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HF Team Board Mock Draft - 28th Overall

View Poll Results: Who do you want the Rangers to select 28th overall at the draft?
Andrei Vasilevski 8 8.08%
Martin Frk 15 15.15%
Malcolm Subban 6 6.06%
Ludvig Byström 2 2.02%
Tom Wilson 22 22.22%
Mark Jankowski 15 15.15%
Colton Sissons 0 0%
Phil Di Giuseppe 1 1.01%
Oscar Dansk 1 1.01%
Stefan Matteau 20 20.20%
Michael Matheson 0 0%
Tanner Pearson 9 9.09%
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06-19-2012, 03:12 PM
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Here's a modded table of info on the draft eligibles included in this poll. The full table can be seen HERE.

!CNBRHPUS2012 DRAFT PROSPECTSHEIGHTWEIGHTS/CTEAMAROUND THE WEBVIDEO
 
025
063
6.03
204
R
Ufa (MHL)
[LW] [THW]
 
 
033
033
6.00
204
R
Halifax (QMJHL)
[LW] [NHL] [THW] [YC]
[YC]
 
053
078
6.01
188
L
Belleville (OHL)
[LW] [THW] [YC]
[NHL]
 
026
020
6.01
208
L
MODO J20 (SuperElit)
[LW] [NEHJ]
 
 
028
076
6.04
203
R
Plymouth (OHL)
[LW] [NEHJ] [NHL] [THW] [YC]
[YT]
 
061
036
6.02
170
L
Stanstead (HIGH-QC)
[LW] [NEHJ] [THW]
 
 
042
077
6.01
189
R
Kelowna (WHL)
[HP] [LW] [THN] [THW] [YC]
 
 
031
053
5.11
176
L
Michigan (NCAA)
[FC] [HP] [LW] [NEHJ]
 
 
060
 
6.02
186
L
Brynäs J20 (SuperElit)
[FC] [LW] [NEHJ] [NHL] [THW]
 
 
034
041
6.02
210
L
USA U-18 (USHL)
[HP] [LW] [NEHJ] [THW]
[RHS]
 
029
031
6.01
178
L
Dubuque (USHL)
[LW] [YC]
[RHS]
 
035
040
6.00
198
L
Barrie (OHL)
[LW] [NEHJ] [NHL] [THW] [YC]
[YC]

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- CNBR = June consensus rankings from Copper and Blue.
- HPUS = Corey Pronman's rankings from Hockey Prospectus.
- Positions + measurements = via NHL.com draft cards.
- Note: RHS is isolation footage, but also has analysis as well.

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06-19-2012, 03:12 PM
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I like Frk and Wilson but Frk a little more

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06-19-2012, 03:15 PM
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If Pearson is still available at 28, it's not even a choice for me.

This board says they want more offense and then they vote to draft Tom Wilson

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06-19-2012, 03:21 PM
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If you want high risk, he is the highest risk of them all. But, the reward can be very high as well. He's produced numbers that stick out so much that as a 20 yo, he's being projected as a late 1st. There is something there. Sometimes it comes later in a players career. He's got a ton of talent and more importantly, he's working hard now and has something to prove.

I think it's time to take a risk in round one with some skill. This would be the ultimate risk/reward. He'd basically come right into the organization as well in the AHL.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went in another direction, but this guy screams high risk/high reward.
Pearson is also physically 2 years ahead in development of a lot of these guys.

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If Pearson is still available at 28, it's not even a choice for me.

This board says they want more offense and then they vote to draft Tom Wilson
I do want more offense, but by the same token, Wilson provides the highest overall value based on what I've read - and that's why I voted to draft him. In this case, I went for the pick that I think would add the biggest "chip" to our prospect pool, who could then be used in future deals.

Were the draft to fall out like this, what I'd really want Slats to do is trade down and take TWO of Pearson/Jankowski/Hart/Mac Squared/etc.

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I like Frk and Wilson but Frk a little more
As a person who respects vowels, I cannot support picking Frk.

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I do want more offense, but by the same token, Wilson provides the highest overall value based on what I've read - and that's why I voted to draft him. In this case, I went for the pick that I think would add the biggest "chip" to our prospect pool, who could then be used in future deals.

Were the draft to fall out like this, what I'd really want Slats to do is trade down and take TWO of Pearson/Jankowski/Hart/Mac Squared/etc.
What Wilson brings is alot easier to find on the market than the type of skill Pearson has offensively.

Wilson will be a 4th line boulder in the NHL, he's a dime a dozen.

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Wilson.
Pearson last year at a year older than Wilson is THIS year was 0.64 ppg as opposed to Wilson's .55 ppg this year. In addition to Wilson's other attributes. Wilson broke out in the playoffs (when you WANT to see a player up his game) and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he had a BIG year in '12-'13.

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Wilson.
Pearson last year at a year older than Wilson is THIS year was 0.64 ppg as opposed to Wilson's .55 ppg this year. In addition to Wilson's other attributes. Wilson broke out in the playoffs (when you WANT to see a player up his game) and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he had a BIG year in '12-'13.
That's exactly why Pearson wasn't drafted last year

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Wilson. 6 foot 4 behemoth with big upside.

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i wonder if Grigorenko will still be on the table when we pick...if so id take him.

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Wilson.
Jankowski.
Vasilevski.
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i wonder if Grigorenko will still be on the table when we pick...if so id take him.
I wouldnt mind that haha

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If you follow the draft, historically the overagers average out the same or worse compared to younger kids. Usually I'd rather take the project youngster than the overage scorer.

Not a big fan of Pearson.

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i wonder if Grigorenko will still be on the table when we pick...if so id take him.
Highly doubtful. I know he's sliding, but I can't envision him getting beyond Calgary. They need a high-end center in a bad way.

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I wouldnt mind that haha
im not an expert on this draft at all..but ive been reading how he's expected to plummet come draft day.

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Wilson's best upside is Lucic--if not he could turn into something like a Chris Neil. Lucic is obviously better than Neil but Neil was a big time performer for the Senators against us in the playoffs. That's not bad at all--even if he is a bottom liner.

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Went with Tanner Pearson. I think we need mor ehigher end skill guys in the system so we don't have a bunch of pluggers on the roster.

Can't go wrong with Tom Wilson if he can improve his offensive output. He posted respectable numbers in the PO's, but was medicore at best during the Reg. season.

The good thing about Wilson is that this kid was a beast of a man last year at 17 years old, 6'4" and 200lbs? he can grow an inch and add 15-20lbs and be a physical monster.

Would hope that he can develope an offensive game And shift to LW

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Wilson is never going to be a lucic type, he doesnt have the skill. 9 goals in 49 games is not going to translate to 25-30 at the NHL level, I dont care how big he gets. Ever since looch came into the league, theres this idea that every tom dick and harry whos 6 foot 4 is gonna be the next one. Lucic is actually good.

Lucic had a 30 goal season at the junior level. When wilson does that, I'll jump on board.


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Would be happy with either Wilson or Matteau. Stnks Samuelson got selected at 27.

Gun to my head, I'd take Wilson.

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If the draft fell like this, Vasilevski no question.

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I've been behind Sissons for a while now but looking at how this mock has fallen, I've decided it's just better to swing for the fences and take Pearson. Drafting this late, I think it's better to go for it all.

Although Frk intrigues me as well, and not only because I think his name would look awesome on the back of a jersey.

I'd also hope that Laughton or Gaunce fall... either to us at 28 or enough that we can move up without paying too much.

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Wilson is never going to be a lucic type, he doesnt have the skill. 9 goals in 49 games is not going to translate to 25-30 at the NHL level, I dont care how big he gets. Ever since looch came into the league, theres this idea that every tom dick and harry whos 6 foot 4 is gonna be the next one. Lucic is actually good.

Lucic had a 30 goal season at the junior level. When wilson does that, I'll jump on board.
You have to look at each individual player on his own. Wilson is trending very rapidly upwards. He broke a knuckle at the top prospects game on a helmet and, in Plymouth, he was asked to be more of a grinder as they had a deep team there this season. I believe Rakell was hurt during the playoffs and he stepped up and had 7 goals and 13 points in 13 games.

JT Miller is his teammate. Miller, who is 1 year older, had 2 goals and 10 points in those 13 games. Wilson has offensive upside. He was stifled by depth last year.

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Wilson is never going to be a lucic type, he doesnt have the skill. 9 goals in 49 games is not going to translate to 25-30 at the NHL level, I dont care how big he gets. Ever since looch came into the league, theres this idea that every tom dick and harry whos 6 foot 4 is gonna be the next one. Lucic is actually good.

Lucic had a 30 goal season at the junior level. When wilson does that, I'll jump on board.
These are the WHL numbers Lucic put up in his draft year:

62gp-9g-10a-19pts-149pm.

These are the OHL numbers Wilson has just put up in his draft year:

49gp-9g-18a-27pts-141pm.

Pretty much everyone acknowledges that Wilson's output was on the disappointing side because it's thought that he has more talent than that. But anyway I made a Lucic-Chris Neil comparison and he may fall somewhere in between but even with Neil if you remember the question asked on this board after the playoff series with the Senators--about if we could take just one Senators player who would it be--a lot of people went with Neil because he was a really effective player--even though he doesn't score a lot.

Wilson may be a forward type version of McIlrath--maybe not put up a lot of points but other teams will have to keep their heads up. Rangers have talented players coming along. They could be one of the toughest teams and hardest teams to play against if you spot players like Mcilrath and Wilson throughout the lineup. These guys aren't exactly goons--they can play. Keep in mind as well--it doesn't hurt that Miller's been a teammate.

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