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05-31-2012, 07:40 PM
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Bounce back from what? I heard he was incredible for us...
Me too

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The similar Gomez speach from last year gives Kaberle better odds at succeding getting his merde toghether, in a weird universe way.

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I think Kabs was always overrated, especially by Leaf fans. The truth is he's always been atrocious defensively and that will never change. Leafs never had much of anything to be excited about, so they over valued kabs, I've watched him a lot and always thought he was poor.

I expect him to eat as much this off season as he did the last one too.

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I think with a good strength program and some private coaching by Larry Robinson he could be a decent #8. Someone you call up from Hamilton when the 7th D gets injured.

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05-31-2012, 09:35 PM
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I'm sure he's gonna be an ok #7
YA right who exactly leaps him on that horrible D corps

1. Markov - hoepfully can bounce back
2. Subban - nuf said
3. Gorges - Steady reliable guy
4. Kaberle - 2nd PP unit with Diaz (Kaberle the passer and Diaz the shooter)
5. Emelin - Hopefully can continue to progress and be a shutdown type D-man
6. Diaz - Decent at best (PP time and limited 5 on 5)
7. Weber - Will get moved (not happy with his role)
8. St-Denis - Will move up to 7 when Weber is traded
9. Tinordi - AHL BOUND
10. Beaulieu - AHL BOUND


With any luck Tinordi shines in camp and makes this team, I would pair him with Emelin as in your face shutdown duo.

Montreal needs a guy like Tinordi badly and in a hurry (doubt he'll be ready though)
Perfect 3-4 pair with Emelin - That's some serious hitting D-men!

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I know Subban and Markov will be working the first PP unit, but I wouldn't mind seeing what Kaberle could do up there with Markov. Both are very creative with moving the puck on the blue line and Markov has a hell of a shot for Kaberle to set him up. Kaberle was at his most effective when playing the PP in Toronto with McCabe, a guy that could hammer the puck.

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05-31-2012, 09:49 PM
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Let me start by saying I'm not a fan of Kaberle but looking back he wasn't horrible for Montreal
43 3 19 22 -6

His 22 pts in 43 game put him 7th in scoring for the habs add his 9pts in Carolina and he sits 6th only 5 behind Subban.

Kaberle is what he is....Offensive D-man. Don't expect him to be a shutdown guy or lay the big hit because he won't.

He's always been there to put points on the board.

Montreal tried to use him as a 3rd D-man last year..........

Problem is Montreal has too many similar D-men

Weber Diaz Kaberle ...All three need to go and the 5 - 6 need to be big stay home simple game D-men.

In fact Gorges should be a number 5

1. Markov
2. Subban
3. Emelin
4. Free Agent
5. Gorges
6. Free Agent
7. St-Denis
8. Tinordi
9. Beaulieu

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Bounce back from what? I heard he was incredible for us...
Wrong question, WS. It's not bounce back from what.

It's bounce back to where? T.O. Boston. Carolina.

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Haters. He's overpaid but there is no reason he can't anchor the left point on the third pair and the PP.

He is still capable of putting up 40 points in a year,
He won't be anchoring the left point on the PP if Markov is healthy and if he can't do that, there isn't much else he can offer. It's highly unlikely he will get anywhere close to 40 points if he is on the 2nd PP unit.

Kaberle isn't really a defenseman... he is more of a specialist and not the kind of guy you want on your third pairing. Keeping Markov, Kaberle, Diaz and Gorges in the lineup every day means we would once again be playing with a predominantly undersized, non-physical defensive group.

The team needs at least one more physical defenseman who is taking a regular shift. Last season proved that.

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05-31-2012, 10:11 PM
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I really hope he bounces back, just on another team.

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05-31-2012, 10:14 PM
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I really don't get the negativity towards Kaberle. There's a reason a guy with his career numbers only got 4.25 for 3 years when he finally hit UFA for the first time in his career. He's a flawed d-man, but he has many assets and on a team with the right surrounding guys he'll be a good contributor.

And as others have mentioned it allows for a guy like Beaulieu to not be rushed.

And, if he plays well he becomes a very tradeable asset as next year moves along, if other guys who are younger make the case for more minutes.

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05-31-2012, 10:26 PM
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He's top 8 with the worst team in the east,any other team and he would be in the farm club

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The quicker we get rid of this guy, the better.

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I hated the trade but Gomez he is not, the fact is he can put uo more points from the blueline than Gomez can as center.

Kaberle is horribly soft but is s very good with the puck. Training with Plekanec can be just what he needs to improve from a season where he came in out of shape and lacking motivation.

Plus we still don't really know what Markov is capable of.

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Overpaid underachieving athlete going on the record saying he hopes to improve next season?

I can see how this is news.

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The similar Gomez speach from last year gives Kaberle better odds at succeding getting his merde toghether, in a weird universe way.
I thought of the Gomez-looking-for-rebound speech too. And how did that turn out for us ? Good for him if his desire to bounce back is genuine and he's ready to put in the work ; but those nice off-season talking points, in the words of Jim Mora , they mean diddly-poo

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I really hope he bounces back, just on another team.
My sentiment exactly. Or maybe keep him, hope that he does play OK, increase his value and (dream scenario) trade him for valuable pick at the deadline.

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05-31-2012, 11:18 PM
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We see these types of articles every off season. He can do all the conditioning he wants, but it doesn't change the his lackadaisical mentality to defend the crease. That's where he gets in the most trouble.
Like they say "pictures or didn't happen", for this issue we can say "prove or stop talking".

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05-31-2012, 11:37 PM
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Kaberle just needs to get back in shape TBH

The extra weight he carried last season hurt his skating

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Like they say "pictures or didn't happen", for this issue we can say "prove or stop talking".
my opinion is based on the games I have seen, which is a pretty fair chunk. Do you really expect me to take the time to find highlights or something? I'd rather have you just disagree.

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I think we just had unrealistic expectations for Kaberle. He was never a defensive juggernaut. He was never strong in his own zone. He makes break-out passes, and is calm in the offensive zone with the puck. He'll put up some numbers. I don't have an issue with him, he just needs to be used properly.

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06-01-2012, 12:10 AM
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Like they say "pictures or didn't happen", for this issue we can say "prove or stop talking".
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my opinion is based on the games I have seen, which is a pretty fair chunk. Do you really expect me to take the time to find highlights or something? I'd rather have you just disagree.
I'm pretty sure his comment was meant directly towards Kaberle, whose bounce back he'll believe when he sees it, rather than hearing about it during the summer

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y'all be some haters.

Let's hope Kaberle comes back in shape next season and helps put us back in the playoffs. We just have to understand he's a 3rd pairing PP guy. Is he overpaid? Well obviously but whatever. As soon as we drop Gomez, we can easily put up with his 4.5 million for 40-50 points

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Hope he bounces back, but just like with Gomez, talk is cheap.

With that said, it applies to most habs. When you are one of the worst teams in the league, a lot of players need a bounce back year.

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These off season comments remind me of the Expos days. Galarraga every Winter, "This year I hit the ball" Still .223 come Juin ...

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I think he just meant he is gonna bounce.

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