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06-18-2012, 07:10 PM
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Maybe that's why some are cold on Grigorenko.

Remparts last few picks all kinda busted Radulov,Esposito,Stefanovich
So much for Roy ability to pick and develop winners...

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So much for Roy ability to pick and develop winners...
how dare you talk **** about st-pat?

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Radulov leaving for Russia doesn't mean he's a bust. He's still a pretty good player... but with a ****** attitude. Roy looks like the only coach who was able to handle him so far.

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Radulov leaving for Russia doesn't mean he's a bust. He's still a pretty good player... but with a ****** attitude. Roy looks like the only coach who was able to handle him so far.
Well he's only ever had one another coach in North America in his life (Trotz), if you exclude the handful of games he played in the AHL.

I don't even know if it's a question of his attitude. Not all players are made for the NHL, seems like he's one of them.

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I still think he's going to come back in 2013 when he'll be able to choose his team.

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I still think he's going to come back in 2013 when he'll be able to choose his team.
AFAIK he was going to be able to choose his team come June 25th? The qualifying offer day. He's just a guy who picks money first as his agent is probably recommending.

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AFAIK he was going to be able to choose his team come June 25th? The qualifying offer day. He's just a guy who picks money first as his agent is probably recommending.
Pro athletes often pick money 1st... it isn't a huge deal and doesn't say anything about an athlete's personality.

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AFAIK he was going to be able to choose his team come June 25th? The qualifying offer day. He's just a guy who picks money first as his agent is probably recommending.
But then why not wait for june 25th so there is a bidding war between NHL teams and the KHL? Why make the decision right away?

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Very true as well.

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But then why not wait for june 25th so there is a bidding war between NHL teams and the KHL? Why make the decision right away?...
You should ask that to his agent. He's the one turning the switch off early. Maybe he knows he can get big offers from some KHL teams and is just using the possibility of a lockout as a pretext not to burn any bridges. I don't know and I find it weird myself.

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Radulov bolting to the KHL shouldn't be much of a surprise...

he can make more money there than with any NHL team
Russian government/sponsors are ready/willing to spend to get the top russian hockey talent living and playing in russia ahead of sochi 2014. Endorsement opportunities alone could very well top whatever he makes with any teams.

not only is he going where the money is, but he's also going to be a hero over there, and don't think that many of the canadian/U.S stars in the NHL are every bit as aware/concerned about their hero status in the north american markets... elite sports breeds that kind of egotism.

2014-2015 season, I bet a bunch of talented players from Russia will be finding their way back into the NHL

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This would be a guy I'd definitely be interested in...would be a great fit with Plekanec and Gionta.

The Rangers are shopping Brandon Dubinsky "aggressively," according to a report on TEAM 1200, a sports radio station in Ottawa.
The 26-year-old is coming off an unimpressive season in which he tallied 10 goals and 34 points in the first year of a four-year deal that calls for a $4.2 million cap hit. Dubinsky has been involved in nearly every recent trade rumor -- most notably the ones involving Rick Nash -- as someone who has fallen into more of a third-line role on an improving squad. The Rangers are sure to target a big name this offseason, and even though they have just over $21 million in free cap space under the current limits, ridding themselves of Dubinsky's contract provides them a little more maneuverability.

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This would be a guy I'd definitely be interested in...would be a great fit with Plekanec and Gionta.

The Rangers are shopping Brandon Dubinsky "aggressively," according to a report on TEAM 1200, a sports radio station in Ottawa.
The 26-year-old is coming off an unimpressive season in which he tallied 10 goals and 34 points in the first year of a four-year deal that calls for a $4.2 million cap hit. Dubinsky has been involved in nearly every recent trade rumor -- most notably the ones involving Rick Nash -- as someone who has fallen into more of a third-line role on an improving squad. The Rangers are sure to target a big name this offseason, and even though they have just over $21 million in free cap space under the current limits, ridding themselves of Dubinsky's contract provides them a little more maneuverability.
We helped Sather enough already by taking Gomez off his hands.

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We helped Sather enough already by taking Gomez off his hands.
Gomez for Dubinsky then?

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Radulov bolting to the KHL shouldn't be much of a surprise...

he can make more money there than with any NHL team
Russian government/sponsors are ready/willing to spend to get the top russian hockey talent living and playing in russia ahead of sochi 2014. Endorsement opportunities alone could very well top whatever he makes with any teams.

not only is he going where the money is, but he's also going to be a hero over there, and don't think that many of the canadian/U.S stars in the NHL are every bit as aware/concerned about their hero status in the north american markets... elite sports breeds that kind of egotism.

2014-2015 season, I bet a bunch of talented players from Russia will be finding their way back into the NHL
I still think it's a ploy to pressure Nashville into lowering their price and driving up his price. We'll see within a few weeks...

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We helped Sather enough already by taking Gomez off his hands.
I don't think you can compare Dubinsky to Gomez. At 4.2/year he is paid accordingly and is still in his prime at 26. As long as the price is reasonable I'd be very interested. I think he makes a very good 2nd line guy..usually scores 20, plays physical and plays both ends of the rink/on PK. Very solid all around player. A Dustin Brown type guy that you win with at playoff time.

He had a down year 77 GP 10-24-34 110 PIMs +16 but the two years before he went 146 GP 44-54-98 154 PIMs +6

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I don't think you can compare Dubinsky to Gomez. At 4.2/year he is paid accordingly and is still in his prime at 26. As long as the price is reasonable I'd be very interested. I think he makes a very good 2nd line guy..usually scores 20, plays physical and plays both ends of the rink/on PK. Very solid all around player. A Dustin Brown type guy that you win with at playoff time.

He had a down year 77 GP 10-24-34 110 PIMs +16 but the two years before he went 146 GP 44-54-98 154 PIMs +6
I really liked him before he signed that new contract, but sadly he isn't the same player he was before.

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I really liked him before he signed that new contract, but sadly he isn't the same player he was before.
He's had one off year. I think that's too small a sample size to say a guy is a different player, plus he seemed to be banged up a lot this past year.

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Ugh I ****ing HATE dubinsky. Sad excuse of a player. I would go and kick Bergevin's balls if he actually acquired him by any means.

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Dubinsky would be a good fit but he's hard to like and I really don't want to do anything to give the Rangers more cap space again.

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A lot of talk about Chicago trying to move Hjalmarsson. I have no idea why they'd sign a guy like Oduya to that contract if it meant getting rid of Hjalmarsson, who I'd take in a heartbeat on the Habs. I think he can play the right side, which would be perfect, but if he can't, Gorges could probably move back over.

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A lot of talk about Chicago trying to move Hjalmarsson. I have no idea why they'd sign a guy like Oduya to that contract if it meant getting rid of Hjalmarsson, who I'd take in a heartbeat on the Habs. I think he can play the right side, which would be perfect, but if he can't, Gorges could probably move back over.
Bad blood after Hjalmarsson signed an offer sheet from the Sharks last summer?
Honestly no idea, but I wouldn't mind him on the Habs, cap hit at $3.5 M...

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Bad blood after Hjalmarsson signed an offer sheet from the Sharks last summer?
Honestly no idea, but I wouldn't mind him on the Habs, cap hit at $3.5 M...
3.5 per year isin't too bad but how many years does he have left? He would definitely improve our D core.

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A lot of talk about Chicago trying to move Hjalmarsson. I have no idea why they'd sign a guy like Oduya to that contract if it meant getting rid of Hjalmarsson, who I'd take in a heartbeat on the Habs. I think he can play the right side, which would be perfect, but if he can't, Gorges could probably move back over.
Bowman's kid isn't as smart as his dad was.

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3.5 per year isin't too bad but how many years does he have left? He would definitely improve our D core.
2 years left. It was actually two summers ago he signed a four year deal, when the Hawks had won the cup, somehow I completely forgot there was a team that won it last year...

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