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Kane doesn't want to sign with the Jets? (MOD: All Things E. Kane)

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06-15-2012, 10:07 PM
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2012 1st + Niederreiter + Okposo + 2013 1st (top 5 protected; becomes 2014 1st no restrictions)
DEAL. He's all yours, have fun with him!

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Nothing to get worked up about, but it's HF so God knows that's what will happen. He's an RFA. If the Jets don't want to trade him, they don't have to. They have more power than he does in this situation. At worst he'll hold out until August or September and eventually will end up re-signing.
That's what everyone said about Kyle Turris too.

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Well, I would be prepared to offer Duchene in some sort of deal, but if this were true and he doesnt plan on signing with Winnipeg, your basically just trading for his rights, so I think there would have to be a decent + to Kane for Duchene now.

Would Kane + Enstrom for Duchene + Barrie or Elliott be tempting?

Again, that trade is assuming Kane isnt signing in Winnipeg, if he is willing to sign, then I dont think he gets traded but he and Duchene are pretty close straight up.
What does Kane possibly not willing to sign in Winnipeg have any negative impact the Avs or to his value? He's still a RFA and any team acquiring him has all the leverage.

I would want a + from the Avs in that deal. Kane and Duchene are close and Enstrom is worth more than Elliot or Barrie, even with his 1 year to UFA status.

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Johan Franzen
Tomas Tatar
Jakub Kindl
2013 1st round pick


Evander Kane

How's the value? bad? good? i'm not great at this so tweak as you like, but i don't think this is terrible

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I think its a little early in the summer to be assuming he won't sign. I think it could be a negotating thing. I respect the jets to much to give a lowball offer. I dont think the kings have the young forward the jets would need.If the jets can see any fair offer from the kings i would love to have Kane on the kings.

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To Jets:

Booth, Ballard, 1st rd pick, Schroeder

To Canucks:

Kane
Great talent, but do not want on the canucks. That's the end of that.

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I think its a little early in the summer to be assuming he won't sign. I think it could be a negotating thing. I respect the jets to much to give a lowball offer. I dont think the kings have the young forward the jets would need.If the jets can see any fair offer from the kings i would love to have Kane on the kings.
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I had a feeling this was going to happen. Winnipeg just isn't a city a guy like E. Kane would live in - and that's not a chirp against Winnipeg; it's a chirp against Kane.

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Johan Franzen
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Jakub Kindl
2013 1st round pick


Evander Kane

How's the value? bad? good? i'm not great at this so tweak as you like, but i don't think this is terrible

Don't want to trade with the Wings, the players on the wings are only good in Detroits system. If he is being traded then a team like the islanders would be a much better team cause they high pick and lots of good young players and they might overpay.

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I had a feeling this was going to happen. Winnipeg just isn't a city a guy like E. Kane would live in - and that's not a chirp against Winnipeg; it's a chirp against Kane.
Thank you for understanding.

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Don't want to trade with the Wings, the players on the wings are only good in Detroits system. If he is being traded then a team like the islanders would be a much better team cause they high pick and lots of good young players and they might overpay.
I don't get this. Where is the evidence for this? Leino is terrible in detroit, thrives elsewhere. Whitney is terrible in detroit, thrives elsewhere. quincey is terrible in detroit, thrives elsewhere, then comes back and is again terrible in detroit.

where are the players that are 'only good in detroit's system'?

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2012 1st + Niederreiter + Okposo + 2013 1st (top 5 protected; becomes 2014 1st no restrictions)
Holy ****, Winnipeg takes this and runs I think the Isles could remove 2013 first.

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Johan Franzen
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Jakub Kindl
2013 1st round pick


Evander Kane

How's the value? bad? good? i'm not great at this so tweak as you like, but i don't think this is terrible
Don't want anything to do with Franzen or Kindl in a Kane deal.

Think multiples of Smith, Nyqvist, Jarnkrok, Tatar, etc.

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What does Kane possibly not willing to sign in Winnipeg have any negative impact the Avs or to his value? He's still a RFA and any team acquiring him has all the leverage.

I would want a + from the Avs in that deal. Kane and Duchene are close and Enstrom is worth more than Elliot or Barrie, even with his 1 year to UFA status.
If he isnt willing to resign then the Jets would basically have to trade him, I mean would you rather he sit there and not help at all, or trade him, get soe good pieces in return that actually want to play for the Jets?

Its simple really, if he doesnt want to sign with the Jets then they dont really have a whole lot of choice, yes he's an RFA and yes they could make him sit, but that would do more harm then good.

For the record, I dont really believe this rumor, its from shaky sources and kinda out of no were, but if it were found to be true, theres no doubt it decreases Kanes value by at least a little.

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Don't want anything to do with Franzen or Kindl in a Kane deal.

Think multiples of Smith, Nyqvist, Jarnkrok, Tatar, etc.
Nyquist + Tatar + 2013 1st + 2013 2nd?

I like Kane's game, and feel like his grit is something the Wings really need. But giving up Nyquist really stings

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Holy ****, Winnipeg takes this and runs I think the Isles could remove 2013 first.
Do you seriously think Snow would put that offer on the table?

2 first rounders+Nino+ KO?

let's not confuse fans with actual gms

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If he won't sign here, we're going to flip him for a comparable player. Jeff Skinner, Jamie Benn, Tyler Seguin, Taylor Hall, etc. No package of mediocres. Kane is our only top tier talent, and we would trade him in a 1-for-1 for a different top tier player with a bit more class.


Man, you're going to be disappointed.

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2012 1st + Niederreiter + Okposo + 2013 1st (top 5 protected; becomes 2014 1st no restrictions)
What ever you are smoking,must be pretty darn strong.

You've confused Snow with Milbury

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Holy ****, Winnipeg takes this and runs I think the Isles could remove 2013 first.
Not with the chance that Nino is a bust.

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So much for anything realistic being proposed...That NYI offer takes the cake.

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To Calgary
Kane
2nd

To Winnipeg
Bouwmeester
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To Calgary
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2nd

To Winnipeg
Bouwmeester
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Start with Backlund and Baertschi, I think....

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Not with the chance that Nino is a bust.
1 bad year on the fourth line doesn't mean he is a bust and every prospect could be a bust.

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If he isnt willing to resign then the Jets would basically have to trade him, I mean would you rather he sit there and not help at all, or trade him, get soe good pieces in return that actually want to play for the Jets?

Its simple really, if he doesnt want to sign with the Jets then they dont really have a whole lot of choice, yes he's an RFA and yes they could make him sit, but that would do more harm then good.

For the record, I dont really believe this rumor, its from shaky sources and kinda out of no were, but if it were found to be true, theres no doubt it decreases Kanes value by at least a little.
So you think he would stay home and not make millions of dollars instead of playing with the Jets?

And there are 28 other teams in the league besides the Avalanche.

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Start with Backlund and Baertschi, I think....
Baertschi has a higher ceiling than Kane. Not a chance. Backlund can be included.

Calgary
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