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06-14-2012, 03:05 PM
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JayBo to Philly or Montreal

Eklund saying Philly and Montreal really interested in Jay Bouwmeester.

"The Flyers, Canadiens, Capitals, and Hurricanes all may have interest in Jay Bouwmeester".

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklun...s-Iggy/1/44944

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06-14-2012, 03:08 PM
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it's not happening, the Flames can ill afford to move their only shutdown defenseman, Bouwmeester is as important to the Flames defensive game as Iginla is to their offensive game.

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Much as I dislike JBo, we can't move him without bringing in someone else who can play 23-25 minutes a night. We really only have 2 top 4 defenseman at the moment. I'd love to move him if we could sign Suter, but I know we can't. Giordano and JBo should not be traded unless we're rebuilding or bring in at least 1 more top 4 guy.

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Literally the only way I would trade for JBo was if Gomez was going the other (which obviously wont happen). Do not want that contract.

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Literally the only way I would trade for JBo was if Gomez was going the other (which obviously wont happen). Do not want that contract.
and this is why Bouwmeester is the most underrated played on HF. The sheer ignorance on this board in regards to him is disturbing.

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Literally the only way I would trade for JBo was if Gomez was going the other (which obviously wont happen). Do not want that contract.
Only difference being JBO is an nhl quality player, just overpaid.

Gomez on the other hand.

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Literally the only way I would trade for JBo was if Gomez was going the other (which obviously wont happen). Do not want that contract.
The difference is JBo is still an average top pairing defenseman. Gomez is barely a third line center. One is a quality player on a bad contract, the other is a bad player on a bad contract. I wouldn't even think of moving him for Gomez. Even if you sent picks or prospects back.

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The difference is JBo is still an average top pairing defenseman. Gomez is barely a third line center. One is a quality player on a bad contract, the other is a bad player on a bad contract. I wouldn't even think of moving him for Gomez. Even if you sent picks or prospects back.
Isn't that was the poster said though? That the Flames obviously wouldn't take Gomez' contract and that JBo's isn't a good contract (by your own admission).

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Isn't that was the poster said though? That the Flames obviously wouldn't take Gomez' contract and that JBo's isn't a good contract (by your own admission).
He acknowledged that we wouldn't take the deal, but still equated JBo's value as so poor that the only thing they would trade for him is the most negatively valued player in the entire league. JBo is more like Cammaleri than Gomez. Good player, overpaid though. So IMO the trade (if we were looking to move him) would look like the Cammaleri deal. Some salary in the form of a reclamation project, a decent prospect and a 2nd.

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Literally the only way I would trade for JBo was if Gomez was going the other (which obviously wont happen). Do not want that contract.
I would be okay with Calgary's choice of: Kaberle/Weber/Diaz, a 2nd and a mid tier prospect or Gionta + a mid tier prospect or one of Weber/Diaz.

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I would be okay with Calgary's choice of: Kaberle/Weber/Diaz, a 2nd and a mid tier prospect or Gionta + a mid tier prospect or one of Weber/Diaz.
I we would be okay giving you a bunch of crap of your top players too, but it doesn't mean it would happen

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I we would be okay giving you a bunch of crap of your top players too, but it doesn't mean it would happen
Nothing I've offerred is crap. It's not top tier material but it's far from crap. If you don't like someone like Kaberle, I've given you other options.

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Nothing I've offerred is crap. It's not top tier material but it's far from crap. If you don't like someone like Kaberle, I've given you other options.
yeah the option of Kaberle or bottom pairing defensemen, what a wonderful choice

If Bouwmeester is dealt it will be part of a deal for a top 6 centerman. That is the only way it makes any sense for Calgary.

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Why would Mtl want Jbo? Subban+Gorges is an excellent top pairing and they have prospects like Bealieu who can fill out the top 4.

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Why would Mtl want Jbo? Subban+Gorges is an excellent top pairing and they have prospects like Bealieu who can fill out the top 4.
Because this isnt fantasy land where defenses with no depth can be magically revived by non-ready NHL prospects.

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I wonder what J-Bo would cost Philly? Maybe something involving JVR and the rights to Carle?

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I would move JBO for both of the caps first rounders and rights to Semin.

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Bouwmeester is a lefty, correct?

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I wonder what J-Bo would cost Philly? Maybe something involving JVR and the rights to Carle?
I don't think even flames fans can gauge this. It's a really hard one to figure out. On one hand his cap hit is probably 2.5 to high for what he does on the ice. But on the other, he is still a top pairing dman on most teams and plays big minutes.

Regardless, this makes no sense for CGY. Unless they are planning on making out like bandits with FA top-4 dmen this year. This isn't a testament to how good Jaybo is, simply that our backend is AHL material without him. The fact that he never gets injured benefits our weak blueline tremendously.

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Bouwmeester is a lefty, correct?
correct.

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I wonder what J-Bo would cost Philly? Maybe something involving JVR and the rights to Carle?
we really have no need for another winger. we we need a top 6 centerman, I don't see the Flames asking for any less.

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Not happening for the Habs except if Calgary takes Bourque and Kaberle or Gomez to even out the salaries.

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I would move JBO for both of the caps first rounders and rights to Semin.
Lol. I would too. The trade has to work for the other side as well. I immensely dislike the style of player JBo is. He's worth what we gave up for Cammaleri. That's why we shouldn't trade him unless we have a better option.

The Philly fan who offered JVR and Carle's rights. If Carle was signed I'd do that. Even though we don't need another winger.

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I would move JBO for both of the caps first rounders and rights to Semin.
The Caps need two players out of those 1st round picks. I'd be willing to move the 16th in a deal, but not both. It'd have to be a roster asset, given Calgary's apparent needs.

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I'm torn on trading Bouwmeester.

I'm not sure on his open market value, but I know his value to the Flames. It'd be really stupid to trade him just for the sake of getting him off the team. That doesn't make sense. He's overpaid, yes, but he's a very good player.

I'd hope that if Bouwmeester's value to other teams really is as bad is some say, he's just retained. No point in trading him for a lesser player on another bad contract.

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