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06-13-2012, 10:39 PM
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It's been interesting reading these Yak general discussion threads, in particular how the overall mood of them have run the gamut from total jubilation at the start, to what is all but the reception after a funeral now.

"Yeah, the sandwiches aren't bad...but I'm finding it hard to enjoy them, y'know?"


****, if we go ahead and pick Ryan Murray 1st overall and have MacGregor try to shamelessly sell it like he honestly thought he was the BPA, or have to endure Burke's smug face strutting up to the podium to use his freshly-traded-for 1st overall pick to make Yakupov a Leaf, I think I may end up clubbing baby seals by the end of it.

"Gosh, we sure have a lot of defensemen!"

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06-13-2012, 10:41 PM
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It just seems like we are believing that Burke/East media is trying to sell us a Rolex by displaying one from the lining of his jacket.

He doesn't 'really' own Schultz rights and doesn't have permission to speak to him, can't guarantee he would sign with us anyway. Surely our management isn't that dense. Gardiner (sp) MIGHT help Schultz make up his mind, but we don't even know if Gardiner is on the table. And we do not know who the first 4 picks would be.

If they don't pick Nyeelovupff then they must be geniuses, or gamblers, or idiots. Might take a while to find out.

Regardless there is no way our fans should boo anyone, let alone a kid. grrrr.

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06-13-2012, 10:43 PM
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If we pick someone who isn't Yakupov they might even get booed out of town .
Is there a draft "party" again this year? \

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06-13-2012, 10:44 PM
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Just because I laughed out loud a little when I thought of this.

Here is the scenario I would like to see:

Edmonton
- 5th overall
- Jake Gardiner

Toronto
-1st overall

Followed by...

Edmonton
-Justin Schultz Rights
-6th overall

Anaheim
-Gagner
- MPS
- 2nd round pick (Edmonton)

Followed by...

Edmonton Drafts both Russian Centers (who get passed over for being Russian) at 5th and 6th overall.

So after the draft, Edmonton walks away with this:
-Mikhail Grigorenko
-Alex Galchenyuk
-Jake Gardiner
-Justin Schultz


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06-13-2012, 10:45 PM
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Trust in the Katz Dinner.

Yakupov is the guy!
Is it true that the other prospects that came didn't get a special dinner? Don't remember since the thread popped like 5 pages overnight once

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Is it true that the other prospects that came didn't get a special dinner? Don't remember since the thread popped like 5 pages overnight once
Did the godfather kiss him?

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06-13-2012, 10:48 PM
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Is it true that the other prospects that came didn't get a special dinner? Don't remember since the thread popped like 5 pages overnight once
Yakupov Grigorenko and Murray all had the dinner.

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06-13-2012, 10:49 PM
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Just because I laughed out loud a little when I thought of this.

Here is the scenario I would like to see:

Edmonton
- 5th overall
- Jake Gardiner

Toronto
-1st overall


Followed by...

Edmonton
-Justin Schultz Rights
-6th overall

Anaheim
-Gagner
- MPS
- 2nd round pick (Edmonton)

Followed by...

Edmonton Drafts both Russian Centers (who get passed over for being Russian) at 5th and 6th overall.

So after the draft, Edmonton walks away with this:
-Mikhail Grigorenko
-Alex Galchenyuk
-Jake Gardiner
-Justin Schultz


No thank you.
Unless Toronto throws in their 1st next season.

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06-13-2012, 10:50 PM
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He clarified that as the best guy for the next 15 years. They very well could think that is Murray, or someone else other than Yak.
How much should a team worry about 10-15 years when you only get the player for 7 years before he goes UFA?

It's probably true that having had the player for 7 years helps you to retain him into his UFA years, but it's not a certainty, and arguably less of a certainty than accurately projecting which player will be better for years 1-6 while the other will be better for years 7-15

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06-13-2012, 10:51 PM
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Is there a draft "party" again this year? \
I have no idea if there is,but fans want playoffs and drafting Yakupov and not Murray will get us there quicker.

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06-13-2012, 10:53 PM
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Just because I laughed out loud a little when I thought of this.

Here is the scenario I would like to see:

Edmonton
- 5th overall
- Jake Gardiner

Toronto
-1st overall

Followed by...

Edmonton
-Justin Schultz Rights
-6th overall

Anaheim
-Gagner
- MPS
- 2nd round pick (Edmonton)

Followed by...

Edmonton Drafts both Russian Centers (who get passed over for being Russian) at 5th and 6th overall.

So after the draft, Edmonton walks away with this:
-Mikhail Grigorenko
-Alex Galchenyuk
-Jake Gardiner
-Justin Schultz

Does it make me greedy that I want more from Toronto? Kadri/Colbourne + next year's first...

And just a question...

Do you take Nail Yakupov, Alex Galchenyuk, Henrik Samuelsson (with our 2nd), and Justin Schultz, assuming we can poach him

Over the above package? (Grigs, Gals, Gardiner, Schultz and the overpay)

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06-13-2012, 10:56 PM
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Yakupov Grigorenko and Murray all had the dinner.
Ah, I could have sworn that it was only Yakupov that was invited. My mistake.

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06-13-2012, 10:58 PM
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These last 9 days are going to be intolerable for Edmonton fans. The Eastern Media groups are putting up as much smoke as possible regarding our first pick.

In Stu we trust. He has not let us down yet.

(I am concerned he recommends Yakupov and Tambo out-thinks it all and trades it to TO with the hope of acquiring Schultz if Gardiner is part of the package).

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06-13-2012, 11:01 PM
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Just because I laughed out loud a little when I thought of this.

Here is the scenario I would like to see:

Edmonton
- 5th overall
- Jake Gardiner

Toronto
-1st overall

Followed by...

Edmonton
-Justin Schultz Rights
-6th overall

Anaheim
-Gagner
- MPS
- 2nd round pick (Edmonton)

Followed by...

Edmonton Drafts both Russian Centers (who get passed over for being Russian) at 5th and 6th overall.

So after the draft, Edmonton walks away with this:
-Mikhail Grigorenko
-Alex Galchenyuk
-Jake Gardiner
-Justin Schultz

If there was any chance of this happening, I'd be all over it!

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06-13-2012, 11:05 PM
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A trade to hope to secure Schultz by getting Gardiner is idiotic

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I have no idea if there is,but fans want playoffs and drafting Yakupov and not Murray will get us there quicker.
I can picture that if TSN panned to the bar and Tambo doesn't get Yak, people will be pissed. TSN would probably have to bleep the entire scene

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06-13-2012, 11:13 PM
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how many people would get fired if the Oil somehow traded for Gardiner and the fifth and then Burke signs J.Schultz to replace Gardiner and takes Yakupov 1st overall?
They might fire the coach.

Or Joey.

That would be about it.

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06-13-2012, 11:14 PM
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Ah, I could have sworn that it was only Yakupov that was invited. My mistake.
I thought it was only Yakupov as well. I know he mentioned the dinner but I don't remember the other two saying they were going.

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06-13-2012, 11:16 PM
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If Murray is an oiler I will never embrace him and I'll boo him.

Hahaha yakupov pls.

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Just because I laughed out loud a little when I thought of this.

Here is the scenario I would like to see:

Edmonton
- 5th overall
- Jake Gardiner

Toronto
-1st overall

Followed by...

Edmonton
-Justin Schultz Rights
-6th overall

Anaheim
-Gagner
- MPS
- 2nd round pick (Edmonton)

Followed by...

Edmonton Drafts both Russian Centers (who get passed over for being Russian) at 5th and 6th overall.

So after the draft, Edmonton walks away with this:
-Mikhail Grigorenko
-Alex Galchenyuk
-Jake Gardiner
-Justin Schultz

do want...

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I thought it was only Yakupov as well. I know he mentioned the dinner but I don't remember the other two saying they were going.
Maybe I'm wrong about the dinner, now that I think about it.

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06-13-2012, 11:19 PM
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I really hope they pan over to Burkie at the Draft when we keep #1 and (hopefully) pick Yakupov.

He'll be so pissed off.

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If Murray is an oiler I will never embrace him and I'll boo him.

Hahaha yakupov pls.
boooooooooo Murray booooooooooooo Murray we wanted Yaki and not you boooooooo Murray boooooooooo Murray we wanted Yaki.



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Okay, am I the only one that wants to draft yakupov just so we can watch his goal celebrations. Seriously if that kid scores in the first period the other team mine as well just give up because his intensity just gives you all the momentum just like Hall.

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06-13-2012, 11:25 PM
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I can already envision tsn yapping about how the oilers will run into cap problems after Oil draft yaks(assuming the management team arent idiotic like we think)
its simple..
Horcoffs 4.5,
Hemskys 5.0,
Bulin Walls 5 or something...

These plus the cap space already available will eventually be used to resign the kids..plus a defender or two and whatever it will be to resign Smid, Petry, etc..
Maybe theres also a slight discount the stars of the team may take to build a true dynasty, like I could see Hall, Ebs, and RNH, and hopefully Yakupov taking 6.0 mill cap hits instead of 7 if that means they have a stronger supporting cast..its all part of being the leaders on the team, putting team first and thinking multiple championships..
I mean its 6 mill a season,thats already an insane amount of money, if the player wants to leave over a small difference then he can be traded for very valuable assets..
I personally see Hall, Ebs, RNH, and Yakupov as all very team oriented guys.

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