The addition of Vokoun leads me to believe Fleury is on the move. They may have soured on him after these last playoffs. I'd love the move. Fleury is the best in the league athletically and would be a great fit for this team and offense first style. Crawford would likely go the other way and I've always thought Vokoun would be the perfect mentor for Crawford as they play the same positional style so that makes sense too. Obviously we'd be giving up more than just Crawford.
I'd guess:
Stalberg
Saad
Crawford
Hopefully we could keep Saad but I think the above deal gets it done and does a lot for Pittsburgh. Obviously, we get a real No. 1 so it helps us a lot too. Gotta give to get.
Would love to see Bowman make a bigger deal with Staal involved as well. Fleury might be overrated, but still is one of the better goaltenders in the league. Love his athleticism behind the net. I would think TB/Yzerman would give them a call first. I doubt PIT trades him though.
Fleury would cost more than Crawford, and who even knows if he's an upgrade. To acquire him would also cost us more than just Crawford. So that's already 2 losses (higher cap hit, loss of other pieces). Based on his playoffs performance this year, I'm not sure if he's even a better goalie at this point.
Fleury would cost more than Crawford, and who even knows if he's an upgrade. To acquire him would also cost us more than just Crawford. So that's already 2 losses (higher cap hit, loss of other pieces). Based on his playoffs performance this year, I'm not sure if he's even a better goalie at this point.
Right on. Adding Stahlberg and Saad to the deal makes it really horrible for the Hawks. I'd consider Fleury for crawford even based on some good years in Fleury's past but no more than that. I don't know why Bowman couldn't get in on a deal like the Vokoun one. Other teams address their needs and get better. Bowman sits and waits...
Oh, snap. I thought coldsteel was just throwing a goalie proposal out there. Pittsburgh is either going to keep going with Fleury and have a very reliable backup if he ***** the bed or is going to roll with Vokoun as the starter.
Also, if we're going to make a trade with Pittsburgh, let's go after Staal. I would like to think we're kicking the tires on another goaltender, but I don't think MAF is the right solution given his atrocious playoff performance and big contract.
So funny how quickly people forget the great things someone has done and only remember a **** year. I'd take Fleury in a heartbeat.
So, are you on the "keep Crawford" bandwagon?
I mean, he did damn well in the playoffs against Vancouver and was awful this year. No one on this board talks about his fairly solid start, just his awful season in 2011-12.
Also, if we're going to make a trade with Pittsburgh, let's go after Staal. I would like to think we're kicking the tires on another goaltender, but I don't think MAF is the right solution given his atrocious playoff performance and big contract.
What about Kane for Staal and Fleury? Hey, I don't want to move Kane but if the return was strong and helped us overcome Bowman's idiocy (not bringing in a good cheap goalie), then it may be the only way the team improves.
What about Kane for Staal and Fleury? Hey, I don't want to move Kane but if the return was strong and helped us overcome Bowman's idiocy (not bringing in a good cheap goalie), then it may be the only way the team improves.
Absolutely not.
You either trade Sharp for Staal and a guy like Tangradi or trade Bolland, Morin, and a couple first-round picks. After the second deal, you could sign a third line center like Moore instead of having Kruger in the top-nine.
So funny how quickly people forget the great things someone has done and only remember a **** year. I'd take Fleury in a heartbeat.
I don't know that Fleury has done all these great things. He's always been overrated...and lucky to be on a talented team. Luongo is better than Fleury IMO, except for age and contract.
I mean, he did damn well in the playoffs against Vancouver and was awful this year. No one on this board talks about his fairly solid start, just his awful season in 2011-12.
I'm fine with giving Crawford another chance. Yes he sucked ass this year, no one is questioning that. There's been a lot of goaltenders that have off years, it happens. If he starts to **** the bed again then I'd have no problem with shipping him off. If I had the choice of Crawford or Fleury, I'm taking Fleury by a long shot.
