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06-18-2012, 09:35 PM
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I really like the idea of Jagr. 3-4 million should do it. Love to have it cheaper but not gonna happen.
With Jagr in, this is how I see our line up!

Max-Plekanec-Jagr
Bourque-DD-Cole
Moen-Eller-Gionta
Blunden/Schultz-Leblanc/Nattinen-White/Leblanc
That's exactly the lineup I have

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06-18-2012, 09:40 PM
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I really like the idea of Jagr. 3-4 million should do it. Love to have it cheaper but not gonna happen.
With Jagr in, this is how I see our line up!

Max-Plekanec-Jagr
Bourque-DD-Cole
Moen-Eller-Gionta
Blunden(or other)-White-insert punch capable 4th liner here
There's a respectable season opening line up right there
with a couple of minor changes on the bottom 3

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06-18-2012, 09:45 PM
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Unless Therrien's a miracle worker, having Borque in the top 6 is a recipe for 10-12 place. And that's if he bounces back.

Jagr for a year would be fine by me.

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06-18-2012, 09:50 PM
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That's exactly the lineup I have
It so simple!
Give the chance of Pacioretty to play with one of the great in Jagr, Plekanec some great wingers.
With DD and Cole, Bourque making sure DD has size on the wing and Bourque must and produce, well he doesn't, he just doesn't fit.
For the 3rd line, well Eller coming into his own with two savvy vet and the Captain to boot.
Our 4th line should consist of size, grit and smarts. Leblanc has the smarts and maybe a center role on the fourth line could help us see if he can be a center in the NHL. Nattinen could fit this role. With Blunden , White and Schultz, it's easy to see why they could be useful on a 4th line.
I say a great line up 5 on 5.

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06-18-2012, 10:23 PM
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No thank you to Jagr.

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06-18-2012, 10:33 PM
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I really like the idea of Jagr. 3-4 million should do it. Love to have it cheaper but not gonna happen.
With Jagr in, this is how I see our line up!

Max-Plekanec-Jagr
Bourque-DD-Cole
Moen-Eller-Gionta
Blunden/Schultz-Leblanc/Nattinen-White/Leblanc
Nice lineup. But I don't think putting young guys like Leblanc or Nattinen on the 4th will be good for them, for their future. Signing McClement would be the best IMO. Or some old vet.

Would Torrey Mitchell fit on the 4th line, the guy is only 27 but I dont get to watch a lot of Sharks game so...

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06-18-2012, 11:06 PM
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06-18-2012, 11:35 PM
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What?

Max must stay with DD and Cole

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06-18-2012, 11:37 PM
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What?

Max must stay with DD and Cole
No, he doesn't.

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06-18-2012, 11:47 PM
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No, he doesn't.
Splitting the awesome trio should at least be attempted. Its far better having two good top lines than a great one and a struggling one. Harder to shut down having two good lines and also more consistant.

Of course if Plekanec can find chemistry with two wingers that aren't Pacio or Cole then that trio shouldn't be touched.

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06-18-2012, 11:51 PM
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Splitting the awesome trio should at least be attempted. Its far better having two good top lines than a great one and a struggling one. Harder to shut down having two good lines and also more consistant.

Of course if Plekanec can find chemistry with two wingers that aren't Pacio or Cole then that trio shouldn't be touched.

I agree. I get the three have chemistry but we aren't talking about the Sedins here. DD, Patches and Cole are good players in their own right, but unless we are talking Malkin or Sedin type numbers it doesn't make sense to sacrifice all offensive output on other lines to have one very good one.

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06-18-2012, 11:55 PM
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Pacioretty-DD-Cole
Bourque-Plekanec-Jagr
Leblanc-Eller-Gionta
Moen-McClement-White

All 3 guys on the 3rd line can move up into a top 6 roll in case of injuries etc.

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06-19-2012, 12:00 AM
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Pacioretty-DD-Cole
Bourque-Plekanec-Jagr
Leblanc-Eller-Gionta
Moen-McClement-White

All 3 guys on the 3rd line can move up into a top 6 roll in case of injuries etc.
Why on earth do you have Bourque on the 2nd line and not Gionta?

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06-19-2012, 12:07 AM
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Why on earth do you have Bourque on the 2nd line and not Gionta?
Gionta is Mr. Underrated this off-season. People forget that even after losing more than half a season to injury he's been our best goal scorer in the last 3 years. Healthy and playing with Plekanec I can't see how he wouldn't get around 25 goals.

Pairing him with Eller isn't a good idea since they are not good puck distributors.

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06-19-2012, 12:12 AM
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Don't want Jagr.

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06-19-2012, 12:24 AM
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Why on earth do you have Bourque on the 2nd line and not Gionta?
I think Gionta is better on the Right side not the left. He'd be behind Jagr & Cole.

Could we move Cole over?

Cole-Plekanec-Gionta
Pacioretty-DD-Jagr
Bourque-Eller-Leblanc
Moen-'McClement'-White

Pleks/Gio get a big scoring winger, DD still has 2 big wingers.

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06-19-2012, 12:49 AM
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Why would you make your team better for a season if all you're thinking about is the future? The concern is the young players need more time, because the team will have to rely on them in the future to be any good. So if your concern is the young talent coming up, why would you set the team up to get a worse draft pick next season?

You sign Jagr to help Leblanc develop, but signing Jagr means less of a chance to get MacKinnon. Does that make any sense to you?
You sign Jagr 1 year cause he is better right now than any of our kids.. As much as I would like to get Mackinnon or Jones, there is no guarentee it will happen, I just cant see the Habs being as bad as they were last year, especially with the new direction, new coach and new mentality, they will try their best to ice the best line-up possible for the next season and I dont think its very sane to offer not NHL ready kids a spot on a silver plate.. They have to develop properly in the AHL and eventually earn a spot over an established vet.. Short term, for 1 year, Jagr is a very good option IMO, especially considering the chimestry he has with Plekanec.. I think a guy like Latendresse would be another very good option too to play with Eller..

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06-19-2012, 01:11 AM
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If the team is bad enough to get Mackinnon or Jones, Jagr isn't going to save us.

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Why on earth do you have Bourque on the 2nd line and not Gionta?
Easy. Not only is Gionta a right winger, he'd be the 3rd right winger on the depth chart behind guys like Jagr and Cole.

Now, if you wanna get funky and move Cole over to his "natural" left, then you can go with:

Cole - Plekanec - Jagr
MaxPac - DD - Gionta
Bourque - Eller - Leblanc
Moen - Player A - Player B

Where ideally Player A is good enough to cover #1 PK duties ahead of Plekanec, and Player B is more than willing/able to throw punches once in a while. But DD + Gionta on the same line would be a tough sell for some people.


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06-19-2012, 03:09 AM
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if we go with Jagr we shall try to go with Evander Kande too !!

Bourque + Eller + mtl 1st 2013 for Evander Kane (i'm sure they would refuse such idea but they got a 20 goals scorer in Bourque and two decent piece for the future in Eller and 2013 1st pick)

Kane Desharnais Cole

this can be an amazing idea

Pacioretty Plekanec Jagr

another great line

Moen Leblanc Gionta

a line with defensive skill and scoring touch

then sign Konopka

Geoffrion Konopka White
Staubitz




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06-19-2012, 08:13 AM
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As much as I'd love to have Jagr, he doesn't solve the left wing problem, we already have Cole and Gionta on right wing. Unless we sign Jagr to play with Eller on the 3rd line, I don't see this happening unfortunately.

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06-19-2012, 08:22 AM
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As much as I'd love to have Jagr, he doesn't solve the left wing problem, we already have Cole and Gionta on right wing. Unless we sign Jagr to play with Eller on the 3rd line, I don't see this happening unfortunately.
Cole and Pacioretty can both play LW or we can spread out our skill on 3 lines, lots of teams do this.

Cole-DD-Jagr
Pacioretty-Pleks-Gio
Bourque-Eller and UFA/Moen/Palushaj

or

Cole-DD-Pacioretty
Jagr-Plekanec-UFA
Gionta-eller-Bourque

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06-19-2012, 08:32 AM
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As much as I'd love to have Jagr, he doesn't solve the left wing problem, we already have Cole and Gionta on right wing. Unless we sign Jagr to play with Eller on the 3rd line, I don't see this happening unfortunately.
Have one of them switch to RW. Jagr would be a great fit for the Plekanec line and Gio can switch.

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06-19-2012, 08:33 AM
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Desharnais makes everyone he plays with better, if we got Jagr somehow I wouldn't mind seeing Bourque put with Desharnais and Cole to see if they can get him going offensively.

Pacioretty - Plekanec - Jagr
Bourque - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Eller - Gionta
Moen - UFA - White

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06-19-2012, 08:56 AM
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the max-plek-jagr lineup looks good on paper. but borkborkborker needs to gtfo to the third line or something... and moen needs to be on the fourth line in an ideal scenario.

we needs another LW...

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