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06-11-2012, 03:25 PM
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Klefbom is ripped
Holy, not bad. Eh.

EDIT: Look at article date... almost 2 months ago?

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Holy, not bad. Eh.

EDIT: Look at article date... almost 2 months ago?
Sorry, Gregor posted it today. Should have looked at the date. My bad.

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06-11-2012, 03:29 PM
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This was from back in April. I am still hoping we get him signed soon, but I haven't heard any more news on the Klefbom front in a while.

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This was from back in April. I am still hoping we get him signed soon, but I haven't heard any more news on the Klefbom front in a while.
As I said my apologies, Gregor had the link in his article so I thought it was more current.

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06-11-2012, 03:40 PM
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As I said my apologies, Gregor had the link in his article so I thought it was more current.
NP. I was on another tab and by the time I replied to you, you had already clarified. I should have refreshed before I replied.

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Link works for me. Staying in SEL, sounds like he will be coming to camp.
Works now.

Still find it odd that he'd come here and miss part of the SEL season.

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06-11-2012, 03:45 PM
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I think plan for Klefbom would be one more year in the SEL before coming over.

Going back to the speculation of trading for the #6 for the moment, I wonder if management feels they have a better chance to land say Olli Jokinen than a top-4 guy. We saw Oduya get overpaid for being slightly better than Potter.

So what Tambo and co. might be thinking is trade for a package like:

#6 overall + Justin Schultz's rights + Toni Lydman
for
Gagner +

Lydman is old, but he played pretty well last season. He'd be a good addition for us in the 2nd pairing. Justin Schultz's rights have little value, but if we can convince him to sign with us, he adds a player who can help our D in the present and future. With #6, we take say a Reinhart (assuming Grigs + Galchenyuk + Murray are gone) and send him back to the WHL.

Of course we'd definitely have to add, but it really depends on how much. Like I said Schultz's rights have similar value to Barker's rights. Since Murray said he won't be a Duck, no organization will give up significant assets for a guy who is stated to reach free agency. Especially if they think he has a team in mind he'd like to play for.

The #6 overall hasn't exactly provided the all star ensemble of talent certain fans think it has. Gagner himself is a former #6 overall pick of the draft. Lydman is a decent but aging top-4 guy. He has one year on his deal left. Right off the bat we can take off the big 3, 1st overall, Petry, Smid and Schultz off the table. From there we just negotiate. It shouldn't cost us multiple top assets though.

If a trade like that is pulled off, in free agency you take a very heavy run at Olli Jokinen for 2 years at $4.1M/yr. Give him a nice raise but keep the contract flexible for us. Sign a guy like Latendresse for 2 years at 2M/yr.

Sign Schultz to the highest contract we can (caphit of around 3.25M/yr IIRC).

Hall(3.75)-RNH(3.75)-Eberle(1.15)
Latendresse(2)-Jokinen(4.1)-Yakupov(3.75)
Smyth(2.5)-Horcoff(5.5)-Hemsky(5)
4th line

Smid(2.25)-Petry(2.5)
Whitney(4)-Lydman(3)
Schultz(3.75)-Schultz(3.25)
Sutton(1.75)-Potter(0.800)

Dubnyk(2)
Khabibulin(3.75)

Total: $53.7 cap hit

Not saying I agree with it but it could be the thinking for management. Instead of getting into a bidding war with all the other NHL teams over the very few top-4 D-man on the market, trade for a decent one, and try fill the hole you created. Again not saying I like it, but it could be an option. Maybe they think Olli likes Alberta and wants to stay here. Who knows.

Again just speculating but it could be the though process here from management.

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06-11-2012, 03:49 PM
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The Score says Leafs shopping Luke Schenn to Edmonton.

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06-11-2012, 03:55 PM
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Schenn would be a great addition. Just not at the cost of the 1st overall pick.

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Schenn would be a great addition. Just not at the cost of the 1st overall pick.
Exactly, not sure what they'd want though.

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If the Toronto-based press finally realizes that Schenn isn't going to help you land the 1st then I think there could be something worked out to bring him to Edmonton. Personally I think he'd fit right in to our rebuild.

The Gagner for Schenn deal is the common one here, but if the whole Burke loving American-born forwards is true, perhaps something starting with Tyler Pitlick could be worked out. The Oilers have the cap space and a desperate need for a defenseman who can actually hurt someone with out being a total pylon.

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The only defencemen that got scored more than Schenn last season (at even strength per minute played) are Jurcina, Emelin and Byfuglien.

That's scary.

However, Potter was right behind Schenn and people seem to be fine with him.

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06-11-2012, 04:06 PM
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It's actually according to Eliotte Friedeman

10. There are rumblings that Toronto will offer Luke Schenn to Edmonton for a swap of first-rounders. No doubt Brian Burke would like to make a huge draft splash. He loves the big stage. And I do believe the Oilers like Schenn and have discussed his availability before. But I just can't see it happening for the first-overall selection. That's not enough. It'll be interesting, though, to see how many teams think Schenn will be better off outside Toronto. Sounds like the Maple Leafs are aware of that and, as a result, ask for a lot in return.

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8. There is a theory that if John Davidson lands in Columbus, Rick Nash may change his mind and want to stay. I'm not sure about that. I think Nash desires a fresh start.

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06-11-2012, 04:15 PM
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The only defencemen that got scored more than Schenn last season (at even strength per minute played) are Jurcina, Emelin and Byfuglien.

That's scary.

However, Potter was right behind Schenn and people seem to be fine with him.
I think that if he were paired with someone like Nick Schultz, who is defensibly responsible, you may be able counteract his defensive liability and fully utilize the physical game that he brings.

Toronto isn't exactly stacked with guys like that.

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I'm sure Burke is still having dreams about getting the #1 pick and getting both Yakupov and Galchenyuk (not that he'll likely be there at #5) and then somehow getting Rick Nash as well.

If the Oilers trade that #1 pick they sure as hell better get something a lot better than L. Schenn+

Until they Oilers call out Yakupov's name I dread what they might get in return for that #1 pick.

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What can Luke Schenn do that Colten Teubert can't?

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Schenn is also signed until 2016 with a $3.6 million cap hit.

Gross.

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Luke Schenn? Are you kidding me? Haha

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I'm sure Burke is still having dreams about getting the #1 pick and getting both Yakupov and Galchenyuk (not that he'll likely be there at #5) and then somehow getting Rick Nash as well.

If the Oilers trade that #1 pick they sure as hell better get something a lot better than L. Schenn+

Until they Oilers call out Yakupov's name I dread what they might get in return for that #1 pick.
Yes. Swapping picks for a defenseman and then taking another defensman seems redundant also.

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What can Luke Schenn do that Colten Teubert can't?
Play in the NHL.

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Some Leaf fans are saying they wouldn't trade Schenn + 5th for 1st, because it's a lateral move... haha.

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My god Kelly 3 years at 4mil per???

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Some Leaf fans are saying they wouldn't trade Schenn + 5th for 1st, because it's a lateral move... haha.
Do they know what lateral means?

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Some Leaf fans are saying they wouldn't trade Schenn + 5th for 1st, because it's a lateral move... haha.
That's Leaf fans for you. Wait until they find out that most of us would want them to add with Gardiner + 5th for 1st.

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