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06-19-2012, 10:52 AM
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Value of Cullen/Bäckström

What is valuo of Cullen or Bäckström? Yeah i know that Cullen have Limited NMC, do somebody know more about this?

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I forgot ask you opinion to value of Bouchard/Brodziak/Foster ?


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06-19-2012, 11:03 AM
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Cullen won't be moved. Organizationally, the Wild brass have really put a lot of PR behind him and his Cully's Kids organization. It would just smack of illogic for the organization to trade him after their PR push this spring/summer.

Sure, most of us here want him moved, but I just can't see it.

Backstrom?

I'd love to see him moved for a 2nd line center.

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06-19-2012, 11:08 AM
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I'd love to see him moved for a 2nd line center.
Thanks for the info... Does anybody that need a starter goalie have any second line centers?

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Cullen was brought in as a 3rd liner, ended up on the 2nd line due to all the injuries. He logged alot of minutes for his age (hate saying that, its like admitting defeat for us "ole timers".

His leadership probably carries the most value.

That said, I dont think he'll be around for much longer, theres plenty of young talent close to ready for that 3rd line.

Cullen's trade value = not much, and not worth shopping.

As far as Backstrom goes, i'm assuming you're entertaining the idea of trading him to sign Harding and bring up Hackett? I think his trade value is decent, not sure exactly what decent is tho, he didn't have that great of a year and started to show his decline under a brighter light (the 1st to worst spotlight the Wild was under).

Backs' team value, heck if I know! With the young inexperienced bl'ers in front of him, probably significant.

I think the Wild missed the boat last year by not moving Harding, when they elected not to move him I thought they intended to sign him, apparently not.

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Cullen was brought in as a 3rd liner, ended up on the 2nd line due to all the injuries.
Then who, pray tell, was supposed to be playing 2nd line?

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Then who, pray tell, was supposed to be playing 2nd line?
Thats PMB's line..

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PMB hasn't been a center for as long as I can remember.

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I think the Wild missed the boat last year by not moving Harding, when they elected not to move him I thought they intended to sign him, apparently not.
I'll attempt to be nice...

How can you "miss the boat" if there is no boat?



Fletcher got zero offers for Harding. Zero. No Boat.

Yzerman was in the house watching the Nashville game... Harding choked and lost that game. Up until the last five minutes, I'm betting Yzerman would have picked Harding up at the deadline. Coughing up all those weak-sauce goals?

He had Roloson for that...

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goalie market is not there. too many vets with one or two good or even phenomenal years floating around loose to be had for free rather than spend assets on a unproven, oft injured backup.

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I'll attempt to be nice...

How can you "miss the boat" if there is no boat?



Fletcher got zero offers for Harding. Zero. No Boat.

Yzerman was in the house watching the Nashville game... Harding choked and lost that game. Up until the last five minutes, I'm betting Yzerman would have picked Harding up at the deadline. Coughing up all those weak-sauce goals?

He had Roloson for that...

Fair enough, I thought it was more on the Wilds decision to not move him.


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Cullen was brought in to be the Wild's 2nd line center. Please, go back and watch Fletcher's interviews after free agency. He said "2nd line center" like 10 times.

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Cullen was brought in to be the Wild's 2nd line center. Please, go back and watch Fletcher's interviews after free agency. He said "2nd line center" like 10 times.

Thanks, I beieve ya. I never saw the interview

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I'll attempt to be nice...

How can you "miss the boat" if there is no boat?



Fletcher got zero offers for Harding. Zero. No Boat.
This isn't true.

Ottawa made multiple offers for Harding but Fletcher didn't bite. They traded for Ben Bishop after refusing to pay Fletcher's asking price for Harding.

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This isn't true.

Ottawa made multiple offers for Harding but Fletcher didn't bite. They traded for Ben Bishop after refusing to pay Fletcher's asking price for Harding.
That is completely contrary to what I heard through the season...

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That is completely contrary to what I heard through the season...
Not sure where you would have heard any of that then. The Penguins were allegedly interested in Harding as well. Seems that a number of other unnamed teams made inquiries as to his cost: Link

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Not sure where you would have heard any of that then. The Penguins were allegedly interested in Harding as well. Seems that a number of other unnamed teams made inquiries as to his cost: Link
Funny, in your link there's no mention of Ottawa making multiple offers for Harding - which is what you were arguing...

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Funny, in your link there's no mention of Ottawa making multiple offers for Harding - which is what you were arguing...
Funny, no one ever said the link had to do with an argument made solely in a separate post...

The link is supporting the claim made in the sentence it was a part of.

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Not sure where you would have heard any of that then. The Penguins were allegedly interested in Harding as well. Seems that a number of other unnamed teams made inquiries as to his cost: Link
I'm basing it off of Russo and only Russo.

He reported (several times) that there were zero offers (at the deadline) for Harding. The only real interest was kaboshed the night Hards crapped the crease in the last five minutes of that horrible Nashville game...

/shrug

I was all set to become a fan of another team July 1st...

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If Hackett plays well in Huston and if and this a biiig if we have a window to trade backstroke I can see us move him at the deadline.

I would say backstroms value is going to depend on the market, low supply he could garner a 1st and

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I'm basing it off of Russo and only Russo.

He reported (several times) that there were zero offers (at the deadline) for Harding. The only real interest was kaboshed the night Hards crapped the crease in the last five minutes of that horrible Nashville game...

/shrug

I was all set to become a fan of another team July 1st...
Sportsnet (on air so I my quick search didn't find a reputable link) reported that Ottawa tried to get Harding but balked at the asking price of 2nd + roster player/prospect.

As for what Russo said about the matter, the only quote I can find from him currently is that he personally didn't know if there was much of a market for him at the deadline.

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Funny, no one ever said the link had to do with an argument made solely in a separate post...

The link is supporting the claim made in the sentence it was a part of.
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The Minnesota Wild were taking calls this weekend, of course, on goalie Josh Harding, a UFA on July 1. If Ben Bishop netted a second-round pick, Harding should garner a better asset given his NHL experience.
Taking calls and getting offers are different. Again...

Again, there were more mentions of Harding not drawing offers... But that was the closest one to the trade deadline I could find...

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Taking calls and getting offers are different. Again...



Again, there were more mentions of Harding not drawing offers... But that was the closest one to the trade deadline I could find...
I think you're dramatically misunderstanding what "no firm offer" means. It doesn't mean "taking calls." It means that discussions were actually held to try work something out, but sides were too far apart for a real offer to be made either way. Furthermore, that's a comment solely about actual trade deadline day. All the reports and inquiries about Harding were from the weeks leading up to it.

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Cullen will likely just be let go of after this season.

Most likely the same thing will happen with Backstrom but there's a chance he could be moved at the deadline as well.

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I think you're dramatically misunderstanding what "no firm offer" means. It doesn't mean "taking calls." It means that discussions were actually held to try work something out, but sides were too far apart for a real offer to be made either way. Furthermore, that's a comment solely about actual trade deadline day. All the reports and inquiries about Harding were from the weeks leading up to it.
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