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06-03-2012, 01:39 PM
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yeah they do.

Read the whole thread before posting.

p.s. It was under the assumption Radulov wanted to play in vancouver and would sign for 4 years at 5 mil per

so dont bother with the 'doesnt wanna be here' or bolting back to KHL or 'wont play for (place various coach here)

Radulov is perfectly capable of playing the NHL schedule and did so for years before bolting. The proposal was under those conditions and your damn right the Canucks pay that. More even.
I disagree. Even if Radulov wanted to play in Vancouver etc. I would not want him on my team. In the playoffs I saw nothing but motivational issues that, quite honestly, would scare the hell out of me if I were a GM offering a longterm contract.

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06-03-2012, 01:41 PM
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Its shocks me that NYR, isn't capped out?

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Its shocks me that NYR, isn't capped out?
Why does that shock you.

One of the youngest teams in the NHL means that alot of those kids are on ELC deals or 2nd contracts which are usually not bank breaking.

AND we have 3.6 of dead money towards the Drury buyout.

That is reducing this summer to 1.6 freeing up 2 million of additional cap space.

That 2 and Dubi can get us a solid player going forward and not negatively impact the team going forward.

The Rangers have been operating very smartly over the last 3 years

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06-03-2012, 01:47 PM
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Why does that shock you.

One of the youngest teams in the NHL means that alot of those kids are on ELC deals or 2nd contracts which are usually not bank breaking.

AND we have 3.6 of dead money towards the Drury buyout.

That is reducing this summer to 1.6 freeing up 2 million of additional cap space.

That 2 and Dubi can get us a solid player going forward and not negatively impact the team going forward.

The Rangers have been operating very smartly over the last 3 years
It's just a stigma attached to the Rangers from the earlier Sather days when crazy contracts seemingly flowed like water. I agree though, the Rags are setup very nicely for the future. They have lots of options in my opinion.

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I hope he goes there. He'd ruin that room.

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depending on the cost...id move a 2ed round pick in a deal for him but no way id move a first round pick.
Rangers 28th pick is as good as an early second rounder

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He would play in a big market..... Once a trade is worked out... He won't come cheap because he's staying in NA.

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Someone on HF surely will, but in the real world who knows... Fairly sizable risk involved for the team acquiring his rights.
That's funny when your offer is the legendary HF 2nd round pick

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06-03-2012, 02:19 PM
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If hes willing to sign 4 years for 5mil per

Canucks offer rights to Raymond plus 2012 1st for him.
Canucks need more players to perform in the playoffs, not more no show.

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06-03-2012, 02:27 PM
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I disagree. Even if Radulov wanted to play in Vancouver etc. I would not want him on my team. In the playoffs I saw nothing but motivational issues that, quite honestly, would scare the hell out of me if I were a GM offering a longterm contract.
I dont consider a 4 year deal for the guy in his prime a long term. But I also have to consider that he had been out of the NHL for years and was then thrust into a very high pressure situation on a strange team .

I looked at his skill and I didnt see a motivational issue. If there is one its the same one its been all along. He hates playing in Nashville. If he hated the whole NHL he wouldnt have come back to shave a year off his ELC.

Just my .02

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Rangers 28th pick is as good as an early second rounder
No, its better than any second rounder.

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That's funny when your offer is the legendary HF 2nd round pick
That's not my offer it's what was brought up in discussion earlier. I'll run with it because I'm not that interested in Radulov...

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Would be interesting to see how Alexander and John T would get along.

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lol at HFboards...

radulov obviously has off ice issues. radulov wants to play in the NHL.. poile isn't going to take a low second for radulov. radulov likes nashville and as a RFA, he would be in nashville next year..so why would NSH trade their most talented forward for a low second?

nashville will not get what they want for radulov.. I feel pretty confident in that but anyone thinking radulov will be had for cheap is sincerely off base.

asking price starts at a 1st + or a young top 6 forward / top 4 defenseman (suter void) +

radulov would be the rangers most talented forward.. obviously not the better player over gaborik or richards. he won't be traded for a second, nonetheless. and honestly, watching radulov since he has been drafted, im not sure why any team would give what it would take to acquire him. simple case of risk and reward...

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Would offer Phoenix's 1st + 4th or something

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Would offer Phoenix's 1st + 4th or something
this is about where (value wise) i feel radulov gets traded for.

although im thinking poile would want assests back that aren't just picks/prospects. but i guess whatever he thinks is the best offer. if he is convinced, trading radulov is best

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06-03-2012, 03:29 PM
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Hell, if Nashville is just giving him away, the Oil will take him for a 2nd..Slide him to the left wing and we'd have Hall between him and Yakupov...
Yes. I'm sure Radulov would much rather play on a rebuilding team in Edmonton than in NYC for a contender.

If he wasn't/isn't happy on a good team in Nashville, why the hell would he play on a crappy team in Edmonton?

Common sense people, please.

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06-03-2012, 03:37 PM
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lol at HFboards...

radulov obviously has off ice issues. radulov wants to play in the NHL.. poile isn't going to take a low second for radulov. radulov likes nashville and as a RFA, he would be in nashville next year..so why would NSH trade their most talented forward for a low second?

nashville will not get what they want for radulov.. I feel pretty confident in that but anyone thinking radulov will be had for cheap is sincerely off base.

asking price starts at a 1st + or a young top 6 forward / top 4 defenseman (suter void) +

radulov would be the rangers most talented forward.. obviously not the better player over gaborik or richards. he won't be traded for a second, nonetheless. and honestly, watching radulov since he has been drafted, im not sure why any team would give what it would take to acquire him. simple case of risk and reward...
I agree. This is why i offered Raymond and our first in 2012 . Under the impression Radulov would want to come to vancouver and sign for 4 years.

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06-03-2012, 03:55 PM
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I agree. This is why i offered Raymond and our first in 2012 . Under the impression Radulov would want to come to vancouver and sign for 4 years.
He says a 1st + top 6 forward....and you offered a very late first with Mason Raymond, who is by no means a top 6 guy.

I dont think I'd trade Radulov for that.

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06-03-2012, 03:57 PM
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Can't buy everybody. Already have Lundquist making big money, two overpaid forwards (Richards and Gaborik) and a complete dead piece (Dubinsky) with a lot of money coming to him. 4.2 mill a year for a fourth line garbage can. You have 3 excellent young players who are restricted free agents after next season (Stepan, Hagelin and McDonough) Expect to spend 12 mill atleast on those 3. Doesn't leave any room for a big free agent contract unless you can unload Gaborik or Boob-insky

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He says a 1st + top 6 forward....and you offered a very late first with Mason Raymond, who is by no means a top 6 guy.

I dont think I'd trade Radulov for that.
I'm thinking a 1st + top 9 guy ... or maybe a staal + mid pick ..

its hard to gauge actual value on a guy like radulov

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Would be interesting to see how Alexander and John T would get along.
Some filthy hands on that line. I would be careful with pairing JT91 with a Russian, but in a best case scenario, lots and lots of pretty goals

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I'm thinking a 1st + top 9 guy ... or maybe a staal + mid pick ..

its hard to gauge actual value on a guy like radulov
If I was the Rangers I wouldn't do A-Rad for Staal straight up. Staal is a top 2 d-man and I still think he's only gonna get better. Just too much promise to give up for a high risk high reward guy

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06-03-2012, 04:06 PM
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Id send a 2nd from buffalo (42nd) how big is his cap hit gonna be though? I wouldnt want more than 4
You might have an issue getting him for just your 12th overall pick, let alone a second rounder. What a ridiculous offer

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06-03-2012, 04:27 PM
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Favors? Radulov is no different than another group III. He is not going to re-sign with Nashville. So do they want to get something for him or not? Another team is trading for his negotiating rights. What are negotiating rights worth? He is eligible to become a group III in two years. Radulov will sign with CSKA or SKA for the next two years and come back when he is a group III.
Yes, but on the flip side why settle for a 2nd rounder? Radulov is worth more than that, NyR should atleast offer a 1st. If they don't, they will need to wait 2 years to have a shot at him.

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