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06-08-2012, 10:15 AM
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One thing I typically look for in the Belmont is a New York horse with a New York rider. Union Rags fits that criteria. Dullahan looks good and is on a rest, but he's run two 98s on the Beyer in a row. He's due for a slack.

I just don't see a horse not mentioned in the Dullahan/Union Rags/I'll Have Another group that really has a shot. Then again, this is the Belmont....

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06-08-2012, 10:25 AM
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http://twitter.com/PeteThamelNYT/sta...16575217037313
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RT @awfulannouncing: I'll Have Another officially out of the Belmont Stakes according to trainer Doug O'Neill on @dpshow.
BOOM. Bombshell.

I really hope this is not true. I really hope. Because why would you pull him now? A day away from history?

I'm shocked here.

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06-08-2012, 10:27 AM
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O'Neill said the horse had a "little problem with his left front leg." There's the "start of some tendinitis." Doesn't want to take a chance
There is also speculation that the horse has probably raced his last race.

http://twitter.com/PeteThamelNYT/sta...17935140417536

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Has I'll Have Another raced its last race?"If i had to wager.......yes." Via @dpshow. Great get for Dan Patrick.
This is very, very sad. For a horse to come this close and then get pulled a day before, because of this. Going to cry


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06-08-2012, 10:32 AM
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Well damn...I'll take Dullahan then

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06-08-2012, 10:35 AM
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ELMONT, N.Y. -- I'll Have Another will not run in Saturday's Belmont Stakes, trainer Doug O'Neill said Friday on the "Dan Patrick Show."

The New York Racing Association has called a 1:00pm ET news conference on the matter.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/horse...#ixzz1xDU8eAUv

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Although plans for Doug O’Neill to throw out the first pitch at the June 8 New York Mets-Yankees game were cancelled, the trainer of I’ll Have Another started off the day by throwing a curve to the large media horde that gathers each morning at Belmont Park.

The 3-year-old Flower Alley colt went to the track at 5:30 a.m. EDT to avoid traffic at Belmont Park's Barn 2 after the Belmont horses work between 8:30-8:45 a.m. He jogged a half-mile, then galloped one mile in company with Lava Man.

“It’s been very hectic the last few days, so we thought we would take him out when it’s quieter,” O’Neill said. “The detention barn setup with all 12 of the horses going out at the same time has been a little bit hectic. The simple thing of just trying to find a place to bathe your horse has been kind of congested. We thought we would come out early, and it would be quieter. Hopefully he will be back resting in his stall when 8:30 rolls around and a lot of the hectic activity starts. We want to get him in the quietest frame of mind leading up to the biggest race of his life.”
Read more on BloodHorse.com: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...#ixzz1xDUNCZF3

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06-08-2012, 10:39 AM
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I'm so depressed right now. I thought this was the year.

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06-08-2012, 10:44 AM
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The ghosts of Belmonts past.

It was just a few minutes ago where I said we expect the unexpected but this is shocking. This could surpass Spectacular Bid in terms of bewildering.


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06-08-2012, 10:46 AM
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Despite all the other cool sports going on tomorrow (Giants Game, Hockey, Basketball, A's Game), I'm shocked and disappointed right now. Would have been nice to have another Triple Crown winner.

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06-08-2012, 10:50 AM
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Man up ix! lol

I honestly just didn't think he was going to win anyway. I was rooting for it but something just told me he wasn't going to win. Belmont is the hardest of them to win. He was somewhat lucky to win The Preakness.

Thats a damn shame though.

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06-08-2012, 10:55 AM
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Looks like breeding is the next step:


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There will be no Triple Crown winner.

In a shocking development Friday morning, trainer Doug O'Neill announced on the Dan Patrick show that I'll Have Another, the 3-year-old colt going for the first Triple Crown sweep since 1978, has been scratched from Saturday's Belmont Stakes with a front leg injury.

"I'll Have Another is officially out of the Belmont," O'Neill said on the program. "I don't want to take a chance with it."

"I feel terrible about it," O'Neill said outside the detention barn late Friday morning. The colt suffered tendinitis in his left front leg earlier in the morning, an injury that could possibly end his racing career. A press conference is scheduled for 1 p.m.

I'll Have Another went to the track Friday morning for his finally workout at 5:30 to avoid the congestion caused by the new state mandated detention barn. On Wednesday, he spent a restful night in the new state-mandated detention barn, appearing no worse for wear Thursday morning.

"He's settled right in, like we thought he would," O'Neill said Thursday. "We had a really good day of training today. I thought he showed good energy and he cooled out really well. So we are very happy with where we are here two days out."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...#ixzz1xDcvvB9K


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06-08-2012, 11:01 AM
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Damn I thought he was going to do it this year

There goes my vbookie bet

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06-08-2012, 11:04 AM
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... and likely done for good. That's too bad.

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06-08-2012, 11:18 AM
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if the horse isn't right they made the right decision.

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06-08-2012, 11:20 AM
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Good on them for not pushing it. Horse injuries are so damn finicky.

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06-08-2012, 12:24 PM
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Terrible news

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06-08-2012, 12:27 PM
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This all smells funny.

O'Neil said in the press conference that 'he could have run".
Yet they've already made the decision to retire him?????
Right now, that does not make sense to me.

It's just another shadow over racing.
Not the 1st, and certainly not the last.

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06-08-2012, 01:45 PM
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This was a shocker. Another year without a triple crown. Hopefully the horse is ok.

I expect Union Rags or Dullahan's odds to skyrocket to the point where its not even worth betting them other than in exactas and tris.

I'll probably better One of Dullahan/Union Rags, My Adonis and Payner. Maybe throw a few dollars on a long shot.

Then I'll bet an exacta with the two favorites and a trifecta with the two favorites and My Adonis.

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06-08-2012, 01:58 PM
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there doesn't seem to be much information on this other than "the start of tendinitis". It seems really strange to me that having been healthy during the entire lead up and just routine training the horse is suddenly retired the day before the race. I'd hate for something sinister to be happening.

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06-08-2012, 04:30 PM
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And once again, the Belmont becomes the ugly stepsister to the other two races. I cant entirely blame them for pulling the plug though, last thing you want is another Barbaro situation where you run, break the leg, and the horse lives a hellish life because of it.

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06-08-2012, 05:05 PM
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This all smells funny.

O'Neil said in the press conference that 'he could have run".
Yet they've already made the decision to retire him?????
Right now, that does not make sense to me.

It's just another shadow over racing.
Not the 1st, and certainly not the last.
They didn't want to be Eight Belles. Or Big Brown for that matter.

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06-08-2012, 08:46 PM
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FULL BELMONT FIELD

1. STREET LIFE 8-1

2. UNSTOPPABLE U 20-1

3. UNION RAGS 3-1

4. ATIGUN `15-1

5. DULLAHAN 9-5

6. RAVELO'S BOY 30-1

7. FIVE SIXTEEN 30-1

8. GUYANA STAR DWEEJ 30-1

9. PAYNTER 7-2

10. OPTIMIZER 15-1

11. I' LL HAVE ANOTHER SCR

12. MY ADONIS 15-1
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/postti...#ixzz1xFtO38AR

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06-08-2012, 11:34 PM
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When I saw it I was pretty damned shocked. Crazy how we were just talking about how much more fragile the horses seem these days. But like others, glad they pulled him instead of taking that chance, though you earn a lot more $ by breeding him than euthanizing him on the track.

Sucks for those at Belmont and those around Bodemeister must think they're kinda cursed too. You get sooo close, you probably have a chance if it isn't for I'll Have Another and then he's out in the final race that Bode... won't even be in.

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06-09-2012, 12:04 AM
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If the favored horse is out now, how does this affect betting payouts for those betting on other horses?
i.e. Exactas, To Place etc.

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06-09-2012, 04:36 AM
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I'm a terrible horse racing fan. I just want to see a triple crown winner in my life time. Since I started caring triple crown hopefuls are now 0-5. Too bad Barbaro killed himself at the Preakness. He easily would have won.

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06-09-2012, 08:57 AM
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If the favored horse is out now, how does this affect betting payouts for those betting on other horses?
i.e. Exactas, To Place etc.
It depends when the wager was made. If you got Dullahan earlier in the week at 6:1 odds, then he becomes the favorite at 2:1 (for example) and eventually wins, you would get paid based on the 6:1 bet. If you bet Dullahan at 2:1, that is how the bettor would get paid if that entry wins. If you played a straight win or an exacta of I'll Have Another (prior to the scratch) with another horse, you'd normally get a refund once the race goes official.

However, there are defined rules in place that vary by state and can get complicated for such exotics as Pick 3. Each state that allows parimutuel betting has a state agency that overlooks the gaming aspect.

In Las Vegas, I made a minor wager through a "Futures" bet which was months prior to the Derby and the odds were inflated. It was a win bet on War Pass at very high odds (I did the same thing the prior year with Street Sense, based on the Breeders Cup Juvenile, and won the Derby with higher odds). He was eventually among the Derby favorites at one point and the odds were drastically reduced as the Derby got closer; however, he was scratched due to an injury a few days prior to the race -- no refund based on Nevada gaming rules.


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