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06-16-2012, 06:33 PM
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Good, now downgrade him to a 4th line position and add another tough bottom 6 player through free agency (Gaustad hopefully).

Moen - Gaustad - White


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Good, now downgrade him to a 4th line position and add another tough bottom 6 player through free agency (Gaustad hopefully).

Moen - Gaustad - White

I think you underestimate how much those two will sign for. Not worth having both of them on the team imo.

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He get his length and we get the solid cap hit, best of both worlds.

Put a few incentives in there if he can produce, and if he can't he'll be an easy asset to trade.

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i think he can play a top 9 role if he played on a line like

Moen - Eller - Gionta

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I'd be more interested in McClement than Gaustad who I think will sign for too much.

Moen-McClement-White would be a very solid fourth line.

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06-16-2012, 08:53 PM
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i think he can play a top 9 role if he played on a line like

Moen - Eller - Gionta
I used to like the Moen-Gomez-Gionta line.

And I think Eller would be an even better fit there.

But then the question is, who is playing in the top 6?

My personal hope next year is that the DD/Pacio/Cole line is separated, it makes the top 6 and top 9 depth options much more enticing.

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06-16-2012, 09:02 PM
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Personally I'd keep Cole and Desharnais together and would put Plekanec and Pacioretty together.

I know Pacioretty and Desharnais have good chemistry, but I think that Cole plays more a big brotehr role and it benefits Desharnais better. Also, Plekanec deserve someone like Pacioretty after the crap season he had to go through.

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Personally I'd keep Cole and Desharnais together and would put Plekanec and Pacioretty together.

I know Pacioretty and Desharnais have good chemistry, but I think that Cole plays more a big brotehr role and it benefits Desharnais better. Also, Plekanec deserve someone like Pacioretty after the crap season he had to go through.
I think so.

But let's wait what Bergevin can do to get at least one decent winger for Plekky.

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Personally I'd keep Cole and Desharnais together and would put Plekanec and Pacioretty together.

I know Pacioretty and Desharnais have good chemistry, but I think that Cole plays more a big brotehr role and it benefits Desharnais better. Also, Plekanec deserve someone like Pacioretty after the crap season he had to go through.
Bourque-Plekanec-Cole
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Palushaj
Moen-Eller-Gionta
White-McClement-Geoffrion/Blunden

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Bourque-Plekanec-Cole
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Palushaj
Moen-Eller-Gionta
White-McClement-Geoffrion/Staubitz
Replaced Blunden for Staubitz for personal taste. Not that it makes much of a difference....

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06-16-2012, 09:19 PM
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Replaced Blunden for Staubitz for personal taste. Not that it makes much of a difference....
I know people will shudder about Palushaj that high, but he had great success with those 2 in the AHL and he's at an age and point in his career where the Habs really should give him a shot.

And i know people will shudder even more about Bourque that high, but I think Bourque possesses many of the same qualities Pacio has. Size, speed, decent shot.

Gives the habs 3 lines that could be their best any night.

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06-16-2012, 09:52 PM
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I know people will shudder about Palushaj that high, but he had great success with those 2 in the AHL and he's at an age and point in his career where the Habs really should give him a shot.

And i know people will shudder even more about Bourque that high, but I think Bourque possesses many of the same qualities Pacio has. Size, speed, decent shot.

Gives the habs 3 lines that could be their best any night.
I don't know what to make of Bourque really. Horrible performance since he joined us, but other than the DD trio, nobody really played well under RC. I'll give him a pass for the performance, but I don't think he's suited to play on the top line with the tougher duties. I believe he needs to be used like DD was under Martin, get him the most offensive zone starts as possible.


I have no problem with Palushaj getting a shot. I think it's completely stupid to call up a skilled top 6 forward from the AHL only to put him on the 4th line here. Really, what's the point in that?
Give him skilled linemates as well, otherwise he'll be useless.

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06-16-2012, 09:58 PM
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I know people will shudder about Palushaj that high, but he had great success with those 2 in the AHL and he's at an age and point in his career where the Habs really should give him a shot.

And i know people will shudder even more about Bourque that high, but I think Bourque possesses many of the same qualities Pacio has. Size, speed, decent shot.

Gives the habs 3 lines that could be their best any night.
I don't have a problem with Palushaj being on the second line early in the season, that's usually where rookies performs. Once he slows down you can always remove some ice time and provide it to some other veteran who can handle the strain better.

I also would like to see what Palushaj can do on a good line, he was rather handling himself well by the end of the season and being stuck on the 4th line didn't do him justice.

Bourque is like Pouliot 2.0 in my opinion. Maybe his switch will turn back on, but it might not either... If somehow he can produce 15 goals per season I'll be happy, anothing above will be a bonus.

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06-16-2012, 11:22 PM
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Good, now downgrade him to a 4th line position and add another tough bottom 6 player through free agency (Gaustad hopefully).

Moen - Gaustad - White

Ok Gaustad? Tough? Is this the same guy who when playing for Buffalo let his goalie (Miller) get run over by Lucic and t did nothing tough? Or the same guy who took on Lucic on his next game against Boston and had his head handed to him tough? Really I honestly think Colton Orr is tougher then Gaustad Rosehill is for sure lol

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06-16-2012, 11:37 PM
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I don't have a problem with Palushaj being on the second line early in the season, that's usually where rookies performs. Once he slows down you can always remove some ice time and provide it to some other veteran who can handle the strain better.

I also would like to see what Palushaj can do on a good line, he was rather handling himself well by the end of the season and being stuck on the 4th line didn't do him justice.

Bourque is like Pouliot 2.0 in my opinion. Maybe his switch will turn back on, but it might not either... If somehow he can produce 15 goals per season I'll be happy, anothing above will be a bonus.
I don't get the Pouliot comparison, he never accomplished anything in his life.

Bourque averages 21.9 goals per 82 games played in his career. In 470 games.

Good coaching and the right line and I can't see why he can't do that next year, and probably match that number in assists as well. One season doesn't define a career.

Nice to see another who agrees on Palushaj.

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06-16-2012, 11:48 PM
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If Moen is really working on the fart at 30 years old NHL vet and already a multi-millionaire, I would give him 4 years 20 million

This team needs to get more farmer and less Gomez
I am most intrigued.

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The guy has heart, skill, and he's a tank. What other requisites are required for a bottom 6 player? Keep Moen

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The guy has heart, skill, and he's a tank. What other requisites are required for a bottom 6 player? Keep Moen
While I like Moen as much as everyone here, "not asking for the moon" is a pretty big requisite for a bottom 6 player. I'd be fine with giving him anything under $2M per year.

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06-17-2012, 02:16 AM
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Hope he gets signed. You win cups with guys like him.

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Damn right! They should want to keep Moen, an effective 3rd liner who isn't a liability in his own zone! I expect a similar deal to the one he signed 3 years ago. 3 years, 4.5 million.

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Huuuuuuuuuge fan of Moen (you have to sign him...have to).
2 more years+.

Moen...82 games.
White 82 games.
Staubitz...40-50 games+ (especially against Boston, Toronto,etc)

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Ok Gaustad? Tough? Is this the same guy who when playing for Buffalo let his goalie (Miller) get run over by Lucic and t did nothing tough? Or the same guy who took on Lucic on his next game against Boston and had his head handed to him tough? Really I honestly think Colton Orr is tougher then Gaustad Rosehill is for sure lol
Yes, but Gaustad is an actual NHL player.

I guess you also think Lucic isn't tough, afterall he's the guy who let Marc Savard have his career finished by Matt Cooke and did nothing...

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And yet, Randy Jones was given 4M$/per year

Chris Kelly 3M$ per year.
Are those supposed to be comparables?

Randy Jones is a pending ufa whose last contract was for just over a million for one year. I'm guessing you mean David Jones? David Jones has 47 goals over the past two seasons.

Chris Kelly's least productive season in the nhl was 2 points better than Moen's best ever season. If you're going to compare Moen to a Bruin ufa then Gregory Campbell is a much closer fit. He just re-signed for 3 years @ 1.6million.

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Damn right! They should want to keep Moen, an effective 3rd liner who isn't a liability in his own zone! I expect a similar deal to the one he signed 3 years ago. 3 years, 4.5 million.
If thats the case then fine , but if he gets close or more than 2m per, its an overpayment imho. I will also say this : this guy sat on the last contract we gave him and he hustled when he was a pending UFA, not sure I'd give him more than 2 years. I personally wouldn't compensate for lower terms by giving him more years ...

2 years , 3m ... take it or leave.If you see him as a GREAT room guy, give him 2m per not a penny more.

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I'd give him 2 millions for one year or 3M for two.

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