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What should the Habs do with our 1st pick?

View Poll Results: What should the Habs do with our 1st pick?
Stay put 177 73.75%
Trade up 29 12.08%
Trade down 14 5.83%
Mega trade for established player 20 8.33%
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06-05-2012, 12:20 AM
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Trade the pick to L'anticambre in return for professional discussion.

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06-05-2012, 12:33 AM
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Kovalev or Benoit Pouliot clone. Pass! Galchenyuk, Murray or Dumba are safe at three.
Kovalev won the cup in his second season and was the third best scorer in these playoffs. He also has 1000+ NHL points and enjoyed an irregular but excellent career. It would be amazing if we drafted a player of his skill level with similar playoff clutchness.

Pouliot and Grigorenko are nothing alike. Both are tall and thats it. Grigorenko plays a thinking game while Pouliot has always played like a headless chicken. In junior he was big enough to overpower kids with little effort and had a decent enough shot and good speed to produce while being all offense. Meanwhile Grigorenko's bread in butter is his offensive vision and amazing skillset. What he has cannot be learnt.

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06-05-2012, 12:42 AM
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keep the pick for sure.i,m expecting us to land a nice offensive player.

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06-05-2012, 01:22 AM
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Yeah, he's also my pick at 3rd (unless Yakupov's not gone), but his knee!!!! So young already to have that kinda injury. I know Wiz lived a similar situation, and even worse, still, Gally's a gamble.
How serious was the injury? Did it need surgery?

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06-05-2012, 01:53 AM
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How serious was the injury? Did it need surgery?


Didn't look super cereal, but yes, it required ACL surgery. Was reportedly pain-free when he came back though.

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06-05-2012, 02:19 AM
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We already have a 2nd line center that can play an all around game in Plekanec. One bad year with the Montreal fans and media breathing down Staal's neck could be enough for him to walk next season as a UFA. Let's draft the #1 center this team has so desperately needed for years, Alex Galchenyuk.
You are comparing Staal with Pleks? Staal is a number one centre on most teams in this league that doesnt have Crosby on its roster. I think he would flurrish in Montreal... I have grown wary of Russians... Most are constant underachievers. We shall see what happens in a couple of weeks

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06-05-2012, 02:47 AM
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Didn't look super cereal, but yes, it required ACL surgery. Was reportedly pain-free when he came back though.
Hmm... Still, it's something to consider. We need a centre, but we don't need a disabled centre.

What's his style of play like?


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06-05-2012, 02:57 AM
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A pick this high represents a rare opportunity to get a top ten scorer; it's easy to show that top five picks at forward are off the charts more valuable than lower ones. In other words, the smartest gamble you can make with a top five pick is on a high scoring forward. "Two way" players may look safer, but you can find them elsewhere. Of all the players available, Grig, after Yakupov, seems to represent that possibility best. Sure, there are question marks raised about his mental game -- but this is a seventeen year old kid we're talking about. His vision, skill -- these are assets you can't easily find. The smart thing with a second round pick is to ask what the downside is; with a top five, you ask, What's the upside potential. Grig seems to have the most. Scary, but the right thing to do.

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06-05-2012, 06:52 AM
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A pick this high represents a rare opportunity to get a top ten scorer; it's easy to show that top five picks at forward are off the charts more valuable than lower ones. In other words, the smartest gamble you can make with a top five pick is on a high scoring forward. "Two way" players may look safer, but you can find them elsewhere. Of all the players available, Grig, after Yakupov, seems to represent that possibility best. Sure, there are question marks raised about his mental game -- but this is a seventeen year old kid we're talking about. His vision, skill -- these are assets you can't easily find. The smart thing with a second round pick is to ask what the downside is; with a top five, you ask, What's the upside potential. Grig seems to have the most. Scary, but the right thing to do.
Habs have needed a big 1st center for like 15 years at least.
You can make a winger from a center but you can't make a center from a winger.
Habs should draft a center for rounds 1-2-3.
Yes Grig for me also.

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06-05-2012, 06:57 AM
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I voted to trade down.

Trade down to 5-6 and get TT or Grigs and another good asset for the future. This team could use all the assets they can get....

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06-05-2012, 07:00 AM
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I wouldn't trade up under any circumstance. I might trade down but we already have a number of 2nd rounder in the next 2 drafts.

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Habs have needed a big 1st center for like 15 years at least.
You can make a winger from a center but you can't make a center from a winger.
Habs should draft a center for rounds 1-2-3.
Yes Grig for me also.
Galchenyuk is heavier then Grigorenko and Grigorenko could be 5'11", 180lbs and it wouldn't really make any difference because of his style of play.

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06-05-2012, 07:03 AM
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I wouldn't trade up under any circumstance. I might trade down but we already have a number of 2nd rounder in the next 2 drafts.

there is no such thing as too many picks, especially 2nd rounders.

If they can trade down to 5-6 and get the player they might want anyways, Grigs or TT AND get another asset....sign me up

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06-05-2012, 07:06 AM
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there is no such thing as too many picks, especially 2nd rounders.

If they can trade down to 5-6 and get the player they might want anyways, Grigs or TT AND get another asset....sign me up
Which is why I said I might trade down. A potential scenario would be to trade down, get another 2nd rounder and package that pick with #32 for another late first rounder.

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06-05-2012, 08:48 AM
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Stay put and draft Galchenyuk or Murray, if Galchenyuk is drafted by Columbus then draft Murray and we will have the best defense cores in the league in 3 years.

Tinordi - Subban
Gorges - Murray
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06-05-2012, 08:50 AM
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How serious was the injury? Did it need surgery?
If I remember well, yes he did get surgery (don't know if it was graft or donor). He played only two games this year.

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06-05-2012, 09:28 AM
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trade for a bonafide young starter if there's an offer instead of this crapshoot draft.

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06-05-2012, 09:58 AM
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I voted to trade down.

Trade down to 5-6 and get TT or Grigs and another good asset for the future. This team could use all the assets they can get....
I would hate it if they traded down. The last time the Habs had a top 3 pick was 1980, trading down from 3rd in a weak draft seems silly to me so I hope they don't.

Imo the Habs #1 weakness is the lack of top end talent in the prospect pool, so for me trading down at 3rd is too risky so we can get an extra 2nd rounder.

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there is no such thing as too many picks, especially 2nd rounders.

If they can trade down to 5-6 and get the player they might want anyways, Grigs or TT AND get another asset....sign me up
there is such a thing as too many draft picks.

1. You have to give up assets to get additional picks, in a weak draft I would not want to see us go for quanity over quality.

2. You have to think about their development, there's only so many spots in the AHL when these kids turn pro at the same time (unless we are talking about NCAA picks).

3. you have the 50 contract limit so if you have too many picks and you are up against the 50 limit it's going to cause a problem when you go to sign these kids before the June 1st deadline.

4. Cap space down the road. If you have too many good young players at the same time, after their ELC's are up it's going to cost you.

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trade for a bonafide young starter if there's an offer instead of this crapshoot draft.
#3 overall picks are not usually a crapshoot.

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Hmm... Still, it's something to consider. We need a centre, but we don't need a disabled centre.

What's his style of play like?
The one thing for me that stands out is his shiftyness and vision. Almost as good as Nail.

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Trade the pick to L'anticambre in return for professional discussion.
I would have them on stage and make them announce the pick

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#3 overall picks are not usually a crapshoot.
Bogosian. Turris. J Johnson. Barker.

If it was me, I'd try something to move up to get Yakupov. Edmonton really needs defense and they could really use Murray and a few other picks (we have a lot of 2nds)... Although I know many won't be interested. I would also want to trade for an great established "young" (25-26 yo) player that can help us now.

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#3 overall picks are not usually a crapshoot.
Agree!

Horton, Toews, Bogosian, Gaborik, Bouwmeester and Jack Johnson were all 3rd overall over the past decade! I think that we are going to draft a franchise player one way or another and let's hope he can make an impact as early as 2013/2014.

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06-05-2012, 10:10 AM
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Hold on to the pick and pick best player available unless a move can be made for the first pick that is reasonable.

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keep the pick. Draft Grigorenko if he's still there at 3

QMJHL player. looks adjusted on North American Ice. Great display of talent at world juniors. Coached by Patrick Roy, so familiarity with organization.

mono might be an issue but i'd say still worth a try

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