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10-03-2011, 03:30 PM
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Weren't you one of the ones that absolutley hated Hamrlik?


Are we missing Hamrlik?

Right now...but we probably will. It's not so much that we're missing Hamrlik per-se, but we haven't replaced what he brought to the team, this can be a problem down the line. Shot-blocking, minute-eating, defensively responsible top 4 d-man. This is the biggest hole this team is missing right now, I hope it gets filled at some point.
In short, we are missing Hamrlik.

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10-03-2011, 04:06 PM
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In short, we are missing Hamrlik.
Yes, Hamrlik or a Hamrlik type. It's not like the management didn't agree since they offered him a contract. They wanted one year, he wanted two.

Would you have given him the 2nd year?

They still haven't replaced him and imo it should be their biggest priority.

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10-03-2011, 05:49 PM
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Yes, Hamrlik or a Hamrlik type. It's not like the management didn't agree since they offered him a contract. They wanted one year, he wanted two.

Would you have given him the 2nd year?

They still haven't replaced him and imo it should be their biggest priority.
I agree again, we're on a roll. I think maybe PG looked at it and figured Markov would replace the loss of Hammer, not sure I would of took that gamble, but I can see this as possible reason for not doing so.

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PG went out on a limb this year.

He chose not to try to retain the players who played and played consistently last year (Hamrlik, Wisniewski). If things don't turn out he will be culpable. If we don't make the play-offs he should be fired or resign (not that I expect that to happen). It's just way to easy to be critical of the guy considering his choices.
So accurate. I would have liked to have seen Gauthier's face when he was told Markov wasn't ready to start the season. And then I would have liked to have seen Martin's face after Gauthier told him the news of Markov and knowing the dumb GM let his workhorse walk. LOL

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06-10-2012, 10:33 AM
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no I don't miss him. i feel he can be replaced but wasn't. Last year, the lack of defensive performance due mainly to lack of experience is the reason behind people missing him. But there's a some better vet D(acquirable) in hammer's price range who are better and can do his job here.

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06-10-2012, 10:55 AM
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no I don't miss him. i feel he can be replaced but wasn't. Last year, the lack of defensive performance due mainly to lack of experience is the reason behind people missing him. But there's a some better vet D(acquirable) in hammer's price range who are better and can do his job here.
So you agree his loss left a hole. Whether you miss the player himself is irrelevant. We didn't replace him, so we had a gaping hole.

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So accurate. I would have liked to have seen Gauthier's face when he was told Markov wasn't ready to start the season. And then I would have liked to have seen Martin's face after Gauthier told him the news of Markov and knowing the dumb GM let his workhorse walk. LOL
He didn't "let him walk", he offered him a 1 year contract extension with good money, Hamrlik wanted 2 years, which, as we saw with Spacek was not a good gamble for a 35+ contract.


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To correct the OP

We are missing the presence of "a guy like" Hamrlik

there, fixed!

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We are missing the presence of "a guy like" Hamrlik

there, fixed!
We missed the Hamrlik of 4 or 5 years ago, not the 11-12 version of Hamrlik that struggled in Washington.

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In short, we are missing Hamrlik.
I think, in short, we're missing a guy that would provide us with what Hamrlik used to bring, is more accurate.

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So, what kind of veteran #3-5 D-man could eat 20-22 minutes a game that costs about $2-3M per year to get?

But, perhaps Hammer can become an assistant coach here when he retires as a player.

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No, it was time to cut the cord. His foot speed left alot be desired last year.
Yeah.....and they re-signed Gill.....he is so much faster!

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He didn't "let him walk", he offered him a 1 year contract extension with good money, Hamrlik wanted 2 years, which, as we saw with Spacek was not a good gamble for a 35+ contract.
What was the figure you speak of as "good money"? It doesn't really matter though. Hamrlik always said he wanted to retire in Montreal so Gauthier offered exactly what he wasn't looking for (one year) therefore he allowed him to walk.

Nonetheless the presence of the guy who's years were sandwiched by non-playoff years was missed. Gauthier screwed up and you just can't deny that.

I'll wait patiently to see if the same mistake is made by the new guy. I really hope another legitimate top four is at least sought after if Markov is still on the roster. Nevermind..........I forgot Gauthier acquired Kaberle.

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06-11-2012, 11:26 AM
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The train has left. Hamrlik would have no place in a rebuilding team.

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06-11-2012, 11:29 AM
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We are missing the presence of "a guy like" Hamrlik

there, fixed!
Guy Hamrlik....formerly know as Roman ?


Would i bring him back on the cheap ? yes i would, very cheap insurance policy....

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Guy Hamrlik....formerly know as Roman ?


Would i bring him back on the cheap ? yes i would, very cheap insurance policy....
The Habs aren't a contending team that lacks just a few finishing touches. I'd set aside ALL funds for future opportunities as well as for re-signing our outstanding free agents. Small expenditures on very old veterans add up.

There are no equivalents of a young Hamrlik on the upcoming UFA market, and if there were there would be a fierce bidding war. Remember, he was a top pick.


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And I'm not suggesting Hamrlik be brought back now. The spirit of the thread was way back when and the question has now been answered.

But I'll say it again - the Habs with Markov, Subban and Gorges on the roster need additionally another top 4 d-man ideally. They don't grow on trees and Gauthier just failed miserably in his assessment of the defence last summer. It's like he hadn't been around the team and did not know the injury history of Markov and the D in general.

And Hamrlik is no longer the old guy - he's now the oldest. LOL

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We miss what Hamrlik could bring to us, but we don't miss him. He isn't the player he was.

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And I'm not suggesting Hamrlik be brought back now. The spirit of the thread was way back when and the question has now been answered.

But I'll say it again - the Habs with Markov, Subban and Gorges on the roster need additionally another top 4 d-man ideally. They don't grow on trees and Gauthier just failed miserably in his assessment of the defence last summer. It's like he hadn't been around the team and did not know the injury history of Markov and the D in general.

And Hamrlik is no longer the old guy - he's now the oldest. LOL
So you necro-bumped an 8 month old thread for what? I told ya so's?

Hamrlik sucked this year and will suck even more next year. If anything is good about our terrible season it's that Emelin, Diaz and Subban got massive amounts of playing time.

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I was the OP of this, but I think my opening point was to have an insurance policy for the season since our D-squad was very young.

It could not be Hamrlik, it could have been anyone with some good experience.

By the way, the train has reallllllyyyyyyy passed.

Everyone could agree that the D is going to be very good in a year or two. And they'll be better this year.

End of thread: No one replaced Hamrlik and Gauthier shat the bed in replacing him.

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Not sure Hamrlik could bring a lot at his age but he would be a good stop gap at the right price.

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In short, Hamrlik couldn't replace Hamrlik.

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The OP seems to have overlooked that Markov will be available for the start of the season after a full training camp. He's younger than Hamrlik and can handle the mentoring while contributing more on the ice. Then there's Kaberle, who should report in better shape. So why occupy roster space with another Dman who'll soon be looking back on his 30s?

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