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Kane doesn't want to sign with the Jets? (MOD: All Things E. Kane)

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06-15-2012, 09:29 PM
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He wants to go to Chicago and play with the other Kane. Kane/Toews/Kane
Get it done Stan.

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06-15-2012, 09:30 PM
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I'm a little bummed if it's true but not at all suprised plus he's pretty one dimensional that one dimension is awesome but we could rake in an absolute killing for him I dont think he really fits in with the "character" mold TNSE is trying to build here anyways

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06-15-2012, 09:30 PM
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To Jets:

Booth, Ballard, 1st rd pick, Schroeder

To Canucks:

Kane

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06-15-2012, 09:30 PM
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Well, if the Jets are concerned about (rumored) want-away players...


Evander Kane
Alexander Burmistrov
Ondrej Pavelec


for


Jonathan Toews

(I'm mostly kidding)

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Easy as that? What makes you think he'll sign with Columbus?
Well, yeah, there's that. It was mostly a reference to the previous thread, when a Jets fan was trying to unite Johansen and Kane.

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06-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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Then you get one of the best young players in the game who the media has already jumped on (they like to trash his character when none of it is proven).
I don't think "the media" ever jumped on Kane. When all that stuff was going down the MSM folks that did write about it, were either defending him (albeit in a roundabout way) and/or reporting TNSE and NHL PR responses to the negative stuff that was flying around on social media. And there's a bunch of stuff, true or not who knows, that they deliberately didn't touch.

It's not like there's a ton of motivation for some francophone-media reporter in Quebec to make up something about the Jets. I think it's legit, though it's probably more like he's asked to be traded.

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06-15-2012, 09:31 PM
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If he won't sign here, we're going to flip him for a comparable player. Jeff Skinner, Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, etc. No package of mediocres. Kane is our only top tier talent, and we would trade him in a 1-for-1 for a different top tier player with a bit more class.

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06-15-2012, 09:32 PM
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Dylan McIlrath, Michael St. Croix, Brandon Dubinsky and the 2012 and 2013 1st rounders for Evander Kane

Both McIlrath and St. Croix are Winnipeg boys. Would have to think that they would both be stoked playing in front of family and friends on a regular basis.
If Kane was traded and he didn't pull a Turris type move first, I'd put the price squarely at two top-10 picks or the equivalent. He's worth every bit as much, if not more, than Kessel when he was traded and although that trade ended up as an overpayment, if you scaled the Seguin pick back to even 5th overall, it'd look pretty reasonable right now. Two long shot prospects, Dubinsky and two late firsts doesn't equal that IMO. I'd be looking for Kreider + Del Zotto from the Rangers but that's based on them being younger players on the Rangers that I'm a fan of - I'm sure anything around Stepan/Kreider + could work.

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06-15-2012, 09:33 PM
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Why do Rangers fans throw Dubinsky, Anisimov, and McIlrath in every deal? No offense but none of those guys are that good.
Raymond+Schroeder+Ballard

Schenn+Kadri+XXX

Halak+Ryder+2nd

Just a fad.

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06-15-2012, 09:36 PM
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Evander Kane is the kind of player I would probably be willing to include Kreider in a deal for.

Just hate the thought of doing it.


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I'm really not surprised at all. He seemed to have garnered a bad reputation here in Winnipeg.

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Well, if the Jets are concerned about (rumored) want-away players...


Evander Kane
Alexander Burmistrov
Ondrej Pavelec


for


Jonathan Toews

(I'm mostly kidding)
Throw in Razor and done.

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If Kane was traded and he didn't pull a Turris type move first, I'd put the price squarely at two top-10 picks or the equivalent. He's worth every bit as much, if not more, than Kessel when he was traded and although that trade ended up as an overpayment, if you scaled the Seguin pick back to even 5th overall, it'd look pretty reasonable right now. Two long shot prospects, Dubinsky and two late firsts doesn't equal that IMO. I'd be looking for Kreider + Del Zotto from the Rangers but that's based on them being younger players on the Rangers that I'm a fan of - I'm sure anything around Stepan/Kreider + could work.
Stepan and MDZ as a starting point, Kreider possibly. Evander Kane is awesome after all.

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06-15-2012, 09:37 PM
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If he won't sign here, we're going to flip him for a comparable player. Jeff Skinner, Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, etc. No package of mediocres. Kane is our only top tier talent, and we would trade him in a 1-for-1 for a different top tier player with a bit more class.
An unsigned RFA who's requesting a trade? May not be that easy.

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06-15-2012, 09:38 PM
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I don't think "the media" ever jumped on Kane. When all that stuff was going down the MSM folks that did write about it, were either defending him (albeit in a roundabout way) and/or reporting TNSE and NHL PR responses to the negative stuff that was flying around on social media. And there's a bunch of stuff, true or not who knows, that they deliberately didn't touch.

It's not like there's a ton of motivation for some francophone-media reporter in Quebec to make up something about the Jets. I think it's legit, though it's probably more like he's asked to be traded.
The FreePress printing several stories about the same unproven rumors still counts as them jumping on him in my books. Regardless of the fact that they point out vehemently that they're just rumors - a practice they only do so they can't get sued - they're still bringing it to everyone's attention when people might not have otherwise heard about it.

I still think there's plenty reason for a Quebec reporter to fabricate rumors about the Jets and Kane. Jets news still sells pretty well nationwide because of the novelty of the team and 20 year-old 30 goal-scorers don't come around too often, much less switch teams.

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06-15-2012, 09:39 PM
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An unsigned RFA who's requesting a trade? May not be that easy.
Agreed, but we can't afford to trade him for less. He would have to verbally tell the Jets where he is willing to sign and we could swap him for a similar young star.

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If he won't sign here, we're going to flip him for a comparable player. Jeff Skinner, Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, etc. No package of mediocres. Kane is our only top tier talent, and we would trade him in a 1-for-1 for a different top tier player with a bit more class.
Why would those teams move those players for Kane? (not that he isn't worth it)

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06-15-2012, 09:40 PM
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Evander Kane for Milan Michalek.

Kane is a center/left wing while Michalek is left/right wing. They have comparable point totals in recent years but Kane is younger (and Ottawa will be in Year 2 of our rebuild). What could be added on either side to sweeten the deal? Here's how they compare since Kane entered the league and Michalek joined the Senators (the same year).

Evander Kane:

2009-10 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 66 14 12 26
2010-11 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 73 19 24 43
2011-12 Winnipeg Jets NHL 74 30 27 57

Milan Michalek:

2009-10 Ottawa Senators NHL 66 22 12 34
2010-11 Ottawa Senators NHL 66 18 15 33
2011-12 Ottawa Senators NHL 77 35 25 60

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06-15-2012, 09:42 PM
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If he won't sign here, we're going to flip him for a comparable player. Jeff Skinner, Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, etc. No package of mediocres. Kane is our only top tier talent, and we would trade him in a 1-for-1 for a different top tier player with a bit more class.
If this is truly the case and he doesn't want to be there...Good luck. This could really suck for you guys.

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Ottawa would need to add Zibanejad +

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06-15-2012, 09:45 PM
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Kane is a center/left wing while Michalek is left/right wing. Michalek had a few more points in recent years but Kane is younger. What could be added on either side to sweeten the deal? Here's how they compare since Kane entered the league and Michalek joined the Senators (the same year).

Evander Kane:

2009-10 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 66 14 12 26
2010-11 Atlanta Thrashers NHL 73 19 24 43
2011-12 Winnipeg Jets NHL 74 30 27 57

Milan Michalek:

2009-10 Ottawa Senators NHL 66 22 12 34
2010-11 Ottawa Senators NHL 66 18 15 33
2011-12 Ottawa Senators NHL 77 35 25 60









You want Evander Kane, then make a prospal worth while, we don't your trash. Start with Mika Zibanejad and start adding. Don't think there is too much to this rumor, just the time for these kind of rumors to come out. Let's wait until someone from the Jets or Kane himself says something.

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Ottawa would need to add Zibanejad +

How about Matt Puempel instead?

Edit: Meaning Michalek + Puempel, not just Puempel.


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How about Matt Puempel instead?


Nope. Zibanejad +

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Ottawa would need to add Zibanejad +
Lol troll post.

Let's say Ottawa would never add that and this trade makes no sense for either team

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And it begins....

Mika Z to start
And keep adding

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You want Evander Kane, then make a prospal worth while, we don't your trash. Start with Mika Zibanejad and start adding. Don't think there is too much to this rumor, just the time for these kind of rumors to come out. Let's wait until someone from the Jets or Kane himself says something.
I don't think Michalek is trash. They both have similar numbers. Thing is, Kane is 7 years younger and we are rebuilding, so I did ask what would need to be added to compensate for the age difference.

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