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Sens shopping Robin Lehner and eyeing Malcom Subban

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06-12-2012, 09:00 PM
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You ain't kidding.



Even if the Devils weren't almost assuredly forfeiting that pick, that isn't a great proposal for last year's Calder winning goalie and MVP.
Devils are officially keeping the pick.

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As others have mentioned there's literally nothing about the Sens shopping Lehner. And why would they, he won them an AHL championship and was MVP, why would you trade that?
Are you seriously denying hearing Lehner trade talk?...

This season's stats (AHL):
13-22-1 with a 3.26 GAA and a .907 save%

1. He's been mentioned in trades multiple times before
2. They are potentially taking Subban with the 15th pick
3. Anderson is our starting Goalie for the next 3 years
4. Bishop is a very capable backup

Its actually hard to believe that a Sens fan could argue this. If they arent eyeing Subban, then sure... but it looks like they might be, and if you add it all up... trading Lehener and drafting Subban is what you get.

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Subban could definitely be available at #15, and Lehner is likely a top 3 goalie prospect (I dont consider Schneider and Bernier prospects anymore).

What could the Sens get for Lehner?
I'd assume they want a young Dman in return.

Other Sens that could be "shopped" and included in proposals: Foligno (RFA), Condra, Butler, Gonchar and Wiercioch
Anyone else is unlikely to be moved honestly

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Why would it make sense to shop Lehner when Subban at best won't have any sort of impact at the pro level for what, two years at the absolute minimum?

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Are you seriously denying hearing Lehner trade talk?...

This season's stats (AHL):
13-22-1 with a 3.26 GAA and a .907 save%

1. He's been mentioned in trades multiple times before
2. They are potentially taking Subban with the 15th pick
3. Anderson is our starting Goalie for the next 3 years
4. Bishop is a very capable backup

Its actually hard to believe that a Sens fan could argue this. If they arent eyeing Subban, then sure... but it looks like they might be, and if you add it all up... trading Lehener and drafting Subban is what you get.
We are eying highly touted, rugged nosed forward Zegmus Grigerson, must mean we are shopping Noesen, right? That is pretty much what you have concluded here.

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I think its funny how I post a RUMOR with two sources (do a google search and likely find many others), and get basically no proposals because people are too focused on bashing sources and trying to look smart, yet in other threads, people offer **** like Price and Subban in trades, without sources, but get proposals... lmao.

I'll know for next time not to put sources on HF. lol

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Why would it make sense to shop Lehner when Subban at best won't have any sort of impact at the pro level for what, two years at the absolute minimum?
Because they have Bishop and Anderson

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Devils are more then likely forfeiting that pick due to the Kovulchuk fiasco.
I thought so to but.....

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...7#post50845987

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Are you seriously denying hearing Lehner trade talk?...

This season's stats (AHL):
13-22-1 with a 3.26 GAA and a .907 save%

1. He's been mentioned in trades multiple times before
2. They are potentially taking Subban with the 15th pick
3. Anderson is our starting Goalie for the next 3 years
4. Bishop is a very capable backup

Its actually hard to believe that a Sens fan could argue this. If they arent eyeing Subban, then sure... but it looks like they might be, and if you add it all up... trading Lehener and drafting Subban is what you get.
Your looking way to far into 1 interview with Subban.

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I think its funny how I post a RUMOR with two sources (do a google search and likely find many others), and get basically no proposals because people are too focused on bashing sources and trying to look smart, yet in other threads, people offer **** like Price and Subban in trades, without sources, but get proposals... lmao.

I'll know for next time not to put sources on HF. lol
Because they post a proposal, not an inferred rumor.

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Highly disagree with the bolded.

Also seems to be a pretty weird deal, If you think Lehner is so good why would you move him for Subban??


I'd say top 3-5 goaltending prospects. And yes, we'll keep him.

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Leafs would have lots of interest, im a huge fan of Lehner and i think he can be a solid #1 G

would something around Kadri work ?
Erm, we don't really need more goalie prospects, especially at the cost of just about our only skill forward prospect.

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Kadri for Lehner + 2nd Murray was interested in Kadri at the 09 draft, but Burke took him 1st. You could also add Rynnas and change the 2nd into a 1st.

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I think its funny how I post a RUMOR with two sources (do a google search and likely find many others), and get basically no proposals because people are too focused on bashing sources and trying to look smart, yet in other threads, people offer **** like Price and Subban in trades, without sources, but get proposals... lmao.

I'll know for next time not to put sources on HF. lol
1) The link you gave is to a fan blog if I am not mistaken
2) Subban also met with the oiler brass last week-does that mean they are going to take him first overall? No, it means they are being thorough and looking into all aspects of the draft.
3) I do not see a rumour in the link, I see a team talking to a player--guess what--nearly every team will talk with subban because he is a highly regarded goalie. I believe he meets with Vancouver in a few days--does that mean they are trading both of their current goalies

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We are eying highly touted, rugged nosed forward Zegmus Grigerson, must mean we are shopping Noesen, right? That is pretty much what you have concluded here.
You are simply trolling at this point...

There are TWO spots on the roster for goalies... 3 if you want to count being an AHL starter. We have all those spots filled, and want draft ANOTHER goalie with a 1st round pick...

Thats a completely different situation because both Noesen and Grigerson could make the team at some point. Do you seriously think Lehner and Subban will be our starter and backup?

I said what I said, and if you disagree then fine, but dont try and look smart by changing my words. It isnt working

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Why would it make sense to shop Lehner when Subban at best won't have any sort of impact at the pro level for what, two years at the absolute minimum?
Lehner isnt making the team next year, and Anderson is singed for 2 more years after that.

2012-2013: Anderson + Bishop
2013-2014: Anderson + Bishop
2014-2015: Anderson + Bishop
2015-2016: Subban + Bishop

Subban would have 3 full years to develop, and theres no way in hell Lehner waits that long. Anderson has been really good for us too.
It might not happen, but you cant say it doesnt make sense. Especially considering the return we could currently get on Lehner.

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I gotta say, as a Leaf fan, I really feel the Senators would really regret moving Lehner if they do. I really like him as a fellow goaltender.

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Are you seriously denying hearing Lehner trade talk?...

This season's stats (AHL):
13-22-1 with a 3.26 GAA and a .907 save%

1. He's been mentioned in trades multiple times before
2. They are potentially taking Subban with the 15th pick
3. Anderson is our starting Goalie for the next 3 years
4. Bishop is a very capable backup

Its actually hard to believe that a Sens fan could argue this. If they arent eyeing Subban, then sure... but it looks like they might be, and if you add it all up... trading Lehener and drafting Subban is what you get.
I would deny any kind of rumour that he's being shopped personally. He's 20 years old, has an amazing compete level, has already been the MVP of a team that had little business winning a pro level championship, has the bloodlines with his father training Lundqvist (and him), has shown really well when called upon at the NHL level.

I understand the sentiment, I didn't really understand the acquisition and subsequent 1 year deal for Bishop, but I think Lehner's their guy - and if they do move Lehner, it'll be in a package for a big time player like Nash (hypothetically). I think Bishop will be traded way before Lehner is.

That's my take and it's all IMO, but I stand by it.

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Kadri for Lehner + 2nd Murray was interested in Kadri at the 09 draft, but Burke took him 1st. You could also add Rynnas and change the 2nd into a 1st.
Ottawa would not be the team adding.

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You are simply trolling at this point...

There are TWO spots on the roster for goalies... 3 if you want to count being an AHL starter. We have all those spots filled, and want draft ANOTHER goalie with a 1st round pick...

Thats a completely different situation because both Noesen and Grigerson could make the team at some point. Do you seriously think Lehner and Subban will be our starter and backup?

I said what I said, and if you disagree then fine, but dont try and look smart by changing my words. It isnt working
Assuming that we are trading Lehner because we talked to a goalie prospect, whom it is very likely we will not draft is one foolish thing.

Assuming you have to trade a goalie prospect if you want to bring in a new one, another foolish thing.

Why can't we have both? Subban has 2 more years in the O. For all we know we could have traded Bishop, or Anderson by then.

Both guys don't need to make the team at the same time

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I see a team talking to a player--guess what--nearly every team will talk with subban because he is a highly regarded goalie. I believe he meets with Vancouver in a few days--does that mean they are trading both of their current goalies
Again...
1. Lehener being shopped IS NOT ANYTHING NEW... its been proposed before, as far back as the Bishop trade.

2. "Subban was a guy the organization was extremely high on" is the key here.

The rumor is based on the RUMOR that the Sens like Subban and could draft him.
Based on that RUMOR, does it not make sense that they trade Lehner? I mean, cmon... lol... its really not that difficult to piece together here...

People are proposing Pat Kane trades because he partied hard, and some guys in Philly got traded for that reason. I dont get why im getting my balls busted for a realistic scenario here... lol

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