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06-12-2012, 09:31 AM
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burke is a blowhard .....i think freidman tells the truth .but likly edmonton wants a desperate burke to give him gardiner .....burke is mediocre and now the whole world knows ....a supposedly lesser GM just won a cup burkie ....your stock is dropping fast ...your a bottom third caliber GM and now we all know
schenn was an overpayment anyways .....glad the goof didnt do it
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06-12-2012, 09:39 AM
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Having a GM that calls ******** on 'reporters' is apparently a waste of time? ******* Leaf fans are ********.

edit: $cumbags is a censored word? dear lord.
Look up what it is.

Friedman screwed with Schenn and Burke's lives just to make people pay attention to him, basically.

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06-12-2012, 09:40 AM
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Why are Frideman's cheeks and nose often rosy red?

This would happen to me when I was on cocaine.

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from the oilers perspective schenn and your 5th does not get number 1. The deal I offered earlier was Schenn, Kadri and the 5th for 1st, Gagner and a prospect (oiler fans went a little nuts). I offered this before Murray had a good world championship and he will now go in the top 3. We can argue to hell and back, but after the top 3, there is a drop off and it is a big one (IMO).

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He's just dispelling a rumor. Don't understand the commotion.

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from the oilers perspective schenn and your 5th does not get number 1. The deal I offered earlier was Schenn, Kadri and the 5th for 1st, Gagner and a prospect (oiler fans went a little nuts). I offered this before Murray had a good world championship and he will go in the top 3. We can argue to hell and back, but after the top 3, there is a drop off and it is a big one (IMO).
Who is the drop off after? Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, Murray and/or Forsberg?


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Sad that there is even an article to write about shooting down a rumor.

In the end wouldn't expect the Leafs to make a massive push for #1. Have enough skilled wingers that it isn't a real issue. Of course anywhere else 2-4 might be interesting to look into, but would think Burke is fine to stay at 5 and take who is there.

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06-12-2012, 09:57 AM
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Burke chill the **** out!!!!

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from the oilers perspective schenn and your 5th does not get number 1. The deal I offered earlier was Schenn, Kadri and the 5th for 1st, Gagner and a prospect (oiler fans went a little nuts). I offered this before Murray had a good world championship and he will go in the top 3. We can argue to hell and back, but after the top 3, there is a drop off and it is a big one (IMO).
And to that, I say hell no.

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Burke also had zero interest in coming to Toronto from Anaheim.

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06-12-2012, 10:03 AM
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Burke has denied it so it must be happening.
"Where there's smoke, there's fire" as the saying goes.

In order for Elliot Freidman to name Luke Schenn in trade rumours must have come from hearing something, from someone. His career is not been rumour based without substantiated evidence as he is a well respected sports reporter.

However he might have put 2 and 2 together linking him to Edmonton on a need basis to connect the two teams. Schenn might be headed to another team in trade instead, to give merit to the possibility of a trade.

Perhaps its a Oilers GM Tambellini fishing expedition just putting the idea out there in the wind and see what happens and generate interest and market value for his pick.

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it's a darned if you do and darned if you don't kind of thing

If he doesn't deny them the the media goes nuts with

"Leafs do not deny Schenn on the block, trade to Oilers imminent"

If he does deny them, they still have a story to run and an invitation to speculate all the more or at least to somehow bring up Burkes supposed "arrogance" with the media and work RW into the conversation

and round and round she goes
You are exactly right.

1. Friedman makes a claim on national TV

2. Burke is asked to comment and denies it.

3. Cox writes Burke is "furious".

4. HF posters get their shorts in a knot.

round and round indeed.

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You are exactly right.

1. Friedman makes a claim on national TV

2. Burke is asked to comment and denies it.

3. Cox writes Burke is "furious".

4. HF posters get their shorts in a knot.

round and round indeed.
AND ON AND ON AND Onnnnnnn....

Seriously sad...remember seeing a thread regarding how burke wasn't making a presense on tv or something, but just a while back people were moaning why he talks to much to the media! LMAO

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06-12-2012, 10:16 AM
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Now 28 other teams don't think Schenn to Edmonton is a done deal, and start calling Bourke to see what it will take to get schenn.

If Bourke in fact had never discussed this deal with Edm, then no problems him stating so. A lesson we can learn is, all trade rumours are stupid.
Burke, his name is Burke.

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06-12-2012, 10:17 AM
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He's just dispelling a rumor. Don't understand the commotion.
Because we have group of posters here that hate a man they have never met and will take any opportunity to bash him, even about things that don't matter.

It's sad really.

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Burke, his name is Burke.
he does it on purpose.

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"Where there's smoke, there's fire" as the saying goes.

In order for Elliot Freidman to name Luke Schenn in trade rumours must have come from hearing something, from someone. His career is not been rumour based without substantiated evidence as he is a well respected sports reporter.

However he might have put 2 and 2 together linking him to Edmonton on a need basis to connect the two teams. Schenn might be headed to another team in trade instead, to give merit to the possibility of a trade.

Perhaps its a Oilers GM Tambellini fishing expedition just putting the idea out there in the wind and see what happens and generate interest and market value for his pick.
Or perhaps he just came up with it to fill his 30 thought quota. Sure, Edm needs defense-men, but so do a lot of teams and teams have other defense-men to offer. A lot of what he writes, while an interesting read, is pure speculation, with no basis. He speculates Edm might be interested and speculates what other teams think of Schenn. Nothing is writes can be taken for truth, unless he specifically says, "I heard from XXXX that they think YYYY". Its called 30 thoughts for a reason.

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10. There are rumblings that Toronto will offer Luke Schenn to Edmonton for a swap of first-rounders. No doubt Brian Burke would like to make a huge draft splash. He loves the big stage. And I do believe the Oilers like Schenn and have discussed his availability before. But I just can't see it happening for the first-overall selection. That's not enough. It'll be interesting, though, to see how many teams think Schenn will be better off outside Toronto. Sounds like the Maple Leafs are aware of that and, as a result, ask for a lot in return.
This is the thought on what was said on hotstove is the whole basis for Cox's whole article. Totaly baseless and without merit. Burke is simple backing his players he believes in, not doing it would cause just a big of stir.

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06-12-2012, 10:27 AM
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I can only imagine how tiring and annoying it is for Burke to have to respond to these rumors and having to do all the internal damage control as a result of all the baseless babble.

I'd lose my freaking mind if I were him. Every time someone like Friedman runs their mouth and starts a rumor, I'm sure it ruins the rest of his week. How would you feel about that? Especially when you're working hard on important stuff like the draft.

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06-12-2012, 10:28 AM
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How can any of you be annoyed with Burke defending his player? Schenn has clearly not had the most stable start in Toronto, and if you want that to continue to be the case, you leave him in trade rumours all day long.

I'm not saying that there hasn't been discussion, but still, you can't continue to let a young-player be put in so many rumours like this.

The day Toronto trades Schenn will be a sad day. I am confident that he will become a very solid top-4 dman that can finally be used to shut down a team's top line. Not even sure the last time we had a d-pairing that was even close to this task and he will go a long way to making one.

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06-12-2012, 10:31 AM
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I don't work in Hockey but if I were to guess, here's what Burke had to do because of Friedman's loose lips at a bare minimum:

1. Conference call with Schenn's Agent
2. Conference call with Schenn
3. Meeting with the management team
4. At least one call with the media
5. Respond to hundreds of emails from guys like Dreger asking him to comment.

Again, I'd want to piss on Friedman's doorstep if it were me.

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Pretty good timing with the draft being next weekend.

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he does it on purpose.
what can spelling a person's name wrong possibly accomplish?

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Those 3 seconds he spent replying to that question will mean the difference between winning the cup and another season without playoffs. Book it!!

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I don't see how this puts it to bed. You guys always forget that Burke is a lawyer. Look at his statement:

“I have never discussed this trade or any trade involving Luke Schenn to Edmonton."

The key word is "to" Edmonton. If he said that he has never discussed any trade involving Luke Schenn WITH Edmonton, that might mean something. He is just stating that he has never discussed the trade with anyone in the media, namely Friedman.

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Burke, his name is Burke.

no worries we all know he means Brad Bark when he writes Bourke

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