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06-03-2012, 03:08 PM
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well i agree that nj wouldnt give up there frist this year theres always next year lol id do a tedenby frist in 13

edmonton is tricky i personally would do a mvp 2nd and omark since noone there seem to want him. I really dont see edmonton and la trading again while dean is still the gm Since i dont see him being fired anytime soon. I doubt this trade happens
Edmonton won't be trading for Bernier. We have Dubnyk for now, I'm not saying one is better than the other but for better or worse were giving Dubnyk his shot at the starting role after earning it this past season.

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06-03-2012, 03:15 PM
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"My philosophy is I’m trying to find that Hall of Fame goaltender. But good luck trying to do that, it takes time. We’ll find that guy through the draft or unrestricted free agency — that guy isn’t there at this time."

That's the quote I'm going off of from Yzerman.

Basically saying, I don't think Bernier is "the hall of fame goaltender" he's talking about. I don't see him going after him, but you never know, that's why again I said almost guarantee.

Vokoun or Harding gives him a couple of solid options for the time being until he finds his guy.
That quote was out of context.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/lightn...ry-trade-route

Yzerman has repeatedly said his first choice is to trade for a young goaltender with free agency as a back up plan.

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06-03-2012, 03:23 PM
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That quote was out of context.
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/lightn...ry-trade-route

Yzerman has repeatedly said his first choice is to trade for a young goaltender with free agency as a back up plan.
Well I can only go by whats been reported up here. I still don't see it. I think LA is going to ask too much for Yzerman's liking. I think Harding could give a good 50/30 split with Garon of solid goaltending.

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06-03-2012, 04:49 PM
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I think LA should move him this summer. With Thomas sitting out next season, and Vancouver unlikely to move Schneider, Bernier could most desirable goaltending asset on the market--Luongo is obviously more proven, but that contract could be difficult to swallow for many teams. I can't imagine Bernier is too enthralled with the prospect of going into another season with LA and getting fewer than 20 starts. I think the Kings should get the best haul they can for him, and either start breaking in Jones as the backup or go with a one-year stopgap and then bring up Jones for 2013-14.

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06-03-2012, 06:06 PM
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I can see one of NJ, Edm or TB going after him.

NJ involving one or two of-Tedenby, Merrill, Wedgwood, Kinkaid, Burlon etc. Without a first this year I don't expect NJ to give up a 2nd.
EDM around Paajarvi_svensson +
*cough* Dubnyk *cough*

Edmonton is looking just fine between the pipes for now and in the future. It's the defense they need help with.

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"My philosophy is Im trying to find that Hall of Fame goaltender. But good luck trying to do that, it takes time. Well find that guy through the draft or unrestricted free agency that guy isnt there at this time."

That's the quote I'm going off of from Yzerman.

Basically saying, I don't think Bernier is "the hall of fame goaltender" he's talking about. I don't see him going after him, but you never know, that's why again I said almost guarantee.

Vokoun or Harding gives him a couple of solid options for the time being until he finds his guy.
Yzerman actually clarified that statement later on, saying he was misquoted. He actually meant "Well find that guy through the draft or unrestricted free agency if that guy isnt there at this time."

Basically trading for Schneider/Bernier is option #1, if that doesn't work out then they'll go for someone like Vokoun or Harding (like you said).

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06-03-2012, 06:34 PM
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*cough* Dubnyk *cough*

Edmonton is looking just fine between the pipes for now and in the future. It's the defense they need help with.



Yzerman actually clarified that statement later on, saying he was misquoted. He actually meant "Well find that guy through the draft or unrestricted free agency if that guy isnt there at this time."

Basically trading for Schneider/Bernier is option #1, if that doesn't work out then they'll go for someone like Vokoun or Harding (like you said).
As I said, I can only go by what I've seen reported. But it makes sense.

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06-03-2012, 09:01 PM
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I expect LA to sign Quick to an extension as soon as the CBA allows it. Likely in the 6-8 yr range for a $6-7M cap hit. I also see LA only moving Bernier if offered a great deal. Something along the lines of a Brett Connolly or TB's two first rounders (with LA adding a d prospect)

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06-03-2012, 09:46 PM
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I expect LA to sign Quick to an extension as soon as the CBA allows it. Likely in the 6-8 yr range for a $6-7M cap hit. I also see LA only moving Bernier if offered a great deal. Something along the lines of a Brett Connolly or TB's two first rounders (with LA adding a d prospect)
I agree with u on the extension soon after the cba lets them. Where i disagree is the lenght of contract. I think 5 years max. As amazing as hes played we don't want to run into lougno or Rick DiPietro situation. 5 years would also put him the year after kopitar hits his next free agentcy I think hes also going to get less money then kopi at 6.8 and more then richards 5.8 so 6.4ish millon maybe

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06-03-2012, 09:54 PM
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He will be moved next summer or at the deadline next year as long as Quick signs. He will not be moved this summer unless its for a player they cant pass up like Kane. And thats only if they miss out on Parise.

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He will be moved next summer or at the deadline next year as long as Quick signs. He will not be moved this summer unless its for a player they cant pass up like Kane. And thats only if they miss out on Parise.
thats your opinion but the kings dont have any picks in this draft till the 4th round they also need a young top end winger So if kane is there yeah but i think tampa for connelly and picks makes sence to me I think we will be fine with martin jones backing up quick. Its only 20 ish games max.

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06-03-2012, 10:02 PM
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I say hes not ready yet. If the Bolts want to take him as a project they will still have to pay the kings. He was an 11th overall and still young. He wont be cheap

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*cough* Dubnyk *cough*

Edmonton is looking just fine between the pipes for now and in the future. It's the defense they need help with.



Yzerman actually clarified that statement later on, saying he was misquoted. He actually meant "Well find that guy through the draft or unrestricted free agency if that guy isnt there at this time."

Basically trading for Schneider/Bernier is option #1, if that doesn't work out then they'll go for someone like Vokoun or Harding (like you said).
Schneider is unavail. Take bernier if you can. If not, sign Vokoun I heard hes cloning himself because every team seems to think they are just going to sign him for cheap.

If not then try Harding he is a poor mans mike smith but we know how he worked out.

I would honestly try to get Bernier for Connolly and Detriots 1st.

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06-03-2012, 11:01 PM
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thats your opinion but the kings dont have any picks in this draft till the 4th round they also need a young top end winger So if kane is there yeah but i think tampa for connelly and picks makes sence to me I think we will be fine with martin jones backing up quick. Its only 20 ish games max.

While I agree Connolly would be a great addition to the organization, there is currently no place for him on the team. LA already has a young top end winger in their system in Toffoli.

Bernier only gets traded for a established first line player in a package deal or for something like Connolly after Quick is signed. Any other move would be dumb.

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06-03-2012, 11:16 PM
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While I agree Connolly would be a great addition to the organization, there is currently no place for him on the team. LA already has a young top end winger in their system in Toffoli.

Bernier only gets traded for a established first line player in a package deal or for something like Connolly after Quick is signed. Any other move would be dumb.
He would look great on the 3rd line next year and then up maybe on top line when /if injuries occur. As far as toffoli hes at least a year or two away no need to rush him then. Take the further along guy myself. Also we need a pick for sure in this years top 90 to get a lw wing with some top end potential We get the top 10 pick we may be able to trade up and get forsberg who in my opinion would be the winger we need.

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He would look great on the 3rd line next year and then up maybe on top line when /if injuries occur. As far as toffoli hes at least a year or two away no need to rush him then. Take the further along guy myself. Also we need a pick for sure in this years top 90 to get a lw wing with some top end potential We get the top 10 pick we may be able to trade up and get forsberg who in my opinion would be the winger we need.
I understand what you are trying to say. It would be awesome if that happened but it's not.

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06-04-2012, 12:24 AM
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Lol at what kings fans expect to get for Bernier. Both tb firsts, Connolly and a first hahaha.

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06-04-2012, 12:29 AM
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Lol at what kings fans expect to get for Bernier. Both tb firsts, Connolly and a first hahaha.
i think u need to reread post 8 it clearly states other pieces going back to tb


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Lol at what kings fans expect to get for Bernier. Both tb firsts, Connolly and a first hahaha.
Lol at people who expect to get bernier for something of little significance.

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thats your opinion but the kings dont have any picks in this draft till the 4th round they also need a young top end winger So if kane is there yeah but i think tampa for connelly and picks makes sence to me I think we will be fine with martin jones backing up quick. Its only 20 ish games max.
The Kings will have the 29th pick in the draft, no matter if they win or lose.

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Lol at people who expect to get bernier for something of little significance.
I don't get it. James Reimer has put up a .911SV% in 71 NHL games. Johnathan Bernier has put up a .910SV% in 48 NHL games. But if I proposed Reimer for Brett Connolly and the 19th overall, I'd get flamed to hell and back. Add in the fact that Los Angeles actually knows how to play defense and it's even more confusing. So, honest question, what's the hype around Bernier about? Because he was an 11th overall pick?


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I don't get it. James Reimer has put up a .911SV% in 71 NHL games. Johnathan Bernier has put up a .910SV% in 48 NHL games. But if I proposed Reimer for Brett Connolly and the 19th overall, I'd get flamed to hell and back. Add in the fact that Los Angeles actually knows how to play defense and it's even more confusing. So, honest question, what's the hype around Bernier about? Because he was an 11th overall pick?
perceived upside?

i've never been impressed with reimer, half the time he doesn't look like he's tracking the puck properly. stats don't always tell the entire story

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just so u know hes already signed next year. The resigning would be a extention onto his contract so the 3.05 million is correct for next year.
Quick is scheduled to be a UFA after next year. If you think he will not immediately get a long term extension at the earliest possible chance you are crazy.

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If LA is expecting Connolly + Det 1st then Muzzin/Forbert will be coming back.

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The Kings will have the 29th pick in the draft, no matter if they win or lose.
They traded that pick to Columbus so no they wont.

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They traded that pick to Columbus so no they wont.
It's for this year or next years 1st and I'm sure Columbus will take next years.

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