takes Artie's faceoffs for him, I just want a faceoff specialist....if only Konopka could play hockey.....
hagelin-richie-gabs
kreider-step-cally
dubi-gaustad-kelly
prust/rupp/mitchell/whoever is in torts' doghouse-boyle-JAM/hrivik

Dactyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 09:16 PM
  #207
Barbara Underhill
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuke
 
Barbara Underhill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Montana
Country: United States
Posts: 12,493
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
I feel obligated to point out that just because Gaborik didn't produce on par with his typical output this postseason doesn't mean he won't in future.
He wasn't far off, minus 2002-2003 with MIN his playoff output has been about .5 PPG.

Barbara Underhill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 09:22 PM
  #208
Dactyl
Registered User
 
Dactyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,583
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbara Underhill View Post
He wasn't far off, minus 2002-2003 with MIN his playoff output has been about .5 PPG.
thats not that bad. people make him seem like he was last on the team in points. no one is a goal a game over their career in the playoffs in the era of hockey it just doesnt happen no matter how good the player is. PPG players are rare and are considered incredibly valuable. danny briere is an animal come playoff time gaborik is not. but gabs is payed to play like a god and get us to the playoffs and then play decently-godly in them

Dactyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 09:51 PM
  #209
satrabyk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,863
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BroadwayBlues View Post
I agree.

He was ready to trade some "kids" at the deadline....
Because hes an idiot and hes done it before. If anyone wants to trade Krieder or Hagelin they need a head examination. Del Zotto one player id like to see moved. Kid or not hes just not good enough at what he does.

satrabyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
05-31-2012, 10:09 PM
  #210
Barbara Underhill
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuke
 
Barbara Underhill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Montana
Country: United States
Posts: 12,493
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by satrabyk View Post
Because hes an idiot and hes done it before. If anyone wants to trade Krieder or Hagelin they need a head examination. Del Zotto one player id like to see moved. Kid or not hes just not good enough at what he does.
Oh please, he was going to trade a few prospects. If you have to do it at some point to improve the team, you do it.

Barbara Underhill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 06:34 AM
  #211
Glen Teflon Sather
With an iron fist
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Bloomfield, NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 4,498
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Glen Teflon Sather
Quote:
Originally Posted by dc55 View Post
thats not that bad. people make him seem like he was last on the team in points. no one is a goal a game over their career in the playoffs in the era of hockey it just doesnt happen no matter how good the player is. PPG players are rare and are considered incredibly valuable. danny briere is an animal come playoff time gaborik is not. but gabs is payed to play like a god and get us to the playoffs and then play decently-godly in them
5 goals in 25 playoff games with us, not good enough, nor were his efforts which no one here is getting. His effort and compete levels were pathetic.

Glen Teflon Sather is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 07:08 AM
  #212
TKG
Registered Excuser
 
TKG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 360
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenjets36 View Post
People thought that about Gaborik too... Not saying Semin is the answer or should even be looked at, just saying people surprise you when you give them a chance.

Are you telling me that a line of Gaborik, Semin, and Stepan wouldn't intrigue you?

No. It doesn't intrigue me. I don't like soft hockey players. That is one of the softest lines in the NHL. Where is the grit?

Bottom line you put that line in the playoffs and it would FAIL.

TKG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 07:15 AM
  #213
DutchShamrock
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 4,813
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by New York RKY View Post
You're penciling 2 players, who have never played a lick of NHL time right into the lineup?

Our bottom 6 will more than likely look very similar to this year, except probably replace Fedotenko with someone (Zuccarello?).
My guess is Prust goes, Fedotenko stays. But yeah, you're right about the direction.

DutchShamrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 04:42 PM
  #214
charliemurphy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Concrete Jungle, NYC
Posts: 448
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DutchShamrock View Post
My guess is Prust goes, Fedotenko stays. But yeah, you're right about the direction.
I'd like to see Prust return as well as Fedotenko but bring in someone like PA Parenteau for the bottom 6.

charliemurphy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 05:08 PM
  #215
Fitzy
All Is Well
 
Fitzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 19,232
vCash: 50
If you get Semin you're sure as hell not putting him on a line with Gaborik. We saw how that worked with Wolski on his line this season.

Semin is a right winger. So is Nash, actually. Unless we get Whitney we're going to have to look to Dubi, Kreider, Hagelin to get production from the left side. And that's o.k. because not every line needs to be balanced in terms of scoring ability. What is more important is that the click as a unit.

Putting Naslund with Drury and Gomez didn't work. Yet Voros with Dubi and Zherdev did as did Hossa/Isbister with Dubi and Jagr.

Fitzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 05:22 PM
  #216
-31-
portnor, pls
 
-31-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,818
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Antithesis View Post
If you get Semin you're sure as hell not putting him on a line with Gaborik. We saw how that worked with Wolski on his line this season.

Semin is a right winger. So is Nash, actually. Unless we get Whitney we're going to have to look to Dubi, Kreider, Hagelin to get production from the left side. And that's o.k. because not every line needs to be balanced in terms of scoring ability. What is more important is that the click as a unit.

Putting Naslund with Drury and Gomez didn't work. Yet Voros with Dubi and Zherdev did as did Hossa/Isbister with Dubi and Jagr.
Nash was a left winger up until this season. I bet he still remembers how.

And not that it really matters, but it was Nylander mostly with Hossa/Isbister and Jagr. Isbister and Dubinsky never played on the same team.

-31- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 05:30 PM
  #217
Fitzy
All Is Well
 
Fitzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 19,232
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by -31- View Post
Nash was a left winger up until this season. I bet he still remembers how.

And not that it really matters, but it was Nylander mostly with Hossa/Isbister and Jagr. Isbister and Dubinsky never played on the same team.
Ah, you have a better memory than I do, then. But you're correct. For some reason I was sure that was a line for us at one point.

Fitzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 05:45 PM
  #218
-31-
portnor, pls
 
-31-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,818
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by dc55 View Post
4th line could kill a game but the third is good. really with we could replace prust and make rupp the extra
How about this:

Semin-Boyle-Selanne ?

-31- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 05:53 PM
  #219
Punxrocknyc19*
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 10,233
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by charliemurphy View Post
I'd like to see Prust return as well as Fedotenko but bring in someone like PA Parenteau for the bottom 6.
he isnt a bottom six player....and Rangers let him go for a reason..no thanks.... they should try to snag Bradon Sutter out of Carolina. he is a player that can help the Rangers win faceoff and plays 2ed or 3rd line..

id gladly move Anisimov and a prospect like Thomas and this years second for Sutter and someone like Pitaknen. would love Gleason but he resigned so i doubt he gets traded...

Punxrocknyc19* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 05:58 PM
  #220
-31-
portnor, pls
 
-31-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,818
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punxrocknyc19 View Post
he isnt a bottom six player....and Rangers let him go for a reason..no thanks.... they should try to snag Bradon Sutter out of Carolina. he is a player that can help the Rangers win faceoff and plays 2ed or 3rd line..

id gladly move Anisimov and a prospect like Thomas and this years second for Sutter and someone like Pitaknen. would love Gleason but he resigned so i doubt he gets traded...
the reasons you want Sutter are the same reason Carolina wants to keep him. That package doesn't come close.

-31- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 07:43 PM
  #221
Dactyl
Registered User
 
Dactyl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 5,583
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4th Line Grinder View Post
5 goals in 25 playoff games with us, not good enough, nor were his efforts which no one here is getting. His effort and compete levels were pathetic.
he had an awful injury and he played all 20 games while being either 2nd or 3rd on the team in points gaborik is not why we lost and .5 PPG in the playoffs is not bad

Dactyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-01-2012, 09:59 PM
  #222
donpaulo
Capt Barry Beck
 
donpaulo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: nihon
Country: Japan
Posts: 1,579
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYRangers88 View Post
I think adding Parise and not trading for Nash, while keeping Gaborik, is the best solution.
I agree with this sentiment

Hopefully Gaborik's surgery and rehab have him ready to go by the new years. By that I mean at a game changing level like us NYR fans are used to.

Parise is the path of least resistance when it comes to keeping talent on the roster

Nash fills a role that the team needs but I suspect the asking price will blow a hole in any depth NY has acquired over the past few seasons.

donpaulo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-02-2012, 12:39 AM
  #223
MisterUnspoken
Vintage
 
MisterUnspoken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Country: United States
Posts: 9,995
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to MisterUnspoken
Personally I try to add Chris Stewart from St Louis on the cheap. Maybe trade them Christian Thomas and a 3rd or a 2nd straight up. He's worth a legitimate shot, young and power forward build.

Couldn't hurt @ 2.8m cap hit and fits the team concept well.

MisterUnspoken is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-02-2012, 01:59 AM
  #224
CM Lundqvist
Best In The World
 
CM Lundqvist's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Long Island
Country: United States
Posts: 8,117
vCash: 500
DO NOT WANT Semin.

Guy is a poor man's version of Alex Kovalev, we don't need that again.

Parise may not be a gamebreaker as some like to point out, but he sure as hell would help improve this team in the scoring department, and fits our system like a glove, and is a good leader. So for the Nash over Parise department, take those factors into mind.

CM Lundqvist is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-02-2012, 07:10 AM
  #225
gravey9
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 307
vCash: 500
I don't think it's wise to sign any 3rd or 4th line veteran FAs unless they can be had for under 2 mil - ala fedotenko. in the salary cap era, you need to use the 3rd and 4th lines for integrating youth and building from within. you supplement with vets who are affordable. In today's game, those quick, gritty specialists that might get 20 goals in a good year are easy to find. And they're easier to find at the deadline. You can grab the konopkas and guastads when you need them without giving up much and near the end of the season you can more easily fit that extra pro-rated million or two under the cap. i'd rather spend money on scoring (top 6, and a PPQB on the back end).

gravey9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:22 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.