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06-01-2012, 05:17 PM
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Well if he is taking a year of at 38 he might as well retire because a comeback at 39 after one year away from the game is going to be pretty hard if not impossible

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On a more boring note, does anyone know how a "year off" affects the mutual obligations under the contract? I assume it means the Bruins own his rights for the full term of the non-performed part of the contract if and when he returns?

And if that's the case, why is the cap hit incurred next year even if he doesn't play? Why wouldn't the hit be deferred as well?

Does the CBA cover this type of situation?

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06-01-2012, 05:21 PM
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Not exactly, no. I'll let someone who works in HR get into the intricacies of how leaves of absence work here. It can get... complicated. And that's without the complexity of an actual contract.
I won't bore you all.

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Honestly, the most emotion I've ever seen out of Chiarelli in recent years was the NHL's handling of the Marchand "clipping" incident. He was visibly pissed off.

Other than that. The guy is a closed book with everything really.
Business first. I like that, such as with the Patriots also. As opposed to money and media attention first, with the Red Sox.

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06-01-2012, 05:22 PM
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I guess that is the crux of the issue for me, and apologies for being a bit snarky in my reply. If he wants to be with his family, what is a year off going to do? He should retire and enjoy them what else does he have to accomplish? Good for him to go out at the top of his game.

But if it is more than just spending time with the family why wouldn't Chiarelli come out and say we will support Tim in his decisions?

A strange situation all the way around
I think because he was contacted by Thomas's agent and not man to man so who knows what this is.
The conspiracy nut in me wants to say this is his way of controlling all negotistions as to where he ends up. He sets the bar at no services. No trade value, and full cap hit and goes from there. Screws the b's potential return for him as well as puts him squarely in the drivers seat as far as if he'll play and for who.
Maybe it's just how I was raised but you do something like this man to
Man if possible at least in person on he phone if not, not through your agent.
Again maybe it's just me

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I think because he was contacted by Thomas's agent and not man to man so who knows what this is.
The conspiracy nut in me wants to say this is his way of controlling all negotistions as to where he ends up. He sets the bar at no services. No trade value, and full cap hit and goes from there. Screws the b's potential return for him as well as puts him squarely in the drivers seat as far as if he'll play and for who.
Maybe it's just how I was raised but you do something like this man to
Man if possible at least in person on he phone if not, not through your agent.
Again maybe it's just me
Where was it confirmed this was through his agent?

EDIT - ah on Boston.com

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There are plenty of low spending teams that would like to have that 5M Cap Hit on their payroll paying 0$.

He he does really take a year off, then just give him away to one of these teams to free up that 5M.

Watching on Capgeek, the Avs have only 23M commited for next year. Chia will gladly help them raise this by 5M...

Give Thomas away and forget about any asset value he might have had in a normal situation. Tough outcome for the Bruins.

Yet giving him away looks like the only outcome that makes sense. How realistic is it for another team to do it?


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I think because he was contacted by Thomas's agent and not man to man so who knows what this is.
The conspiracy nut in me wants to say this is his way of controlling all negotistions as to where he ends up. He sets the bar at no services. No trade value, and full cap hit and goes from there. Screws the b's potential return for him as well as puts him squarely in the drivers seat as far as if he'll play and for who.
Maybe it's just how I was raised but you do something like this man to
Man if possible at least in person on he phone if not, not through your agent.
Again maybe it's just me


I don't....what?

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or it's the most important thing in your life because you made a commitment and you want to honor your responsibilities.


and no "job" ever comes before that
"Family" can mean a lot of things (which will no doubt lead to a lot of speculation). I would never expect a man to put his "job" before family.

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I'm confused. In the US you just call your boss and tell him you won't come to work for the next year and he has to accept that? Holy christ.
In Germany a guy can't give his notice essentially during the summer holiday and quit? Tim Thomas quit. He won't get paid. If he comes back he's going to negotiate a new contract with whoever he wants.

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I'm confused. In the US you just call your boss and tell him you won't come to work for the next year and he has to accept that? Holy christ.
No, traditionally you give two weeks' notice.

Thomas gave five months' notice.

Take time off, don't get paid. Just like any other job.

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If I had had the chance to save my father's life, you can bet your sweet ass I would have taken ten years off to do it. For me, nothing, and I mean NOTHING, is more important than my family and close friends. If I have to move across the world to save one of my kids or husband, bet your sweet ass again, I would do it without hesitation..........

Some of us put life ahead of careers and self. Sorry you're not one of those people, but don't judge others for doing so.
Nice one Audrey (as usual).

I wish only the best for Tim Thomas.

I would hate to see him in net for another team.

No Timmy Thomas in 2011 = No Stanley Cup for Boston.

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On a more boring note, does anyone know how a "year off" affects the mutual obligations under the contract? I assume it means the Bruins own his rights for the full term of the non-performed part of the contract if and when he returns?

And if that's the case, why is the cap hit incurred next year even if he doesn't play? Why wouldn't the hit be deferred as well?

Does the CBA cover this type of situation?

Thomas is on an over age 35 contract. The cap hit applies if he doesn't play, even if he retires.

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06-01-2012, 05:46 PM
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LOVING IT. It was his only play, and boston forced it. Having a drink for you timmy tonight. Only man alive to give 5Mil the finger over princible and pride in oneself. Only man alive. Timmy I salute you this day my firend!

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LOVING IT. It was his only play, and boston forced it. Having a drink for you timmy tonight. Only man alive to give 5Mil the finger over princible and pride in oneself. Only man alive. Timmy I salute you this day my firend!
Boston forced WHAT, exactly?

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This is definitly a bad move against the team and the organizaton unless there is a serious matter. I think Peter wouldnt even have used the word disapointed if he knew of a serious matter. He is defintly done here ---this is the last and worst straw by a mile. It doesnt matter if he changes his mind tomorrow -- get used to rask and khudobin because those are our boys now . If thomas didnt want to play next year he shouldnt have signed for it. As far as the olympics go good luck beating out both Quick and miller to take the starting job after sitting out a year. Im sure he plans on playing this time not watching. Great great goalie thanks for the cup but rask is a better team guy hopefully he can turn out great.

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Thomas is on an over age 35 contract. The cap hit applies if he doesn't play, even if he retires.
We all know that. The big question is, what if he takes the year, gets suspended, the Bruins have his cap hit and he doesn't play, but then he plays the following year? Do the Bruins have to pay him but the cap hit is $0? The Bruins shouldn't have to have an extra year of his cap hit because he wants a year off.

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