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06-08-2012, 10:19 AM
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2 weeks to go wishlist for the Habs:

#3
Nail Yakupov
Alex Galchenyuk
Filip Forsberg

#33 (32nd overall if NJ forfeit)
Stefan Matteau
Tim Bozon
Michael Matheson
Henrik Samuelsson
Mark Jankowski

#51 (50 overall)
Henrik Samuelsson
Mark Jankowski
Martin Frk
Nicolas Kerdiles
Lukas Sutter

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Swapping picks with Toronto is a disaster.

Do not do it.

I will kick Bergevin in the nuts.

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If Columbus wants Forsberg, I could see them swapping with the Leafs for the #5 pick because he will probably be available at #5.

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Swapping picks with Toronto is a disaster.

Do not do it.

I will kick Bergevin in the nuts.
Besides Nazem Kadri is the 2nd coming of Bruce Boudreau lifetime AHLer.

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If Columbus wants Forsberg, I could see them swapping with the Leafs for the #5 pick because he will probably be available at #5.
I don't think the habs' target at #3 is Grigorenko so that leaves Forsberg or Teravainen. Too much of a risk for them, unless they want some top-10 dman not named Murray.

Edit: Leafs would pick Gally.. at #2


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From the people that said I know nothing about the draft...

"Galchenyuk, is he Russian?"
"Yup. Born and raised there."
"Oh nevermind then. I hope they take Forsberg."
"Forsberg is a centre, right?"
"Let me check... Oh he's a winger and Galchenyuk is a centre..."
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I want to bang my head on the desk.

From the people that said I know nothing about the draft...

"Galchenyuk, is he Russian?"
"Yup. Born and raised there."
"Oh nevermind then. I hope they take Forsberg."
"Forsberg is a centre, right?"
"Let me check... Oh he's a winger and Galchenyuk is a centre..."
"Oh..."

What is this?

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Trade down for Teräväinen and pick an habs fan Barkov at the next season. These guys has already some chemistry. Teräväinen could be next jussi jokinen at worst if he makes into NHL, he could be next filppula but has potential to be superstar like Giroux. Teräväinen plays like Giroux IMO but less physically. Barkov is big monster was nearly 6'2 and 205 lbs at beginning of this season and he was just turned 16. Barkov might be 6'4 +220lbs at the 2013 draft being youngest top prospect for that draft. I would say that Barkov is at worst Mikko Koivu/Jordan Staal can't see his potential as high as Teräväinen but Barkov plays similar to Datsyuk and uses body like Mikko Koivu. Future selke calibre of player for sure. Was best two-way foward for his FEL team at 16 year old. Barkov was better than Galchenyuk when i watched them at Ivan Hlinka. Gally was 17 and Barkov 15 and it was notable gap. But 2013 draft includes as good talents in MacKinnon and Jones. But i hope that Barkov get's drafted by Habs because he is habs fan and it would be cool to see habs on top again.

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Swapping picks with Toronto is a disaster.

Do not do it.

I will kick Bergevin in the nuts.
You worry too much.

Lupul - Galchenyuk - Kessel just reminds me of a worse version of Roberts - Sundin - Mogilny. It won't mean much.

Pick Teravainen 5th, Bozon 32nd, Jankowski 35th. That will be our Damphousse, Bellows and Muller. Boom.

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If Columbus wants Forsberg, I could see them swapping with the Leafs for the #5 pick because he will probably be available at #5.
I don't know about that. I could see Forsberg being a good fit for the Leafs, Habs or Isles.

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Had a really vivid dream last night that the habs drafted reinhart at #3 last night

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What about switching picks with Toronto if Murray and Yakopov are selected top 2 and that Galchenyuk isnt necessary our guy, for the possibility to switch 1st pick next year? Leafs are probably going to end at the bottom of the standing again next year while the Habs have way more potential to make the playoffs with some adjustments in the off season.. We could have a shot at Seth Jones, MacKinnon and all.. For the upcoming draft, 2 of Grigorenko Forsberg and Taravainen would still be on the board, so thats a very interesting gambling to do no? Making Brian Burke looks like an idiot again would be priceless, unless Galchenyuk really is the one we have to draft at 3..

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Had a really vivid dream last night that the habs drafted reinhart at #3 last night
Lol this board would explode and WTK would turn Halifax into a war zone.

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Had a really vivid dream last night that the habs drafted reinhart at #3 last night
That's Sam Rinehart the forward the Habs trade for Calgary's first round pick hooorah!

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Lol this board would explode and WTK would turn Halifax into a war zone.
I know lol. I woke up right after Timmins made the announcement. Woke up sweating like crazy.

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That's called a Nightmare.

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I have a good feeling about Yakupov.

Edmonton would be idiotic not to draft a defenceman. Murray would be a great choice. Columbus is ****-scared of Russians and Forsberg/Galchenyuk are really good... I'd say there are good chances we end up with Yakupov... unless Edmonton trades their pick to TO for Schenn, 1st + because they're ok with other d-men in the draft (meaning Murray ends up with NYI).

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Lol this board would explode and WTK would turn Halifax into a war zone.
Yes. If they go full ****** and pick a D-man, it better not be Reinhart. I can live with Dumba or Rielly, even Murray to an extent. Reinhart would make me slaughter innocents.

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You worry too much.

Lupul - Galchenyuk - Kessel just reminds me of a worse version of Roberts - Sundin - Mogilny. It won't mean much.

Pick Teravainen 5th, Bozon 32nd, Jankowski 35th. That will be our Damphousse, Bellows and Muller. Boom.
I dont want our rival to get the piece weve been missing for years. Especially by trading it TO them. Has the potential to go bad, really, really bad. Take Galchenyuk, watch Burke rage, profit.

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Yes. If they go full ****** and pick a D-man, it better not be Reinhart. I can live with Dumba or Rielly, even Murray to an extent. Reinhart would make me slaughter innocents.



I dont want our rival to get the piece weve been missing for years. Especially by trading it TO them. Has the potential to go bad, really, really bad. Take Galchenyuk, watch Burke rage, profit.
"I'd kill everyone in this room. Even the children. ESPECIALLY the children"

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Had a really vivid dream last night that the habs drafted reinhart at #3 last night
On a random side note.. i had a dream last night that Pittsburgh wins the cup next year... Continue your discussion...

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I am going something real obvious here yet, I just feel like I have to say it. The quality of this draft WILL NOT be determined by our first pick in this first round. But the remainder of the next 3 picks. There is a possibility to have 3 VERY GOOD prospects here in the next 2 rounds. Good enough so that there's a very good chance that our 4 picks ends up being top 10 in our prospect pool rankings. Only Beaulieu, Tinordi, Gallagher, Bournival and Kristo might keep their position. Obviously, depending on who we will pick. But that will be what will determine our weekend. Whatever guy we pick, from Gally, to Grigo, to Forsberg, to Murray, we will get a great player. No matter what people say, each are qualified hockey player AND a need no matter how people try to turn this as far as Murray is concerned (looking at you WTK...). If Murray is picked, he ends up AUTOMATICALLY #1 in our entire prospect pool. He obvioulsy then becomes #1 in D's and when you look at it, he clearly becomes our most COMPLETE prospect d-man. People who will try to convince you that this is not a need are wrong. But then....do we have more PRESSING needs.....surely. This talented centerman we are looking for would be more welcome. Just saying that whoever is there will be a top of our pool. But then the reaa work begins and this is where Timmins needs to work his magic. An IMPORTANT draft to say the least. Just like next year if we keep all those picks around.

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Yes. If they go full ****** and pick a D-man, it better not be Reinhart. I can live with Dumba or Rielly, even Murray to an extent. Reinhart would make me slaughter innocents.
I TOTALLY agree with you as far as Reinhart is concerned. As far as the usual top 10, Reinhart is actually my only ND at the spot we pick. Makes no sense to go with him based on the fact that I don't see an offensive game being translated by him in the bigs, while everything can be work on, a guy with his stature had to be way more assertive than he was and play way more physical than he did. You do wonder that if it's impose on him and it's not really his personnallity, will he stop doing it at some point. And then, feet work HAS to be a concern, though not something he won't improve. So while it,s all about projecting, I still can project a lot more with way more candidate than him.

I'd be REALLY dissapointed if it's Reinhart to say the least. I won't believe it especially since there will be way more interesting players. There are Reinhart's elsewhere in the draft. But I have 10 guys ahead of him. I even have Maatta ahead of him. And if I don't contain myself, I could be tempted in having Koekkoek and Finn ahead of him.....So for me Reinhart would be our Hickey.....though chances are Reinhart DOES reach the league soon....but should not achieve a top role in a team.

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I am going something real obvious here yet, I just feel like I have to say it. The quality of this draft WILL NOT be determined by our first pick in this first round. But the remainder of the next 3 picks. There is a possibility to have 3 VERY GOOD prospects here in the next 2 rounds. Good enough so that there's a very good chance that our 4 picks ends up being top 10 in our prospect pool rankings. Only Beaulieu, Tinordi, Gallagher, Bournival and Kristo might keep their position. Obviously, depending on who we will pick. But that will be what will determine our weekend. Whatever guy we pick, from Gally, to Grigo, to Forsberg, to Murray, we will get a great player. No matter what people say, each are qualified hockey player AND a need no matter how people try to turn this as far as Murray is concerned (looking at you WTK...). If Murray is picked, he ends up AUTOMATICALLY #1 in our entire prospect pool. He obvioulsy then becomes #1 in D's and when you look at it, he clearly becomes our most COMPLETE prospect d-man. People who will try to convince you that this is not a need are wrong. But then....do we have more PRESSING needs.....surely. This talented centerman we are looking for would be more welcome. Just saying that whoever is there will be a top of our pool. But then the reaa work begins and this is where Timmins needs to work his magic. An IMPORTANT draft to say the least. Just like next year if we keep all those picks around.
I agree 100%. We like to love our prospects, it's only normal. But in reality, the Habs are near the bottom in organisational rankings. There are needs everywhere. And while Tinordi and Beaulieu are very good prospects, they have their specific roles. Murray is an every situation kind of player, which the team does need.

I'll only be disappointed if they make a huge reach, like Rielly or Reinhart. I can't really live with those options at 3rd overall. If they trade down, fine.

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