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06-18-2012, 02:40 PM
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Bouwmeester + 14th overall might not even MOVE you into the top 5 let alone give you a 5th overall pick. Not that I'd do it but 5th overall>>>Bouwmeester, I'd much rather take which ever defenseman fall to 5th than have Bouwmeester. Take Calgary out of the proposal, neither team wants Bouwmeester.

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06-18-2012, 02:42 PM
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To Toronto
Paul Stastny

To Calgary
2012 5th overal
Tim Connolly or Mike Komisarek

To Colorado
Jay Bouwmeester
LOLOLOLOL. Avs get screwed. Suprisingly, its not even the Leafs who make out like bandits here. Stastny for 5th overall..meh..some Leafs fans would say yes, some no. Bouwmeester for 5th overall? Flames run away laughing. Stastny for Bouwmeester? That is brutal.

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06-18-2012, 02:48 PM
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As said, there was a thread saying 14th+JBo would'nt get you top 5 pick, and then you put him by hisself? Avs get bent over also. He is 3M overpaid.. Hell no from COL and TOR. First steal you want your GM to be on the other side of..

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06-18-2012, 02:50 PM
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Yep, terrible. Kessel gets 50 goal potential and Stastny plays in an offensive system with the potential to go back to 70+ points.

Terrible.

Just as bad as Liles was when you guys wanted him.

This deal is bad enough that Lacroix would have a heartattack hearing about the proposal from Sherman because he was laughing so violently.
Are we talking like its 2009 again? I see a $6.6 Million dollar player who had a 53 and 57 point season. Stastnys value hasn't gone anywhere but down the past few years.

Don't mind me if I'd prefer to take that potential 70+ point risk on a top 5 pick making 6 Million dollars less than Stastny.

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06-18-2012, 02:51 PM
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I dont get why the leafs would do this and why would the avalanche want it?

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06-18-2012, 02:52 PM
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Are we talking like its 2009 again? I see a $6.6 Million dollar player who had a 53 and 57 point season. Stastnys value hasn't gone anywhere but down the past few years.

Don't mind me if I'd prefer to take that potential 70+ point risk on a top 5 pick making 6 Million dollars less than Stastny.
That's fine, but the Avs sure as hell aren't taking Bouwmeester for Stastny.

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06-18-2012, 02:53 PM
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That's fine, but the Avs sure as hell aren't taking Bouwmeester for Stastny.
I don't think I ever disputed that. All I said was that this deal was god awful for Toronto, which it is.

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06-18-2012, 03:05 PM
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Are we talking like its 2009 again? I see a $6.6 Million dollar player who had a 53 and 57 point season. Stastnys value hasn't gone anywhere but down the past few years.

Don't mind me if I'd prefer to take that potential 70+ point risk on a top 5 pick making 6 Million dollars less than Stastny.
True...true...very true....could you perhaps explain to me then why there is a Stastny to Toronto thread then every other week???? If he is as awful as you guys like to portray, then you would not even want him lol. Seems to me your just trying to buy low. Nice try.


Edit: Even the Leafs board is talking about him right now

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06-18-2012, 03:10 PM
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To Toronto
Paul Stastny

To Calgary
2012 5th overal
Tim Connolly or Mike Komisarek

To Colorado
Jay Bouwmeester
Yikes.. this is as brutal (if not more so) as every other Leaf-related proposal you've ever posted in this forum.

OP, please understand that the ONLY WAY the Leafs are ever going to acquire a #1 center is if they DRAFT ONE.

No other team is going to trade their #1 center to the Leafs!

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06-18-2012, 03:11 PM
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How about instead:

To Toronto
Paul Stastny

To Calgary
2012 5th overall
Connolly

To Colorado
Jay Bouwmeester
Cgy 2nd round 2012
TO 2nd round 2013

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06-18-2012, 03:13 PM
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True...true...very true....could you perhaps explain to me then why there is a Stastny to Toronto thread then every other week???? If he is as awful as you guys like to portray, then you would not even want him lol. Seems to me your just trying to buy low. Nice try.


Edit: Even the Leafs board is talking about him right now
I'm not speaking on behalf of leaf fans just myself, so no point in generalizing the entire fan base.

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06-18-2012, 03:13 PM
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How about instead:

To Toronto
Paul Stastny

To Calgary
2012 5th overall
Connolly

To Colorado
Jay Bouwmeester
Cgy 2nd round 2012
TO 2nd round 2013
Toronto wouldnt consider paying a dime more then the 5th overall..

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06-18-2012, 03:19 PM
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why there is a Stastny to Toronto thread then every other week????
Don't flatter yourselves. I haven't seen a Stastny to Toronto thread in months.

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06-18-2012, 03:22 PM
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Don't flatter yourselves. I haven't seen a Stastny to Toronto thread in months.
Yeah, go back 3 months and there is one every couple days. Trust me, around the draft they will take off again. First two pages of the 11'/12' Offseason Proposals/Trades/Signings thread on the Leafs board which was created 2 hours ago is already dedicated to Stastny.

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06-18-2012, 03:26 PM
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Don't flatter yourselves. I haven't seen a Stastny to Toronto thread in months.
You don't see many trade threads after the trade deadline...

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06-18-2012, 03:28 PM
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Toronto wouldnt consider paying a dime more then the 5th overall..
Sounds like Toronto has some truculence.

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06-18-2012, 03:29 PM
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True...true...very true....could you perhaps explain to me then why there is a Stastny to Toronto thread then every other week???? If he is as awful as you guys like to portray, then you would not even want him lol. Seems to me your just trying to buy low. Nice try.


Edit: Even the Leafs board is talking about him right now
The only reason the majority of the Leafs' fanbase is frequently talking about Stastny is because they're too impatient and they see Stastny as a potential "quick fix" who could help the team get into the play-offs next season.

They don't see the "big picture". All they want is instant gratification and they don't give a damn about the cost involved.

Unlike most Leaf fans on these boards, I have the patience these other people lack and I understand that "quick fixes" rarely ever work. As such, I'd much rather keep the 5th overall pick and use it to draft a much-needed high-quality prospect than piss it away on yet another "quick fix".

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06-18-2012, 03:32 PM
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The only reason the majority of the Leafs' fanbase is frequently talking about Stastny is because they're too impatient and they see Stastny as a potential "quick fix" who could help the team get into the play-offs next season.

They don't see the "big picture". All they want is instant gratification and they don't give a damn about the cost involved.

Unlike most Leaf fans on these boards, I have the patience these other people lack and I understand that "quick fixes" rarely ever work. As such, I'd much rather keep the 5th overall pick and use it to draft a much-needed high-quality prospect than piss it away on yet another "quick fix".
A 26 year old centre wouldn't be a quick fix, Stastny is gonna be in the league for at least another 10 years. If they signed Brad Richards last off season, that'd be a quick fix.

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06-18-2012, 03:43 PM
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To Toronto
Paul Stastny

To Calgary
2012 5th overal
Tim Connolly or Mike Komisarek

To Colorado
Jay Bouwmeester
As an Avs fan I would prefer the team not move Stastny. Management has not given an indication they are looking to move him either.

I don't think Calgary would be keen on moving Bouwmeester to a division rival. It's not impossible, as Colorado and Calgary have made trades before (Tanguay for Leopold and two picks come to mind).

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06-18-2012, 03:44 PM
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You're going to turn Burke, Nonis and Fletcher into raging
alcoholics if some how this deal was proposed to Toronto....
I'm sure they would first scratch their heads and say, **** people
in this league think we're complete morons - then you try to "fix" it
by taking another pick away from us 2nd 2012 and send it to Colorado...... JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS!

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06-18-2012, 03:47 PM
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Yeah, go back 3 months and there is one every couple days. Trust me, around the draft they will take off again. First two pages of the 11'/12' Offseason Proposals/Trades/Signings thread on the Leafs board which was created 2 hours ago is already dedicated to Stastny.
It was one summer of Stastny obsession.

The Leafs trade board talks about trades all the time, ranging from realistic proposals, to many, many, ridiculous and impossible scenarios. I don't like it, but that's how it goes. The only reason it's even being talked about is because of one tweet. No Leafs fan came up with the idea themselves today.

And I doubt we'll see many trades regarding Stastny to the Leafs this summer. There will probably be one big one with a huge flame war, that'll eventually get locked or reach the maximum # of posts, and we won't hear about it again, unless the rumour mill really starts running.

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You don't see many trade threads after the trade deadline...
Bull. There have been numerous threads that include the Leafs in this forum. None of them including Stastny. There was that one summer. That's it. Like I said, stop flattering yourselves.

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06-18-2012, 03:48 PM
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How about instead:

To Toronto
Paul Stastny

To Calgary
2012 5th overall
Connolly

To Colorado
Jay Bouwmeester
Cgy 2nd round 2012
TO 2nd round 2013
Calgary is still giving up JBow + 2nd rounder for #5 + Connolly. I would say going by that skeleton more like:
To Toronto
Paul Stastny

To Calgary
2012 5th overall
Connolly

To Colorado
Jay Bouwmeester
Cgy #14 overall
TO 2nd round 2013

But still don't think Colorado would be liking that personally.

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06-18-2012, 03:49 PM
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I truly don't mind Leafs fans not wanting to trade more than the 5th pick for a 1C, but seriously, you guys need to just stick with this for once, because you are only going to wait 3 or so years for the 5th draft pick to possibly develop into a top6 center (unless he is like Kadri, but at least you know in 3 or 4 years then), while you are going to wait on a sucker to trade you a 1st line center for a draft pick forever.

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06-18-2012, 03:53 PM
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True...true...very true....could you perhaps explain to me then why there is a Stastny to Toronto thread then every other week???? If he is as awful as you guys like to portray, then you would not even want him lol. Seems to me your just trying to buy low. Nice try.


Edit: Even the Leafs board is talking about him right now
I'll make sure to alert the Million+ about this at our next Leafs fan base monthly meetings.

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Stastny was the best av down the stretch IMO, and his value to the avs is a 70+ point #1C

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