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06-12-2012, 09:16 PM
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I would not want to be in the Blue Jackets spot.

Personally I think they need to either move up and get Yakupov or trade down and pick up a guy that falls to them in the 5-8 range.
I think this whole 2nd overall doesn't work out too badly for Columbus, they can avoid the Russian factor and take Forsberg, who is considered the safe pick anyways...though I'd love for them to trade down with my Leafs and we take Filip at 2, but I think they'd be nuts to do it...assuming Nash is on the outs, Forsberg makes a lot of sense for them.

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Forsberg disappointed me at 6'1.25" and 188lbs. Thought he was going to be around 6'3" 200lbs or so like Grigs.

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06-13-2012, 06:59 AM
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Forsberg disappointed me at 6'1.25" and 188lbs. Thought he was going to be around 6'3" 200lbs or so like Grigs.
Keep in mind he is one of the youngest prospects in this years draft, so he still has one or two inches in him.

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06-13-2012, 07:50 AM
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Forsberg disappointed me at 6'1.25" and 188lbs. Thought he was going to be around 6'3" 200lbs or so like Grigs.
At least he's added some weight...considering his age, he still projects to be a power forward sized player.

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06-13-2012, 10:48 AM
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Keep in mind he is one of the youngest prospects in this years draft, so he still has one or two inches in him.
Not necessarily.

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06-13-2012, 11:39 AM
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It may not mean much, but in April 2011 he was already 6'1'' according to this:

http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/244/IHM2440SWE_33_2_0.pdf

Chances are he's done growing if he hasn't grown in the last 14 months.

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06-13-2012, 12:05 PM
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Considering that most heights are usually an inch too high, that doesn't really say much.

There's no guarantee that a player will keep growing. You may be able to look at his parent's heights. But there have been Swedish players that have kept growing and it wasn't just overstating heights in the stats. Mats Sundin following his draft year struggled because he was still growing and even had to keep replacing his skates. He was just in an awkward stage until he got accustomed to his bigger body. Viktor Stålberg at 17/18 was about 6'0, 180 and didn't really stand out with his size then. But those are rather rare cases.

Still, there's a difference between prospects who get their height early and are 6'2, 200 lbs at age 16 and those that take a while to fillout. If you've seen pictures of Mats Sundin when he was drafted (at 6'2, 185 lbs) he's practically unrecognizable (and that's not just his hair). (here's Mats at the NHL draft in 1989: http://i.ebayimg.com/17/!B8%289l!wCW...fdgvQ~~_35.JPG

Despite playing in a mens league, Filip Forsberg isn't all that physically developed for his age and will definitely need to put in a considerable amount of work in the off-season. I'm surprised he is 188 lbs.

But he is only 17 and nearly a year younger than many of the prospects.


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Filip Forsberg (Position)

This question has been asked a million times and the answer seems to change every time.

Can anyone verify what position does he play? Winger or Center? I've heard scouts and analysts and posters say both. I know he's played both but which position is he most likely to play?

If he can play center, comfortably and well this is who I want for the Leafs.

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He's a center, yes, but I don't think he falls to 5th.

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06-19-2012, 11:24 AM
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Winger who can play centre.

For NHL purposes you're drafting a solid 2-way winger with offensive talent when you pick Filip Forsberg. Aside from Yakupov, he is in my eyes the most desirable pick in this draft.

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06-19-2012, 11:41 AM
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For the last three or so years, has never been a center. It is possible he's consistently been on the wing for even longer than that. He's a winger alright.

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He's a center, yes, but I don't think he falls to 5th.
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Winger who can play centre.

For NHL purposes you're drafting a solid 2-way winger with offensive talent when you pick Filip Forsberg. Aside from Yakupov, he is in my eyes the most desirable pick in this draft.
I think the same. If he can in fact line up at all 3 forward positions, (obviously is more comfortable as a winger) this rises his stock dramatically. I really would not be surprised if he's gone before the the 5th pick. At all.

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06-19-2012, 11:46 AM
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The only reason he's called a center is because NHL Central Scouting Bureau lists him as such.

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He's as pure a pure right winger as you'll find.

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06-19-2012, 11:57 AM
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06-22-2012, 09:21 PM
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So why did Filip Forsberg fall?

What do you guys think is the reason Flip Forsberg fell so low?

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06-22-2012, 09:30 PM
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Teams might be scared of him staying another season in Swedish tier2, or they simply just prefered the defensemen. He was still 3rd forward taken.

I personally think tier2 is a terrific developmental league though where he can get a great amount of ice time against men. Worked out for OEL and Berglund making the step from the same league straight into the NHL..

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06-22-2012, 09:31 PM
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Aside from Yakupov there really is no clear pattern in the draft. IMO, the philosophy these days is build from back end and when there's no clear favorite then teams tend to favor drafting blueline over forwards. All in all, Forsberg ended up being 3rd forward taken so really I don't see it as that shocking of a fall

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06-22-2012, 09:34 PM
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I don't think it's anything against him as some people are saying. Teams need D-men, and it meant that offensively talented players who had nothing wrong with them were just passed up. That's why we saw the most D-men drafted in the first 10 picks today, not because all of the D-men are superior in their futures but because of the teams need for D-men in their future.

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06-22-2012, 09:42 PM
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I don't think it's anything against him as some people are saying. Teams need D-men, and it meant that offensively talented players who had nothing wrong with them were just passed up. That's why we saw the most D-men drafted in the first 10 picks today, not because all of the D-men are superior in their futures but because of the teams need for D-men in their future.
Completely disagree, teams like Columbus, NYI, Toronto and Pittsburgh could definitely have used a big, skilled, 2-way winger if they actually really liked him. Near the top of the draft most teams are all about BPA, Forsberg fell because teams liked other players more than him, and those players happened to be dmen.

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06-22-2012, 09:47 PM
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It was said after Yakupov the next several players were a toss up, and that's what happened. Forsberg didn't fall as far as Grigorenko.

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06-22-2012, 09:56 PM
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IMO, the philosophy these days is build from back end and when there's no clear favorite then teams tend to favor drafting blueline over forwards.
That's basically the exact opposite of what's been happening in recent years.

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That's basically the exact opposite of what's been happening in recent years.
Indeed:

2011 - 1 dman in the top 8
2010 - 1 dman in the top 9
2009 - 1 dman in the top 5, 2 in the top 8

The last time we saw lots of dmen go high was in 2008, a draft that was touted as being very strong in terms of dmen even pre-draft. This draft was also touted as being very strong for dmen, and quite weak for forwards, hence lots of dmen going high. It wasn't about team needs, or drafting trends, it was about scouts/GMs of the teams picking in the 4-10 range preferring at least 1 dman who was available to any of the available forwards.

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