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05-27-2012, 10:25 AM
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It would certainly create a stop-gap. Think about it, if we draft Galenchyuk let's not rush him into the NHL, give him time to develop. Vinny fits perfectly. He can play for another couple years as our #1 Center, and then once he retires, we bring up a fully-developed and all-star in Alex.
a 9 year stop-gap?

Vinny can't be a stop-gap with his contract.

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a 9 year stop-gap?

Vinny can't be a stop-gap with his contract.
If we can have the cap space why not? He brings in leader-ship and is a whole lot better than Bozak or Connolly.

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Another example of Leafs fans proposing scraps for a washed-up star.
Although i don't agree with the deal, you wrote this wrong. Fixed

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and there was a time early in the negotiation that they weren't close, he didn't at any point that I know of say they wouldn't get a deal done
How did he know they weren't close? According to Stamkos and Yzerman the contract had been done for weeks. Kypreos also tweeted contract averages of 7.4 mil and 6.5 which Yzerman had to come out and say wasn't accurate. Kypreos was guessing and like the rest of us didn't know what was happening on the inside until the end.
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and for the record the Leafs are not interested in Vincent Lecavalier and apparently Vincent Lecavalier has no interest in leaving Tampa

Stevie Y has come out and said he is no longer/not interested in Luongo(and not interested in shopping Lacavalier "around"........hmmm wonder why he said that?)
Yzerman made that comment when he first turned GM 2 years ago and hasn't and hasn't needed to comment on his stance on Vinny since, so I'm not sure what you are suggesting.

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If we look at Yzerman's history there are 2 absolutes.

1) He doesn't let stuff leak out.

2) When he says something, he means it.

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That's just the thing wrong with this whole conjecture - Yzerman hasn't mentioned Vinny's name at all recently. When Yzerman said he would not be trading Vinny (and that Vinny was a part of the team's core and future going forward), it was when he first became GM of the team.

So there is no "link" between Luongo and Lecavalier, other than what writers/reporters are making.

That is not Yzerman.

Yzerman is not interested in Luongo's contract as he has said (and to be factual, he had no point said he ever was). He has NEVER said anything about Vinny in any discussion about Luongo.
your right he's not interested, at least not at the price and certainly not interested in having two very long term and expensive contracts on the books

for all those with some kind of bone to pick

go back to the the initial post that started all you link freaks wagging

do you see where I said EXTRAPOLATION...........look it up......enjoy your day


and whether you'd like to think so or not Kypreos, knows whats happening around the league, but like anyone else from MacKenzie/Dreger to MacLean/Proteau, what they hear over the grapevine and report may not always happen

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go back to the the initial post that started all you link freaks wagging
What is your issue with people expecting you to back up what you say? If you believe everything people tell you, then I've got some swampland in Florida to sell you...

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do you see where I said EXTRAPOLATION...........look it up......enjoy your day
Yes, but you are extrapolating on bad data. We've got direct quotes from the Tampa GM that Lecavalier won't be traded. You have speculation from a guy who makes his living off of saying things to get people to pay attention to him.

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your right he's not interested, at least not at the price and certainly not interested in having two very long term and expensive contracts on the books

for all those with some kind of bone to pick

go back to the the initial post that started all you link freaks wagging

do you see where I said EXTRAPOLATION...........look it up......enjoy your day


and whether you'd like to think so or not Kypreos, knows whats happening around the league, but like anyone else from MacKenzie/Dreger to MacLean/Proteau, what they hear over the grapevine and report may not always happen
You used the word 'extrapolation' in regards to Vinny's declining stats. Okay. Not even relevant to what the discussion has been in regards to your posts.

Then you went and said the following, "Vancouver just shut down Mr Yzerman flat, when he mentioned that Vinny had to be a part of any deal for Luongo."

Which is where posters started pointing out the complete error of such a statement, because again, the point is, Yzerman did not say what you just claimed he did. To be more clear, Vancouver did not 'shut down Mr Yzerman flat' because Yzerman didn't say anything to begin with.

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your right he's not interested, at least not at the price and certainly not interested in having two very long term and expensive contracts on the books

for all those with some kind of bone to pick

go back to the the initial post that started all you link freaks wagging

do you see where I said EXTRAPOLATION...........look it up......enjoy your day


and whether you'd like to think so or not Kypreos, knows whats happening around the league, but like anyone else from MacKenzie/Dreger to MacLean/Proteau, what they hear over the grapevine and report may not always happen
Hitler extrapolated through information he received killing jews was a good idea.

But seriously what is wrong with people telling you to get your facts in order? Any form of proof would be good. This is a forum of hockey fans. I repeat do you think that you are the only one to hear this? Why is it so hard to just agree you might have miss heard or just plain made it up?

Mac just said yesterday (the link is in the lou thread) that Lou has garnered little to no interest from teams. Yzerman has straight out said from before the whole fiasco started that he wanted a young #1 to progress forward with the youth core in Tampa. So why move laterally with moving Lecav for Lou (in terms of contract and age). It just makes no sense, you made no sense, and your "source" who only you alone heard say this and we have to take your word it was Kypper, makes no sense. I just realised this is like "Joseph Smith Jr. Syndrome". If you don't know who that is look it up. He is the guy who invented Mormonism.

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Can't believe some Leaf fans wouldn't want Vinny. His contract is really only a 6 year deal cause the last two years are retirement years.

For those who think he is done really must not have watched him ripping it up last year in the playoffs when he finally got to play with St. Louis again when he had 19 points in 18 playoff games.

Vinny is overpaid but if he were to hit UFA he'd still get 6 million or more on a multi year deal. Even Grabo got 5.5 a year and has no near the top end game that Vinny has.

Vinny isn't the ideal number one number to acquire like say a Crosby, Kopitar, Stamkos, etc are but those guys don't become available and if they did you'd have to sell your entire prospect pool and young assets to acquire them.

Lets say the Leafs were able to acquire Vinny but not have to give up cheap young assets like Gardiner, Kadri, 5th overall this year than some of the cost of his contract is offset by the fact that the Leafs are able to not have to give up good contracts in the process (kinda like how the Phaneuf deal was great for the Leafs).

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Im a Leafs fan too and I even roll my eyes and sigh and this pathetic attempt for an offer.

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