HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Central Division > Colorado Avalanche
Notices

EA sport NHL13 Player ratings for the Avs.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-14-2012, 03:44 PM
  #1
finds71
Registered User
 
finds71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Country: France
Posts: 638
vCash: 500
EA sport NHL13 Player ratings for the Avs.

Everything is in the title





Paul Stastny - 86 [v] (vs nhl 12)
Matt Duchene - 86 [v]
Erik Johnson - 85 [v]
Gabriel Landeskog - 85 [^]
Semion Varlamov - 85 [^]
Ryan O'Reilly - 84 [^]
Steve Downie - 84 [=]
Peter Mueller -84 [=]
David Jones - 83 [^]
Shane O'Brien - 83 [^]
Milan Hejduk - 83 [v]
Jamie McGinn - 83 [^]
Jan Hejda-83 [=]
Jean-Sébastien Giguère -83 [^]
Ryan O'Byrne - 82 [^]
Ryan Wilson -82 [^]
Stefan Elliott - 82 [^]
Tyson Barrie -81 [^]
Mark Olver -81 [^]
Matt Hunwick - 81 [^]
Cody McLeod -80 [^]
Chuck Kobasew -80 [v]
Kevin Porter -79 [v]

finds71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 03:48 PM
  #2
BrickAHL
#NotUs
 
BrickAHL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,791
vCash: 432
Quote:
Originally Posted by finds71 View Post
Shane O'Brien - 83 [^]


BrickAHL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 03:49 PM
  #3
Muffin
Avalanche Flavoured
 
Muffin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Edmonton
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,642
vCash: 500
Are these official or just predictions?

Muffin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 04:02 PM
  #4
finds71
Registered User
 
finds71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Country: France
Posts: 638
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muffin View Post
Are these official or just predictions?
prediction

finds71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 04:14 PM
  #5
GamingGiant
Registered User
 
GamingGiant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Colorado
Country: United States
Posts: 2,635
vCash: 500
I highly doubt that every player, except Porter, will be rated over 80.

GamingGiant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 04:16 PM
  #6
KingSizeKirby
#WhyNotUs?
 
KingSizeKirby's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Windsor, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 625
vCash: 50
I'll take a crack at it.

Paul Stastny - 86
Matt Duchene - 86
Erik Johnson - 86
Gabriel Landeskog - 85
Semion Varlamov - 85
Ryan O'Reilly - 85
Steve Downie - 83
Peter Mueller -83
David Jones - 83
Shane O'Brien - 81
Milan Hejduk - 83
Jamie McGinn - 82
Jan Hejda-83
Jean-Sébastien Giguère -83
Ryan O'Byrne - 82
Ryan Wilson -82
Stefan Elliott - 80
Tyson Barrie -79
Mark Olver -80
Matt Hunwick - 79
Cody McLeod -79
Chuck Kobasew -80
Kevin Porter -79

KingSizeKirby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 04:16 PM
  #7
skip2mybordeleau
Sign O'Reilly
 
skip2mybordeleau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,790
vCash: 50
olver elliot and barrie will definitely not be over 80

elliot -77
barrie-76
olver-76

skip2mybordeleau is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 04:27 PM
  #8
Pierce Hawthorne
Formerly Avsare1
 
Pierce Hawthorne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Caverns of Draconis
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,440
vCash: 500
Way way way wayyyyy to high on the Defense Prospects. Actually to high in general for alot of those players.

Barrie and Elliot havent even played 50 games in the NHL yet, they wont be anywere near an 81 or 82. McGinn had hist firs 20/30 point season, not even close to numbers of an 83. Downie is a bit to high(also wasnt an 84 in NHL 12, was an 82). Jones had a worse year then last year, no way he goes up either.

Heres what Im guessing we'll see.

McGinn(81) - Stastny(87**) - Jones(82)
Landeskog(85*) - Oreilly(85) - Downie(83)
Hejduk(82) - Duchene(85**) - Mueller(82)
McCleod(80) - Olver(79) - Kobasew(79)

Suter(88) - EJ(85**)
Hejda(81) - Wilson(83)
Obyrne(81) - Hunwick(79)

Varly(85**)
Giggy(83)

* - Landys overall will be dependant on the Caler, it he wins it, he gets an 85, if he loses only an 83(This shouldnt be the case, but rewards and crap like that make a difference unfortunatly, personally I would have him simply an 84, but I dont think EA sees it that way).

** - Now, in pass 2 EA games, 86's havent been used untill the final roster update were they change overalls. I excpect them to do the same this year(To me, its like 85-87 is the gap between good player and Star player, and 85 is good, but an 97 is a star, and I kinda like it like that). If they keep it this way, I think Stas is an 87, while Duchene, EJ, and Varly all get 85's. BUT if they decide to change that so players can be an 86, then I think we see Stas come down to an 86, while EJ, Duchene, Varly all go up to an 86.

Also some prospects and what I think they'll be. I would include A/B/C potential, but theyre not doing that in 13, theyre trying something new, so we'll find out what that knew is haha!

Barrie(76, becomes a 79 in first update if he starts with big club)
Elliott(76, becomes a 78 if with Big club
Gaunce(74, becomes 80 if with Avs)
Hishon(71 with lots of potential, if he by miracle makes big club, 77)
Sgarbossa(75, 79 if with Avs)
Siemens(72, back in the CHL)
Connolly(77)


Thats my guesses for overalls, NHL 12 is practically my video game life, pretty much the only thing I play haha.

Pierce Hawthorne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 04:35 PM
  #9
GamingGiant
Registered User
 
GamingGiant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Colorado
Country: United States
Posts: 2,635
vCash: 500
EA typically tends to under value players. With that in mind:

Paul Stastny - 86
Matt Duchene - 84
Erik Johnson - 84
Gabriel Landeskog - 84
Semion Varlamov - 84
Ryan O'Reilly - 84
Steve Downie - 82
Peter Mueller -82
David Jones - 82
Milan Hejduk - 82
Jamie McGinn - 80
Jan Hejda-80
Jean-Sébastien Giguère -82
Ryan O'Byrne - 80
Ryan Wilson -82
Stefan Elliott - 77
Tyson Barrie -76
Mark Olver -76
Matt Hunwick - 78
Cody McLeod -77
Chuck Kobasew -77
Kevin Porter -76

GamingGiant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 09:27 PM
  #10
Kloparren
Hth
 
Kloparren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,449
vCash: 500
These are the NHL 2004 Rebuilt PC mod off-season roster overall attributes for the Avs. They're on a different scale from the NHL 13 rosters. They're also designed with past seasons and next season in mind so prestige plays a factor (hence Duchene having a high rating despite injuries/struggles).

The scale:
Star players are 78+ usually.
Good 2nd liners are 72+
4th liners who play a regular NHL role are around 68-
Prospects with decent potential and not much experience are usually 68-70 (eg Olver)
Top pairing dmen are 72-76 with some of the stars being 77+ (Chara and Weber are the highest at around 80)
Bottom pairing dmen are usually 67-69

*Olver can be anywhere b/t 67-70, hard to read.
*73 might be a little high for McGinn but I think he'll prove it this season
*Stastny used to be 76 before I think, was reduced
*72 is low for Hejduk but I don't see him bouncing back very well, he was a 75 at the start of the season
*the dmen ratings are quite poor but it's a team that missed the playoffs.
*Downie will probably be higher with another 20 goal season and tough minutes.
*Mueller was a 73 before this season, was decreased...he can be a 74-76 guy if he bounces back



Kloparren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 09:45 PM
  #11
Pierce Hawthorne
Formerly Avsare1
 
Pierce Hawthorne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Caverns of Draconis
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,440
vCash: 500
If they were to add 10 to everyone of those Overally I think they would actually be pretty good.

Biggest problem with the Ratings in NHL 12 is that everyone is so high that the difference between a 3 liner and a 1/2nd liner is so small, its almost non existent.

The way I think they should be done are like this:

Elite players: 95+(Probably on Malkin, Crosby, Stamkos, maybe Giroux in this group)
Star/Star #1s players: 89-92(Think Kovy, Kopitar, Parise, Chara, Toews, etc.)
Top Line/Pairing players: 84-87(Stastny, Duchene, Benn, Havlat, Burns, Phaneouf etc)
2nd Line/Pairing players: 80-83(Downie, Jones, Demers, Brassard, Eller, Laich, etc)
3rd Line/Pairing guys: 76-79(McClement, Olver, Winnik, Galiardi, Obyrne, Gill, etc)
4th Line guys: 72-75(McCleod, Eager, Kobasew etc.)

This way theres a large gap between a Top line talents and a true elite player, and a 4th line NHL/AHL Tweener.

But, I think higher ratings get people more excited, they would rather see there full team as 80+ guys then only 5 or 6 guys at that level.

Pierce Hawthorne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 09:48 PM
  #12
BrickAHL
#NotUs
 
BrickAHL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,791
vCash: 432
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avsare1 View Post
If they were to add 10 to everyone of those Overally I think they would actually be pretty good.

Biggest problem with the Ratings in NHL 12 is that everyone is so high that the difference between a 3 liner and a 1/2nd liner is so small, its almost non existent.

The way I think they should be done are like this:

Elite players: 95+(Probably on Malkin, Crosby, Stamkos, maybe Giroux in this group)
Star/Star #1s players: 89-92(Think Kovy, Kopitar, Parise, Chara, Toews, etc.)
Top Line/Pairing players: 84-87(Stastny, Duchene, Benn, Havlat, Burns, Phaneouf etc)
2nd Line/Pairing players: 80-83(Downie, Jones, Demers, Brassard, Eller, Laich, etc)
3rd Line/Pairing guys: 76-79(McClement, Olver, Winnik, Galiardi, Obyrne, Gill, etc)
4th Line guys: 72-75(McCleod, Eager, Kobasew etc.)

This way theres a large gap between a Top line talents and a true elite player, and a 4th line NHL/AHL Tweener.

But, I think higher ratings get people more excited, they would rather see there full team as 80+ guys then only 5 or 6 guys at that level.
That's how I do it when I make my own ratings.

BrickAHL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2012, 10:35 PM
  #13
shadow1
Registered User
 
shadow1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 11,267
vCash: 1210
Stastny (86), Duchene (86), O'Reilly (85), Olver (76)
Landeskog (84), Mueller (82), McGinn (80), McLeod (79)
Jones (83), Downie (82), Hejduk (82), Kobasew (80)

Johnson (85), Hejda (82), Wilson (82), O'Byrne (81), Hunwick (79), Elliott (78), Barrie (76)

Varlamov (84), Giguere (82)

shadow1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 10:51 AM
  #14
Zingbo2133
Registered User
 
Zingbo2133's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: London, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,830
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrickAHL View Post
Haha **** that actually made me lol

Zingbo2133 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 03:45 PM
  #15
Razor29
52-22-8
 
Razor29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,107
vCash: 50
EA is changing the way they do the stats. Won't matter much I bet.

Paul Stastny - 86
Matt Duchene - 86
Erik Johnson - 87
Gabriel Landeskog - 85
Semion Varlamov - 85
Ryan O'Reilly - 84
Steve Downie - 81
Peter Mueller -82
David Jones - 84
Shane O'Brien - 79
Milan Hejduk - 80
Jamie McGinn - 81
Jan Hejda-83
Jean-Sébastien Giguère -83
Ryan O'Byrne - 81
Ryan Wilson -80
Stefan Elliott - 79
Tyson Barrie -77
Mark Olver -78
Matt Hunwick - 78
Cody McLeod -77
Chuck Kobasew -78
Kevin Porter -77

Razor29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 03:56 PM
  #16
finds71
Registered User
 
finds71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Country: France
Posts: 638
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Landeskogien View Post
EA is changing the way they do the stats. Won't matter much I bet.

Paul Stastny - 86
Matt Duchene - 86
Erik Johnson - 87
Gabriel Landeskog - 85
Semion Varlamov - 85
Ryan O'Reilly - 84
Steve Downie - 81
Peter Mueller -82
David Jones - 84
Shane O'Brien - 79
Milan Hejduk - 80
Jamie McGinn - 81
Jan Hejda-83
Jean-Sébastien Giguère -83
Ryan O'Byrne - 81
Ryan Wilson -80
Stefan Elliott - 79
Tyson Barrie -77
Mark Olver -78
Matt Hunwick - 78
Cody McLeod -77
Chuck Kobasew -78
Kevin Porter -77
EJ is one of my favorite players, but 87 is I think overrated. Even at 85 I thought I had been generous. After looking at his stats he is closer to 84 than 87.
I also beleive that his potential will drop a bit

finds71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 05:18 PM
  #17
Razor29
52-22-8
 
Razor29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,107
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by finds71 View Post
EJ is one of my favorite players, but 87 is I think overrated. Even at 85 I thought I had been generous. After looking at his stats he is closer to 84 than 87.
I also beleive that his potential will drop a bit
Have you seen his rating in the last game?

It was an 87 last year and he was better this previous season..

Razor29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 05:30 PM
  #18
finds71
Registered User
 
finds71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Canada
Country: France
Posts: 638
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Landeskogien View Post
Have you seen his rating in the last game?

It was an 87 last year and he was better this previous season..
Overall I think he was better in the second half of the season, the first half he really looked like last year. I beleive that EA are overrating him because he was 1st draft pick overall. That being said, again I like the player and I still beleive that he will be our top defensman for years to come, but to be fair, if you just look at his statistics he hasn`t improved over the past 3 seasons, and I beleive that this is something EA will look at.

finds71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 06:39 PM
  #19
Pierce Hawthorne
Formerly Avsare1
 
Pierce Hawthorne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Caverns of Draconis
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,440
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by finds71 View Post
Overall I think he was better in the second half of the season, the first half he really looked like last year. I beleive that EA are overrating him because he was 1st draft pick overall. That being said, again I like the player and I still beleive that he will be our top defensman for years to come, but to be fair, if you just look at his statistics he hasn`t improved over the past 3 seasons, and I beleive that this is something EA will look at.
If he loses his potential he wont go down in Overall.

If EA were doing the A/B/C thing for potential next year EJ would be either an 87 with like B-/C/C Potential(Basically is what he is) or he would be an 84/85 with B/B-/B- potential(Would end up being an 88ish).

It would likely be one or the other, either goes down in Overalls but maintains potential, or Maintains overall but loses potential.

Pierce Hawthorne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 06:44 PM
  #20
Ceremony
Stanley Cup Attitude
 
Ceremony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 70,503
vCash: 499
The last game I had was NHL 09, has the player growth improved any? I never seemed to notice any difference from season to season with most of my players.

Ceremony is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 06:52 PM
  #21
Pierce Hawthorne
Formerly Avsare1
 
Pierce Hawthorne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Caverns of Draconis
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,440
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony View Post
The last game I had was NHL 09, has the player growth improved any? I never seemed to notice any difference from season to season with most of my players.
Well it depends, it hasnt really changed in the last couple years, and NHL 09 was so long ago that I cant really remember what its sysem was like. But in NHL 12, a player thats say an 80 Overall with B-/B/B- for ex. would probably end up being an 85-87. But they could also end up not going anywere.

Ive also seen players in 12 that get drafted as say a 75 Overall with like A-/B/A Potential, but end up busting. They have a good first year and go to like a 77 or 78 overall, but then there potential completely drops to like C/C/B- and they generally dont increase any furthur then that.

Pierce Hawthorne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 10:46 PM
  #22
danmcn12
Radioactive
 
danmcn12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Boston
Posts: 3,457
vCash: 500
Most of what you said seems close enough, but Barrie will probably be a 72 with high potential and Elliot a 75 with really high potential.

danmcn12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-15-2012, 10:47 PM
  #23
danmcn12
Radioactive
 
danmcn12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Boston
Posts: 3,457
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Landeskogien View Post
Have you seen his rating in the last game?

It was an 87 last year and he was better this previous season..
He is also a DFD. DFD, TWF(I think), and grinders generally have higher then expected ratings.

danmcn12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 01:35 AM
  #24
Razor29
52-22-8
 
Razor29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,107
vCash: 50
You guys are putting too much thought into a game EA has put very little into.

Razor29 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-16-2012, 09:11 AM
  #25
InjuredChoker
Registered User
 
InjuredChoker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: LTIR or golf course
Posts: 17,085
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ceremony View Post
The last game I had was NHL 09, has the player growth improved any? I never seemed to notice any difference from season to season with most of my players.
It has, it is totally different system now. In 09, ratings changed mostly depending how good the team was.

InjuredChoker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:26 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.