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Crosby Signing a 10-Year Deal Worth $90 Million?

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06-10-2012, 02:36 AM
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Still asking for 9M a year... which is 13% of the cap. The team has to sign 20 players. I wonder why there hasn't been a smart player who decided to sign for 1M (honestly, you won't starve with 1M/year... I probably wont even get 1M in my whole life) so his team has a lot of room to deal with. Imagine if 2-3 star players did that and played together, holy crap. But they would rather have a bigger house, a better car, etc. It's not about Crosby, I've said it about many players getting big contracts.
If your entire roster signed $1M per year contracts, you'd be well under the floor.

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06-10-2012, 02:38 AM
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The mention of $14 million confuses me. I was under the impression that $10 million was set as the yearly salary limit a few years ago.
The maximum salary a player can receive is contingent on a percentage of overall salary cap. What that means is that every time the cap goes up or down, the percentage also increases or decreases.

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Yes. No player may be eligible to contract for or receive in excess of 20% of the Club's upper limit in total annual compensation (NHL salary plus signing, roster, reporting and all performance bonuses). In 2005-06, no player will be permitted to contract for total compensation in excess of $7.8 million in any year of his contract.
Assume the salary cap next year is 70.3 (as rumours have stated), 20% of the cap is 14.06 million dollars, which means that 14.06 million accounts for the maximum Sidney Crosby could get next year.

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06-10-2012, 04:13 AM
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Sounds about right, no?
Take a look at the clowns that make similar cheddar in the league - Sid's a pimp compared to most of the rest.

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06-10-2012, 04:18 AM
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No doubt they're just gonna give Sid a blank check. Hope he helps the Pens organization by taking less than the league max.

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06-10-2012, 09:27 AM
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If we sign Sid for 9. Then Malkin wont take anymore than 9. So we only add 600k to the cap. How does this end it for Staal? With an increase of 6 million in the cap this year, If we give Staal 6 million per, we would still have 4 million. Then we trade Martin. This ends it for Martin not Staal.

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06-10-2012, 10:25 AM
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If we sign Sid for 9. Then Malkin wont take anymore than 9. So we only add 600k to the cap. How does this end it for Staal? With an increase of 6 million in the cap this year, If we give Staal 6 million per, we would still have 4 million. Then we trade Martin. This ends it for Martin not Staal.
But don't you want Staal on your leafs team?

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06-10-2012, 11:56 AM
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haven't we learned already paper champs almost never win. The 2011 heat, 2011 eagles, 2009 red wings, 2008 rangers (after drury and gomez signed) all lost after everyone picked them to win it all in the preseason. The penguins would be even better with parise but to crown them conference champs just because of that would be ridiculous. They'd still have a lot of questions on defense and in goal.
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06-10-2012, 12:19 PM
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A 10 year deal? That's insane. Recurring concussion problems don't just go away. Crosby's had a target on his back from Day 1 in this league, and he's not particularly well-liked. He's shown that he's willing to take a paycut, and probably wants to spend his entire career with one team, so "locking him up" shouldn't be a huge concern. A $9M center sitting on the sidelines for half a season should be. Especially if/when Staal is dealt.

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06-10-2012, 12:22 PM
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I wonder if Malkin would sign a similar contract.

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06-10-2012, 12:23 PM
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But don't you want Staal on your leafs team?
I'd rather have him on Pittsburgh so we have the three center stack. And the Leafs are a fail franchise.

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06-10-2012, 12:39 PM
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10 years for someone whose ability to play even one season is still sketchy is one hell of a leap if you ask me. If this is true then good luck to him, since you never want to see someone's career ended by injury, but I don't see it working out for them.
Makes sense for the Penguins, may not make sense for their owner but I'm sure there'll be some sort of insurance policy involved.

PS, no single player is worth ~20% ($14M) of the cap in a league required to dress at least 19 players. Good deal for the Pens.

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06-10-2012, 12:45 PM
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A 10 year deal? That's insane. Recurring concussion problems don't just go away. Crosby's had a target on his back from Day 1 in this league, and he's not particularly well-liked. He's shown that he's willing to take a paycut, and probably wants to spend his entire career with one team, so "locking him up" shouldn't be a huge concern. A $9M center sitting on the sidelines for half a season should be. Especially if/when Staal is dealt.
Just ask Patrice Bergeron.

Crosby is so valuable that getting him signed long-term to a cap-friendly deal would be worth the risk 10/10 times.

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06-10-2012, 12:52 PM
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I wonder why there hasn't been a smart player who decided to sign for 1M (honestly, you won't starve with 1M/year... I probably wont even get 1M in my whole life) so his team has a lot of room to deal with. Imagine if 2-3 star players did that and played together, holy crap.
See: 03-04 Avalanche

Tanguay - Forsberg - Hejduk
Kariya - Sakic - Selanne

Doesn't always work out the way you may think.

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Any quotes, video, or audio on this? I'd like to hear exactly what was said instead of just typing something they heard on TV.

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If we sign Sid for 9. Then Malkin wont take anymore than 9. So we only add 600k to the cap. How does this end it for Staal? With an increase of 6 million in the cap this year, If we give Staal 6 million per, we would still have 4 million. Then we trade Martin. This ends it for Martin not Staal.
Are you sure about that?

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06-10-2012, 01:05 PM
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If we sign Sid for 9. Then Malkin wont take anymore than 9. So we only add 600k to the cap. How does this end it for Staal? With an increase of 6 million in the cap this year, If we give Staal 6 million per, we would still have 4 million. Then we trade Martin. This ends it for Martin not Staal.
Except 29 other teams know Martin has little to no value at all due to his contract, so how are you going to trade him off so easily?

And it's not just about the dollar sign, what if Jordan Staal actually wants his role to be expanded instead of being a 3C since his beginning? After all, he definitely has the potential to be a top-6 on many teams.

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He's not going anywhere else. I would consider a short term deal, given his injury concerns.

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See: 03-04 Avalanche

Tanguay - Forsberg - Hejduk
Kariya - Sakic - Selanne

Doesn't always work out the way you may think.
Yeah that's a pretty good lineup I guess

But seriously...

- 3 hall of famers (Sakic, Selanne, Forsberg)
- 1 borderline hall of famer (Kariya. I, personally, would have him in but I don't know if he actually will make it. Would be a clear hofer if it wasn't for injuries)
- Hejduk, coming off a 50 goal 98 point, 2nd team all-star season
- Tanguay, who had the 2nd highest ppg ratio that season for players playing 50+ games

wow

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if we get malkin and crosby to go to 9 million, combined that's a 600k salary raise between the 2 of them.

i think staal would max out at 6 million, but i think he takes 5.5 or even 5.

MAF probably wont get much of a raise when his contract expires, but ill say 6 million for argument sakes.

orpik's 3.75 salary will come down once his deal expires.

niskanen should be resigned at 2-2.5 mil

letang i think could be on his way out once his contract expires but i could see him go to 5-6 million.

overall the penguins salary situation isnt terrible. obviously martin probably needs to go because of his 5 million, but there is no reason to think that the penguins HAVE to trade someone.

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if we get malkin and crosby to go to 9 million, combined that's a 600k salary raise between the 2 of them.

i think staal would max out at 6 million, but i think he takes 5.5 or even 5.

MAF probably wont get much of a raise when his contract expires, but ill say 6 million for argument sakes.

orpik's 3.75 salary will come down once his deal expires.

niskanen should be resigned at 2-2.5 mil

letang i think could be on his way out once his contract expires but i could see him go to 5-6 million.

overall the penguins salary situation isnt terrible. obviously martin probably needs to go because of his 5 million, but there is no reason to think that the penguins HAVE to trade someone.
Orpik's salary won't go down...loads of teams would love to add a defender like him and will pay top dollar to add him into the fold. Letang would be going for fair market price for 40-50 point d-men...if you let him go you lose an offensive threat from the defense.

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Orpik's salary won't go down...loads of teams would love to add a defender like him and will pay top dollar to add him into the fold. Letang would be going for fair market price for 40-50 point d-men...if you let him go you lose an offensive threat from the defense.
Yeah I'd expect Brooks' salary to increase a little bit. Hopefully he stays, would be nice to see him finish his career here.

As for Letang, there's no way Shero lets him go. He's just too good.

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Because the NHLPA would lose their minds if star players tried to sign contracts that low.
Why the hell would they care? Just means more HRR to pass around to the other 700-odd players.

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Sid for 9 million? Hell yes.

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keep in mind that the year afterthat Letang salary will probably/could jump from 3.5mil to 6+mil

and Martin does have a NTC too...so even if convinced to be able to trade him will be a limited amount of teams.


still dont think Crosby signs for 10 mil or more...he realizes the need to fill out roster

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Why the hell would they care? Just means more HRR to pass around to the other 700-odd players.
It does set a bit of a de facto individual salary cap limit.

How can Stamkos ask for $10 million when Crosby gets $9?

The PA is a big believer in the "rising tide lifts all boats" theory.

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Nobody has ever explained to me the "risk" in signing an injury prone player to a 10 year contract.


If he gets hurt, you get the cap space back.

If he retires, the contract comes off the books.


I dont see the problem. If the Pens can get him to commit the rest of his career to Pittsburgh, they do it.

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