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06-11-2012, 04:38 PM
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You just proved my point by swapping the NYI and CBJ picks. Thanks.

Edmonton's gm is saying,it'll cost a significant amount to get their #1.I think they will hold onto it because no other team will meet their trade demands.
With rumors from Portzline,that Columbus wants Forsberg,the NYI sit patiently for Murray to fall to them at #4.

Montreal has been trying to acquire an elite cente for yrs.They can choose between Grigs and Galchenyuk.

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06-11-2012, 06:14 PM
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Backstrom
Carlson+Alzner
Ovi

All have more value than Tavares, who had one fantastic year.
that is hilarious
backstrom has played with ovy and has struggled the last 2 seasons because Ovy went knee to knee with every one and it took its toll on him, and JT is a far better leader than Ovy and is far better defensively and now is also better offensively

carlson and alzner are an amazing pair but unless they both are nominated for the norris in consecutive years there is no way they could get tavares in a trade

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that is hilarious
backstrom has played with ovy and has struggled the last 2 seasons because Ovy went knee to knee with every one and it took its toll on him, and JT is a far better leader than Ovy and is far better defensively and now is also better offensively

carlson and alzner are an amazing pair but unless they both are nominated for the norris in consecutive years there is no way they could get tavares in a trade
Carlson + Alzner for Tavares is a great trade for the Islanders if this was strictly an on-paper trade. There's not a chance in hell I would even think about moving Tavares, but Carlson + Alzner? Gimme gimme.

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06-11-2012, 07:04 PM
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Ovy went knee to knee with every one
One kneeing suspension in career.
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and JT is a far better leader than Ovy
Is that why Mark Streit is your captain?
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and now is also better offensively
Yeah... That's why he's never hit PPG ceiling and had 1 (one) season in which he had more points than Ovi.
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carlson and alzner are an amazing pair but unless they both are nominated for the norris in consecutive years there is no way they could get tavares in a trade
There's not a single player in the league who would return 2 "consecutive years Norris nominees". There's just no such player, he doesn't exist. Even if he does (maybe Malkin), his name is not John Tavares.
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Wait how is he trolling
I wasn't being serious. I was mocking the poster for calling CREW a troll because his opinion differed.

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I called him a troll for one phrase about Mike Green, for this one:
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Not a forward converted from defense.
This has nothing to do with opinion.

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The caps arent trading alzner or carlson. Enough of these threads

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One kneeing suspension in career.Is that why Mark Streit is your captain? Yeah... That's why he's never hit PPG ceiling and had 1 (one) season in which he had more points than Ovi.
There's not a single player in the league who would return 2 "consecutive years Norris nominees". There's just no such player, he doesn't exist. Even if he does (maybe Malkin), his name is not John Tavares.
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Just one because he was a super star

and is no longer

tavares, crosby, malkin, stamkos


a leader that will never break a sweat on a back check, never broken up a cycle, thrown a hit in the defensive zone to make a play and not out of frustration, and his work ethic is mediocre at best, both on an off the ice and you think ivy is a better leader than tavares who give it his all every single shift in every single zone no matter what the situation is?

ovy has the c because of name recognition and he doesn't see it as important, tavares has an a because the c would mean every thing to him and the coaching staff doesn't think he should carry that extra pressure

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Carlson + Alzner for Tavares is a great trade for the Islanders if this was strictly an on-paper trade. There's not a chance in hell I would even think about moving Tavares, but Carlson + Alzner? Gimme gimme.
and the isles top 2 centers would be who?


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06-11-2012, 10:59 PM
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Just one because he was a super star

and is no longer

tavares, crosby, malkin, stamkos

Tavares is not in the same league as those 3.

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and the isles top 2 centers would be who?
I said value wise. Why am I even arguing with you? You're username is grammatically incorrect.

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Tavares is not in the same league as those 3.
You're right, he's not. He might get there really soon, but he's not there now.

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Tavares better than Ovi? Get real. All this he back checks like crazy stuff is homerisim at its finest. This dude is a professional troll. The islanders are picking 4th and have been a lottery team for several years now. If your management knew how to draft or build a winning team you wouldnt need to poach the hottest young defensive tandem in the nhl.

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...but they're not poaching Shattenkirk + Pietrangelo.

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Tavares better than Ovi? Get real. All this he back checks like crazy stuff is homerisim at its finest. This dude is a professional troll. The islanders are picking 4th and have been a lottery team for several years now. If your management knew how to draft or build a winning team you wouldnt need to poach the hottest young defensive tandem in the nhl.
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Caps aren't trading young proven NHLer for picks/prospects unless it's a Varly situation where they're forced to make a deal like that. They're in win now mode.

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.Is that why Mark Streit is your captain?
So...
Isles did not want to put any extra the pressure on 19 yr old Tavares,by naming him Captain.They instead gave 32 yr old Streit,their best defenseman,that honor.
Tavares got an A.

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I called him a troll for one phrase about Mike Green, for this one:
This has nothing to do with opinion.
And I pointed out that I was responding to post #85.In that post,another poster suggested the isles acquire Green,then convert him to forward.

I posted that the isles needed a quality,top 4 defenseman.Not a defenseman they would need to convert to forward.

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Tavares is not in the same league as those 3.
Not yet, hopefully one day(soon)

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