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Islanders Targeting Possible Defensemen via trade

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06-18-2012, 05:17 AM
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06-18-2012, 05:50 AM
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No joke. I'd even go as far as this, since it is the Habs "Francophone Uprising" we're talking about:

To MTL: Rights to P.A. Parenteau, 4th overall pick, 3rd rounder

To NYI: P.K. Subban, 4th rounder.


I wonder how quickly Bergevin would give a polite "Non." if we gave him an extra pick and the first crack at a Quebecer UFA Forward.


Lol we already made the worse trade ever with gomez we learned our lesson this is a terrible trade offer subban is worth a lot more then your 4th,if we want parenteau that bad we'll wait till july 1rst.

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06-18-2012, 05:52 AM
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Islanders want P.K. The way that happens is if the return hurts them.
P.K and the 3rd OA for Tarvares and the 4thOA.
That or forget P.K..
I'm quite happy keeping P.K and drafting the 3rd OA.

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06-18-2012, 08:05 AM
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LOL.....no one needs to get insulting or anything. That, and I'll be much more happy keeping Tavares.

End thread.

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06-18-2012, 08:53 AM
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Islanders want P.K. The way that happens is if the return hurts them.
P.K and the 3rd OA for Tarvares and the 4thOA.
That or forget P.K..
I'm quite happy keeping P.K and drafting the 3rd OA.
With Hamonic in your proposal instead of Tavares, at least it would have an air of rationality. But no, you had to dive right off the deep end.

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06-18-2012, 08:54 AM
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Islanders want P.K. The way that happens is if the return hurts them.
P.K and the 3rd OA for Tarvares and the 4thOA.
That or forget P.K..
I'm quite happy keeping P.K and drafting the 3rd OA.

Pk would not get you JT


The whole point of the deal is to make JT happy and bring his friend PK to the Island......

Otherwise Snow could easily land a D man that is overpaid that a team wants to unload......My guess is Ballard for a 2nd rd pick and minor prospect....


Getting the rights to PA, Calvin DeHaan, and a 2nd is decent return for PK....If The 2nd rd pick is to become the 4th over all....The Habs would have to give back 2nd rd pick number 33 overall.


But Pa.....almost 70 points ......Calvin.......and number 34 overall is good return

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06-18-2012, 08:54 AM
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Would any of the Islander fans be interested in Luke Schenn?
Would you be interested to play Schenn?

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06-18-2012, 09:11 AM
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06-18-2012, 09:17 AM
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Michalek's $4 million per season salary is unworkable, then what exactly *is* workable for Garth Snow?

If I'm reading your posts correctly, his criteria (or one you're ascribing to him) is:
-must be a legitimate top four D
-must be signed to a long term deal (ie. more than 5 years)
-must make less than, what, $4 million per year? $3 million per year?

Each one of Ballard,Martin and Michalek have 3 yrs on their deal,at $4m-$5m per.Each is playing disappointing hockey.Maybe their play and the lengths of their contracts are the turnoffs for Snow.


Staples writes that Snow will look for like another Wiz situation:a team with a bad,short term contract.



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I honestly think your criteria is a bit unrealistic. Top four defensemen make over $4 million a year. The only ones that don't are guys still on their ELC deals, or their first RFA deals. And those guys tend to be highly coveted by their own team, and would cost an overpayment to acquire (ie. Subban, Pietrangelo, etc.).

With SJ trading for Stuart,the press is saying Murray could be the odd man out.
Darcy Regher says he wants the Sabres to get bigger/tougher.Is he interested in the NYI's Lee + 2nd for Leopold who's a ufa in 2013?

Both make in the $2.5m-$3m range.

Snow's top 4 addition does not have to be an elite defenseman.Was Erhoff elite when Snow tried getting him?

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If that truly is the criteria Snow has for who he will target, then the Isles will be going into next season with guys like Staios, Jurcina, and Eaton again taking up their 4, 5, and 6 spot in their defense
Aside from bringing in a top 4,the NY press says the Isles want Staios back and will have at least 1 of the Bridgeport young defenseman on the roster.

Streit
Hamonic
MacDonald
???????
Staios
De Haan,Donovan,Ness or Katic
?????

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3rd 2013


Keith Ballard
How about I pick Ballard up at the airport?

By airport, I mean Vancouver International.

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06-18-2012, 09:19 AM
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Would any of the Islander fans be interested in Luke Schenn?
Snow had enough questions about Schenn in 2008,to pass on drafting him.

He's now making $3.6m per,playing on the 3rd pairing.

I'd say it's very unlikely Snow's making a run at Schenn.

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06-18-2012, 02:43 PM
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With Hamonic in your proposal instead of Tavares, at least it would have an air of rationality. But no, you had to dive right off the deep end.
i understand that pk does not get you jt. but yours isn't much better... we give up a spot and downgrade?

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06-18-2012, 02:56 PM
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This thread has made me realize that MTL could have had one of the best young D pairings in the game


Ryan MCD- PK Subban....


That would of been a crazy pair.....



ok Back OT...Can we all please stop with " hes good friends with" or " they grew up together"...


All these guys are pretty much friends, from playing in juniors together, national teams, camps, and so on....

Its a Buisness, you try to get the best player you can that can improve your team.


The Isles are not getting PK Subban... I would love him here and would carry him on my back from MTL to LI if we could get him but No one in thier rite mind is Trading a 22 year old stud defensman without getting somthing major in return.


Now if the Islanders had a Carter or a Nash that would be a different story, but we dont have those types of players to give up....So we are going to have to stick it out,draft well, and hope that garth can pull off a few trades for some solid veteran defensman now that we have a deep enough prospect pool to do so.

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06-18-2012, 02:59 PM
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Snow had enough questions about Schenn in 2008,to pass on drafting him.

He's now making $3.6m per,playing on the 3rd pairing.

I'd say it's very unlikely Snow's making a run at Schenn.
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Would you be interested to play Schenn?
Thanks for the response guys, just curious cause if the Canucks do infact have to take on Schenn in a deal I'm looking to deal him right away.

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06-18-2012, 03:08 PM
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NYI should be talking to DW cause Douglas Murray could be the best deal right now with the Brad Stuart signing.

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06-18-2012, 03:14 PM
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The Islanders aren't likely to find any defensemen on the UFA market who will sign with them. Therefore, it's only via trade, and Snow just doesn't seem to like to make trades. Is it money? Is it not being confident? Is it that he doesn't really know what he's doing?

There's just a combination of things that make finding a player a difficult thing to do, especially the Islanders. Who's going to realistically OK a trade? At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if players started saying they won't show up (already happened with Nabokov).

Snow, and the Islanders, have to start getting serious about winning hockey games or all of this talk will be for nothing.

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06-18-2012, 03:21 PM
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NYI should be talking to DW cause Douglas Murray could be the best deal right now with the Brad Stuart signing.
I'd love to get Murray, opposite Donovan on the third pairing. Still need another guy, preferably a righty to play with Streit.

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06-18-2012, 03:23 PM
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Islanders want P.K. The way that happens is if the return hurts them.
P.K and the 3rd OA for Tarvares and the 4thOA.
That or forget P.K..
I'm quite happy keeping P.K and drafting the 3rd OA.
Haha! Maybe if you threw in Price they would at least think about it.

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06-18-2012, 03:25 PM
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NYI should be talking to DW cause Douglas Murray could be the best deal right now with the Brad Stuart signing.
I agree with this 100%....

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NYI should be talking to DW cause Douglas Murray could be the best deal right now with the Brad Stuart signing.


Would Anders Lee + 2012 3rd get Murray in an Isles uniform?

Streit - Hamonic
D. Murray - R. Murray
AMac - Whoever

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D.Murray to NYI

With SJ signing Stuart, would they be willing to Trade away Murray.

What would NYI have to send to SJ?



2012 4th + Anders Lee's rites for Murray?

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With SJ signing Stuart, would they be willing to Trade away Murray.

What would NYI have to send to SJ?

2012 4th + Anders Lee's rites for Murray?
Anders Lee has basically no value because he has already said he is staying in college for at least one more year yet a team has to sign him or lose his rights.

The price for Murray is high to mid 2nd rounder + a decent forward prospect. A better prospect may drop the pick a bit. The Sharks have NO NEED for defensive or goalie prospects. A natural RW is preferred over centers or LW.

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