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06-11-2012, 07:18 PM
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Posted in the Mod Mock on the Mock Draft Board:



Yes, yes, Ceci was there and Dansk later. Eh. I went with forwards with size and skill, and some speed. *shrug* Ceci was a thought, but ZG was clearly on the radar. And Jankowski could be the sleeper pick of the top two rounds -- love what the kid brings.
Just curious, would you have still gone with Zharkov if Pearson lasted one more pick?

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06-11-2012, 08:00 PM
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This is the first one since like 2006 that I haven't studied all that closely. I don't know who basically anyone is beyond the top 15.

Not sure why, since we have 4 picks in the top 45. Just an off year for me.
I'm in the DC area, and on a bit of a break for the next thirty days, and I've had some time this spring, so I've been able to plug in a bit.

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I like the Zharkov pick because I think if you are using all four picks then you should be take a couple shots at a boom or bust type, ESPECIALLY when the two 1st round picks are relatively safe bets.
It's true that Girgensons is safe, but the same cannot be said for Jankowski.
Like I said after the first few times I saw him (before all the hype he's gotten), he has all the tools to be a fantastic NHL player.
However, scouts do get fooled, especially when the player is facing inferior competition.
He also needs to be handled correctly, as he's physically immature and the gap in quality between a Québec prep school that plays against a mix of competition (anywhere from NE prep schools and big tournaments to CÉGEP and Sport-Études teams) and one of the strongest conferences in the NCAA is huge.
He definitely needs a year of junior A so that he can get on a strength and training program that lasts for the whole season and so that he can face stronger competition.

As for Zharkov, I don't see him as a "boom or bust" type, more of just a "bust".
Strong vibe with him, for whatever reason.

Looking at the mock, it's pretty much what I would have chosen.
I'd easily take Shore at 42 (taken at 43) though, but I like him more than most I think.
Winther is a solid pick too (my type of player, as he has some high-end sense and skill, along with along with an edge).
The only other players still on the board that are really appealing are Pelech and Severson (big edge to Severson, as he's eerily similar to some guy who also played for Kelowna named Shea).
It's too bad Vasilevski was already taken, as I think he's right up there with just about every top goalie prospect.

Edit: I like Coda Gordon too, but I don't know if I like him that high.
His skating is poor and I think it has a lot to do with the fact that he broke his femur in bantam.
If he checked out medically though, I'd think about it.


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06-12-2012, 08:01 AM
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Just curious, would you have still gone with Zharkov if Pearson lasted one more pick?
No, I would've hopped on Pearson like the proverbial fat kid on the proverbial Smartie. I had Shore in the mix for the Sabres second pick too. There are a lot of guys to like.

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06-12-2012, 09:03 AM
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I don't believe Buffalo picks at the 12th or 21st pick.
I believe they trade them.

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06-12-2012, 01:35 PM
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http://sabres.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=634542

Some cool draft factoids.

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2: Prior to this season, the Sabres have owned two first-round picks in the three other drafts: 1995 (Jay McKee-14, Martin Biron-16); 2002 (Keith Ballard-11, Daniel Paille-20); 2008 (Tyler Myers-12, Tyler Ennis-26).

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06-12-2012, 02:14 PM
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Let's hope that trend of selecting quality NHL players in drafts with multiple first round picks continues...

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06-12-2012, 02:36 PM
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Ted Black:

"Over about the last 30 years, only 20 deadline day transactions that yielded a first round pick...."

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Bill Guerin was traded for less when he had 28 goals .

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06-12-2012, 05:53 PM
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Found this on the prospect board. Pretty awesome stuff.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-P5...Mjg/edit?pli=1

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Devils let deadline pass without giving up 2012 first-round draft pick.

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Odd, indeed. The only rationale I can cobble together is that they really like a couple players they think will definitely be there when they pick. Perhaps they have their eye on a possible long-term successor to Brodeur (Subban, Vasilevsky, Dansk) at #29.

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06-12-2012, 10:53 PM
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Odd, indeed. The only rationale I can cobble together is that they really like a couple players they think will definitely be there when they pick. Perhaps they have their eye on a possible long-term successor to Brodeur (Subban, Vasilevsky, Dansk) at #29.
Maybe they think they're winning the cup next season. The 29th pick is higher than the 30th.

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06-12-2012, 10:56 PM
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of course they don't when it would benefit us greatly.

I hope they finish in the bottom 10 the next few years so they lose a high pick

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06-12-2012, 10:58 PM
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of course they don't when it would benefit us greatly.

I hope they finish in the bottom 10 the next few years so they lose a high pick
Isn't the deadline 3 days before the draft?

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So, Jankowski was on The Pipeline Show and pretty much confirmed that he'll be in Dubuque next season even though he already has a spot at Providence and they want him there.
He left it open to whatever team drafts him, but seemed like he was personally more interested in taking it slow.
His combine vitals (along with many others today) and he's 6'2.5'' 168 lbs.
He also said on TPS that he wants his NHL playing weight to be 190-195, so he has some work to do.

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Isn't the deadline 3 days before the draft?
No, 24 hours after the conclusion of the Final.

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06-12-2012, 11:48 PM
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Really, really weird that New Jersey did not give up there pick this year...I can almost guarantee they will not make the Stanley again next year with Parise most likely leaving. Either way maybe they are looking into getting a top end goalie to replace Brodeur. This year has a plethora of high end goalies in the top 5 goalie rankings.

As far as the Sabres 4 first picks go. Here is my ranking in what I want to happen.

12th Overall

1.) Radek Faksa
2.) Griffin Reinhart
3.) Cody Ceci
4.) Olli Maatta
5.) Zemgus Girgensons

21st Overall

1.) Brendan Gaunce
2.) Tomas Hertl
3.) Tom Wilson
4.) Slater Koekkoek
5.) Derrick Pouliot

42nd Overall

1.) Mark Jankowski
2.) Colton Sissons
3.) Tanner Pearson
4.) Nicolas Kerdiles
5.) Lukas Sutter

44nd Overall

1.) Andrei Vasilevski
2.) Oscar Dansk
3.) Martin Frk
4.) Jarrod Maidens
5.) Jordan Schmaltz

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Really, really weird that New Jersey did not give up there pick this year...I can almost guarantee they will not make the Stanley again next year with Parise most likely leaving. Either way maybe they are looking into getting a top end goalie to replace Brodeur. This year has a plethora of high end goalies in the top 5 goalie rankings.

As far as the Sabres 4 first picks go. Here is my ranking in what I want to happen.

12th Overall

1.) Radek Faksa
2.) Griffin Reinhart (YES)
3.) Cody Ceci
4.) Olli Maatta
5.) Zemgus Girgensons

21st Overall

1.) Brendan Gaunce
2.) Tomas Hertl (YES)
3.) Tom Wilson
4.) Slater Koekkoek
5.) Derrick Pouliot

42nd Overall

1.) Mark Jankowski (YES)
2.) Colton Sissons
3.) Tanner Pearson
4.) Nicolas Kerdiles
5.) Lukas Sutter

44nd Overall

1.) Andrei Vasilevski
2.) Oscar Dansk
3.) Martin Frk
4.) Jarrod Maidens (YES)
5.) Jordan Schmaltz
i like it

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06-13-2012, 12:53 AM
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I'd rather fill needs with trades and UFA, and just pick BPA. Buffalo's needs are going to be different by the time the 2012 draft class makes it to the NHL.
Yes, but you can address organizational need.

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Odd, indeed. The only rationale I can cobble together is that they really like a couple players they think will definitely be there when they pick. Perhaps they have their eye on a possible long-term successor to Brodeur (Subban, Vasilevsky, Dansk) at #29.
That or they want to trade this year's pick for some help for next year. Regardless it's a very odd decision.

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of course they don't when it would benefit us greatly.

I hope they finish in the bottom 10 the next few years so they lose a high pick

It's one selection, more than a dozen picks before the Sabres first selection of the second round and there is nothing to say the subsiquent year where the Devils have to give up the pick won't shift the Sabres in the first round, rather than mid-second.

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http://unitedstatesofhockey.com/2012...ex-galchenyuk/

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Just for good measure however, Galchenyuk has stated that he has given up his Russian passport. As he told Terry Koshan of QMI Agency:

“I just have my American passport now, and it was my decision all the way. My dad said to make the decision that makes me comfortable. I felt comfortable about USA Hockey and how they treat the players. I consider myself an American.”

Another source with knowledge of the eligibility rules has informed me that they’d expect there to be no issue with Galchenyuk’s eligibility. Without the Russian passport, he may no longer be considered a dual citizen in the eyes of the IIHF. Though the fuzzy ruling on Matteau obviously leaves some room for concern.

This is the important line for Galchenyuk: “I consider myself an American.”
No Russian factor to see here. Carry on.

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No Russian factor to see here. Carry on.
the more interviews he gives, the more i want to give up everything possible to get him (That includes being in agreement with Chain, that they will have to trade Ennis or Hodgson to get #2/Galchenyuk)

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the more interviews he gives, the more i want to give up everything possible to get him (That includes being in agreement with Chain, that they will have to trade Ennis or Hodgson to get #2/Galchenyuk)
200' possession game, high skill level and high character... this is a guy to build around.

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200' possession game, high skill level and high character... this is a guy to build around.


Absolutely. The guy is a hard-working gym rat with good hockey sense and an great deal of skill. Can't go wrong.

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