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06-09-2012, 05:27 PM
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The Ducks can't afford him. And what happens if he walks in two years?

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06-09-2012, 05:29 PM
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Smid + Gagner?
Our defense goes from bad to horriawful.

We might as well start talking about the 2013 lottery pick right now...losing Smid would be VERY bad for our team going forward.

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06-09-2012, 05:30 PM
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Our defense goes from bad to horriawful.

We might as well start talking about the 2013 lottery pick right now...losing Smid would be VERY bad for our team going forward.
We lose Smid,but we can also draft Morgan Rielly, who I think will be better than Smid long term.

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06-09-2012, 05:31 PM
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Burke wouldn't do MacArthur for a 1st, no way he trades Phaneuf for a draft pick.

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Phaneuf is not worth a 6th overall pick and with Getzlaf and Perry heading to UFA they cant afford to take an overapid D man like Phaneuf.

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06-09-2012, 05:33 PM
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Our defense goes from bad to horriawful.

We might as well start talking about the 2013 lottery pick right now...losing Smid would be VERY bad for our team going forward.
I agree, but that's probably what it would take outside of dynamic 3 guys. Smid is really underrated and he puts his heart on the sleeve when he is playing but u have to give to get.

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06-09-2012, 05:33 PM
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We lose Smid,but we can also draft Morgan Rielly, who I think will be better than Smid long term.
Rielly does have more potential, but like a poster above said, losing Smid would be really bad for the Oilers. There's no one we could find in the organization (or likely FA as well) that could come close to replacing him. We have to avoid trading players like Smid for futures, or we're going to be in a never-ending rebuild.

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06-09-2012, 05:34 PM
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Gagner,MPS,Omark


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What do you attribute to MPS decline in production?

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That dude is on a horrible contract. I'd consider Lubo for Phaneuf though.

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We should keep our 6th overall and draft Faksa. Solves our future 2nd line center problem with a potential Kesler-like two-way player. And from the reports it seems as he can slot directly into a bottom6 role the coming season.

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That dude is on a horrible contract. I'd consider Lubo for Phaneuf though.
Wouldn't go as far as saying horrible, he is prolly overpaid by like a mil.

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If the Penguins are uncertain about Staal's future in Pittsburgh , the 6th overall and JStaal would be nice centerpieces in a deal that could immediately help the Ducks. At the same time, it would severely cripple Penguins, basically guaranteeing no Stanley Cup for next year.

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What do you attribute to MPS decline in production?
A combination of being snake-bitten and being paired with inferior linemates. No doubt he went through a slump to start the season, but he wasn't playing bad. When he went to the AHL, he played much better and was one of the biggest contributors in the Barons' playoff run. He's only 21 still, so he has plenty of time to figure out the offensive part of his game still.

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If the Penguins are uncertain about Staal's future in Pittsburgh , the 6th overall and JStaal would be nice centerpieces in a deal that could immediately help the Ducks. At the same time, it would severely cripple Penguins, basically guaranteeing no Stanley Cup for next year.
I think this would interest the Ducks a ton, Staal would be a perfect 2nd line C behind Getz.

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We should keep our 6th overall and draft Faksa. Solves our future 2nd line center problem with a potential Kesler-like two-way player. And from the reports it seems as he can slot directly into a bottom6 role the coming season.
Is Faska that much better than Holland? We also have Rakell in the pipelines.

The Ducks could be a very dangerous team next season if they add a #2 center, and a few role players.

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If the Penguins are uncertain about Staal's future in Pittsburgh , the 6th overall and JStaal would be nice centerpieces in a deal that could immediately help the Ducks. At the same time, it would severely cripple Penguins, basically guaranteeing no Stanley Cup for next year.
Perfect trade if Staal wouldn't be an UFA next season.

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That dude is on a horrible contract. I'd consider Lubo for Phaneuf though.
He's being paid market value for a player his age, production and history. $6.5 mil this year, $5.5 mil next year, isn't bad for a big, physical 40-45 point defenseman who can play in any situation and is only 27 years old. Your surely can't believe that Toronto would have any interest in trading Phaneuf for a nine years older Visnovsky?

As for the proposal, I'd say yes purely based on value. Even though the need for a #2 center is bigger at this point. Soon the Ducks will be without Visnovsky and Lydman, while Beauchemin could start declining in a couple of years. Phaneuf, Fowler, Vatanen and Sbisa would be a good core to build around for the future. Two, big imposing guys and two good skating PMD's.


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We should keep our 6th overall and draft Faksa. Solves our future 2nd line center problem with a potential Kesler-like two-way player. And from the reports it seems as he can slot directly into a bottom6 role the coming season.
From what I have read Faska is YEARS away from stepping into the NHL. So there are a lot better options this year at 6th.

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Rielly does have more potential, but like a poster above said, losing Smid would be really bad for the Oilers. There's no one we could find in the organization (or likely FA as well) that could come close to replacing him. We have to avoid trading players like Smid for futures, or we're going to be in a never-ending rebuild.
The Oilers should be able to sign a shutdown defenceman through free agency.



Bryan Allen
Shane O Brien
Brad Stuart
Milan Jurcina
John Scott
Matt Carkner
Barret Jackman

Anyone of these defenceman can replace Smid.

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Your surely can't believe that Toronto would have any interest in trading Phaneuf for a nine years older Visnovsky?

As for the proposal, I'd say yes purely based on value. However, defense isn't the biggest need at this time. I'd rather get a good #2 center.
I really couldn't care less about what Toronto wants Firstly they fleeced us in that Beauchemin trade and secondly, I'm also a Habs Fan.

And how the value is good I can't understand. Phaneuf is a liabilty on the blueline and slow as hell. No thanks. Rather have Lydman.

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Burke's goal is to make the playoffs next season.

Why would he make this deal?

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A combination of being snake-bitten and being paired with inferior linemates. No doubt he went through a slump to start the season, but he wasn't playing bad. When he went to the AHL, he played much better and was one of the biggest contributors in the Barons' playoff run. He's only 21 still, so he has plenty of time to figure out the offensive part of his game still.
Gagner and MPS are two appealing pieces, IMO. Both players are very young and they shore up some of our needs.

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I don't think Phaneuf is worth a top 10 pick.

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I really couldn't care less about what Toronto wants Firstly they fleeced us in that Beauchemin trade and secondly, I'm also a Habs Fan.

And how the value is good I can't understand. Phaneuf is a liabilty on the blueline and slow as hell. No thanks. Rather have Lydman.
How can you honestly say that? Phaneuf is a good #1-2 defenseman, but his contract would be difficult to accommodate with Getzlaf and Perry UFA next season.

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I agree, but that's probably what it would take outside of dynamic 3 guys. Smid is really underrated and he puts his heart on the sleeve when he is playing but u have to give to get.
This is definitely true, I just think I'd rather trade from our forward depth and add to our D instead of swapping defensemen in and out.

It likely means we can't get to number 6, but there's a good chance a dman we like falls out of the top 10, happens seemingly evert year, so I would try to get to 12-15 instead.

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