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06-14-2012, 05:31 PM
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I think Kristo will make it to the NHL but he will be a very frustrating player. He appears to have a very low hockey IQ and is a bit of a one-trick pony with severe tunnel vision.

He will likely be very streaky and will stir up many of the same sentiments that Ryder did during his time in Montreal.

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06-14-2012, 06:50 PM
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He will likely be very streaky and will stir up many of the same sentiments that Ryder did during his time in Montreal.
If we can scratch a couple 30 goal seasons out of him like we did Ryder, I am all for it.

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If we can scratch a couple 30 goal seasons out of him like we did Ryder, I am all for it.
Yes, but will he be as good as Ryder in the Bell Centre Hot Dog Eating Contest?

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06-14-2012, 10:51 PM
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I am not bashing, simply stating the obvious and what's happening in front of our eyes, it's been almost four years since he was drafted, right now, he should be a regular NHL'er.
You are stating the obvious? Let me state something even more obvious:

He's a very late second round pick. Most of them never play in the NHL.

Through 1990 to 1999, odds of a second round pick turning into a regular NHLer have been about 25%. Never saw the stats for 2000-2009 but it can't have improved much.

So let's see how he pans out. If he makes the team, booyah! Even more brownie points to Timmins. If he doesn't... so what? Do you really expect EVERY late 2nd round pick to pan out?

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It's threads like this one that make me glad CKAC is no more - for this is the kind of talk you kept hearing there - bashing for the sake of bashing. You pick a name, any name in the Habs.org and see how you can bash the management concerning him. Regardless of facts and common sense.

Hopefully less right now.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no expert and I know little about Kristo and his hockey profile. But according to what real experts said in this thread, the OP was clearly ignoring facts in order to build his Habs bashing argument.

BTW - concernig his toe - doing stupid things does not necessarily means you are stupid. Try to remember when you were young
And drunk.

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06-14-2012, 11:38 PM
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I called this a while ago. he's like Michael Ryder, but without the shot. he needs to study the likes of Tom Pyatt.

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I called this a while ago. he's like Michael Ryder, but without the shot. he needs to study the likes of Tom Pyatt.
This is exaggerated. Michael Ryder without the shot is barely ECHL calibre.

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06-15-2012, 12:03 AM
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I think Kristo will make it to the NHL but he will be a very frustrating player. He appears to have a very low hockey IQ and is a bit of a one-trick pony with severe tunnel vision.

He will likely be very streaky and will stir up many of the same sentiments that Ryder did during his time in Montreal.
As I said before, he has Versteeg written all over him. Not as nice of a puck handler, maybe a bit tougher. Streaky player with great tools but without the hockey IQ to make it consistently work. A 2nd/3rd line tweener.

The type of depth scorer that will make a difference on a good team, the type of player who will frustrate you on a lesser team, until you get rid of them and complain when they are productive elsewhere. See Ryder, Versteeg, AK and so on.

Which, considering where he was drafted, is more than you can ask for.

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06-15-2012, 07:23 AM
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Michael Ryder without the shot is barely ECHL calibre.
Michael Ryder's Stanley Cup ring and multiple 30 goal seasons say hello

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06-15-2012, 07:35 AM
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Michael Ryder's Stanley Cup ring and multiple 30 goal seasons say hello
I see him as a 2nd line winger that'll be a 25-25 player, which is good the more of those players we have the better will be. Give him time, I don't think he'll need much training to jump from college to the NHL

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Michael Ryder's Stanley Cup ring and multiple 30 goal seasons say hello
And his shot says hi as well

Ryder was all shot, but a deadly one. If Kristo is a Versteeg without the speed and a Ryder without the shot, what the hell is he? An Emelin without the hitting?

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06-15-2012, 09:00 AM
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And his shot says hi as well

Ryder was all shot, but a deadly one. If Kristo is a Versteeg without the speed and a Ryder without the shot, what the hell is he? An Emelin without the hitting?
He has the tools to be a top 6 NHLer. He skates well, both in terms of top speed, acceleration and change of direction. He has good hands, pretty good shot(accurate), poise with the puck, his vision is good, not great. I don't see any glaring weakness, he is filling out physically, now up to 188lbs and is not affraid of traffic.

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06-15-2012, 09:13 AM
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Maguire from CJMS was at the practice yesterday and was far from being impressed by Kristo's attitude. He was lazy and going with the flow instead of being like Gallagher and Bournival who were really pushing hard in every imposed exercices.

Maguire was not impressed at all.

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OMG! Character issues? The next Zherdev for sure...

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It's ****ing Danny Kristo...3rd round pick.


FFS.

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06-15-2012, 11:14 AM
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It's ****ing Danny Kristo...3rd round pick.


FFS.
Are people still using the round a prospect was chosen to demonstrate how good they are? Oh, and it's 2nd round.

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06-15-2012, 11:22 AM
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I called this a while ago. he's like Michael Ryder, but without the shot. he needs to study the likes of Tom Pyatt.
One of Kristo's best assets is his shot, quick release and he likes to shoot.

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It's ****ing Danny Kristo...3rd round pick.
2nd round

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Are people still using the round a prospect was chosen to demonstrate how good they are?
No, but to manage expectations.

It's expected a late 2nd won't make it. From that perspective, it's great when they turn out into quality NHLer and does not deserve disapointment or worse when they don't.

Only a top 10 pick can truly 'bust' in my opinion.

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06-15-2012, 11:24 AM
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Are people still using the round a prospect was chosen to demonstrate how good they are? Oh, and it's 2nd round.
No, but it makes me laugh that some people can't manage expectations and expect every one to develop at the same pace.

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And his shot says hi as well

Ryder was all shot, but a deadly one. If Kristo is a Versteeg without the speed and a Ryder without the shot, what the hell is he? An Emelin without the hitting?
I think you're way off base.
He's definately more like a Quick without the glovehand...

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He's Patrick Kane minus the offensive side of his game. But seriously, he's like Ryder, Halak and a 2nd.

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He's Patrick Kane minus the offensive side of his game. But seriously, he's like Ryder, Halak and a 2nd.
Ryder won a stanley cup, Halak is one of the best goalies in the league and the second turned out to be PK SUbban... People should just have taken that deal at the time.

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06-15-2012, 01:43 PM
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No, but to manage expectations.

It's expected a late 2nd won't make it. From that perspective, it's great when they turn out into quality NHLer and does not deserve disapointment or worse when they don't.

Only a top 10 pick can truly 'bust' in my opinion.
Well I think there can be busts after the top 10, but the standard is different. Like Kostitsyn, bad pick and a disappointment sure, but I wouldn't really call him a "bust". Now if he was a top 3 pick on the other hand, sure.

But then you have a guy like David Fischer, he was picked 20th but I'd still call him a bust because a first round pick should at least make the AHL.

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New question for the title of the thread :

Will Westislander ever start a thread with a question that is not based on jumping to conclusions?

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