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06-18-2012, 02:27 PM
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Would be interested in one of Ribeiro, Ryder, and Ott.
You want Ribeiro? Done.
Ryder? I'd be hesitant unless we were 100% certain Chiasson was ready.
Ott... well I'm on the fence there. I'd add to the deal to get another third liner off Vancouver...

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06-18-2012, 02:48 PM
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You want Ribeiro? Done.
Ryder? I'd be hesitant unless we were 100% certain Chiasson was ready.
Ott... well I'm on the fence there. I'd add to the deal to get another third liner off Vancouver...
There has been some Robidas to Vancouver discussion for the past few months, but if I read the situation correctly, the Cannucks covet Ott becuase they need 3rd line players, and Pahlsson signing with Modo probably doesn't help.

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You want Ribeiro? Done.
Ryder? I'd be hesitant unless we were 100% certain Chiasson was ready.
Ott... well I'm on the fence there. I'd add to the deal to get another third liner off Vancouver...
Schenn is at the ripe age to learn now in a team like Dallas, where they're likely to go down a mini rebuild with most of there core closer to the end/twilight of there careers.

Would you guys be interested in..

Schenn, Raymond(your 2nd/3rd line tweener) Mcnally(D) or Grenier(F), and a 1st in 2012 or 2013 for Ott and Ryder?

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06-18-2012, 02:58 PM
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Schenn is at the ripe age to learn now in a team like Dallas, where they're likely to go down a mini rebuild with most of there core closer to the end/twilight of there careers.

Would you guys be interested in..

Schenn, Raymond(your 2nd/3rd line tweener) Mcnally(D) or Grenier(F), and a 1st in 2012 or 2013 for Ott and Ryder?
Yeah I'd prolly take Schenn, Raymond and the 1st for Ott and Ryder...

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06-18-2012, 03:15 PM
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Yeah I'd prolly take Schenn, Raymond and the 1st for Ott and Ryder...
Sweet. Now if Luongo gets traded for Schenn+ I won't be as upset.

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I'd prefer to keep Ryder and add to Ott for Raymond + Schenn.

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06-18-2012, 04:51 PM
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Vancouver/Dallas

Ballard, Higgins, Raymond, 1st or 2nd in 2012 for Ryder, Fistric, Chiasson

Dallas fans, is this close at all or no?

My thought process being

1) Ryder is a UFA in 1 year and will be asking for 4.5million+
2) Fistric is a RFA
3) Ballard who IMO is still a good top4 defender, will solidify your defense
4) Higgins is a cheaper top 6 forward to replace Ryder
5) Raymond is another cheap top 6 forward that has potential

Close at all?

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06-18-2012, 04:53 PM
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Mods, please move this to the firesale thread.

And there is no way in hell I would move Chiasson, especially in that package. Ever.

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06-18-2012, 04:56 PM
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Dallas is not going near Ballard's contract. Higgins is no where close to Ryder.

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Doubt Dallas would even consider this. Ballard and Raymond have little to zero value, and late 2nd/1st+Higgins is not nearly enough for Ryder, Chiasson, and Fistric. More I look at this the worse this actually looks...

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06-18-2012, 05:05 PM
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Raymond has zero value, and Chiasson is not being moved.

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Ballard, Higgins, Raymond, 1st or 2nd in 2012 for Ryder, Fistric, Chiasson

Dallas fans, is this close at all or no?

My thought process being

1) Ryder is a UFA in 1 year and will be asking for 4.5million+
2) Fistric is a RFA
3) Ballard who IMO is still a good top4 defender, will solidify your defense
4) Higgins is a cheaper top 6 forward to replace Ryder
5) Raymond is another cheap top 6 forward that has potential

Close at all?

1) Raymond has some value given the thin UFA class
2) Ballard has 0 value to the Stars, who are going to need flexibility rather than overpriced veterans when the likes of Oleksiak/Nemeth are NHL ready. He also stands in the way of developing Larsen and Dillon.
3) Higgins is cheaper than Ryder, but he isn't going to score 35 goals either, and I don't think he is a legit top 6 guy.
4) Your 1st is pretty low, and its value to Dallas is most likely related to how high it could move the 13th pick.
5) Your 2nd doesn't really help because the team has been publicly targeting top 50 picks.
6) Ryder scored 35 goals this year, and had a big playoffs on a team that won the cup in 2011. Even if he has a down year I expect he could return some real assets at the deadline. This team struggled for offense, so it is hard to justify moving him for spare parts instead of futures.
7) The team is high on Chiasson, and trading prospects for picks instead of legit roster upgrades doesn't fit the direction of the team.
8) Fistric is probably available unless he takes a big step forward, but I don't think whatever value Ballard adds is worth the increased cost and term.
9) The team has a new owner, doesn't need to cut costs, and isn't near the cap.

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06-18-2012, 05:44 PM
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Thank you moderator-types.

I'd offer Fistric for Higgins.

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holy god no, shorts. terrible GM in hockey and haxball

UP, Higgins was unreal at the end of the season. I don't think Fistric will be enough for him.

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Ballard, Higgins, Raymond, 1st or 2nd in 2012 for Ryder, Fistric, Chiasson

Dallas fans, is this close at all or no?

My thought process being

1) Ryder is a UFA in 1 year and will be asking for 4.5million+
2) Fistric is a RFA
3) Ballard who IMO is still a good top4 defender, will solidify your defense
4) Higgins is a cheaper top 6 forward to replace Ryder
5) Raymond is another cheap top 6 forward that has potential

Close at all?
No..

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