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Sens re-sign Erik Karlsson (7 years, $6.5M cap hit)

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06-19-2012, 06:07 PM
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People are still stuck in 2005. When third liners start getting $4 million, I think it's reasonable that your #1 defenseman gets $6.5 million. He wasn't just a #1 on one team, but he made headlines throughout the league for what he did at the age of 21.
Not stuck in 2005. He's nowhere near a #1 defenseman. He may score a ton but as a dman your job is to defend and he doesn't know how to. One season isn't indicative of how he will progress.

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Well there's still the Doughty, Phaneuf, Bouwmeester contracts out there. He could argue for 6-7.

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All 3 of Doughty, Phaneuf and J-Bo were great two-way dman when they signed the deals.

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Not stuck in 2005. He's nowhere near a #1 defenseman. He may score a ton but as a dman your job is to defend and he doesn't know how to. One season isn't indicative of how he will progress.


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he's been getting better every year. Definitely a fantastic contract from the point we're at now.

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If Karlsson manages to walk away with the norris why shouldn't he get "Doughty Money"? Last time I checked Doughty's Norris count is still at zero.
eh Id rather have the cup.... how bout you

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Not stuck in 2005. He's nowhere near a #1 defenseman. He may score a ton but as a dman your job is to defend and he doesn't know how to. One season isn't indicative of how he will progress.
I advise you go watch Erik Karlsson play, because I already know you haven't.

What a ludicrous comment.

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It seems steep at first especially considering his age but its very easy to forget how high the salary cap has become these days. Unless there are major changes in the CBA deals like this are going to be huge bargains in a few years.

Its also fair for now, he's amazing after all.

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Not stuck in 2005. He's nowhere near a #1 defenseman. He may score a ton but as a dman your job is to defend and he doesn't know how to. One season isn't indicative of how he will progress.
If he's not a no1 defensemen then there surely aren't a lot of these around. What is Doughty? A borderline no2?

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Great Contract! Congratz Sens fans.

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eh Id rather have the cup.... how bout you
Yes and id rather have Tuukka Rask than Lundqvist..

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Anyone who thinks Karlsson is subpar at defending is delusional and does not realize how effective he is with his stick, skating and positioning. He is undeniably the best player at the defense position in my opinion, with Weber at second and Pietrangelo as third.

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Pretty much what I expected. Anything less would have been a steal.

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LOL @ Karlsson is not a #1 defenseman comment.

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I advise you go watch Erik Karlsson play, because I already know you haven't.

What a ludicrous comment.
Not even close to ludicrous. Take your goggles off and be objective rather than run around and go you're wrong to those of us who don't share your thoughts.

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A little steep (0.5mil high?) but the term isnt ridiculous so that evens it out.

Congratz Sens fans

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Not stuck in 2005. He's nowhere near a #1 defenseman. He may score a ton but as a dman your job is to defend and he doesn't know how to. One season isn't indicative of how he will progress.
Erik Karlsson

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Anyone who thinks Karlsson is subpar at defending is delusional and does not realize how effective he is with his stick, skating and positioning. He is undeniably the best player at the defense position in my opinion, with Weber at second and Pietrangelo as third.
I think Karlsson is underrated defensively, but this is ridiculous.

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Not stuck in 2005. He's nowhere near a #1 defenseman. He may score a ton but as a dman your job is to defend and he doesn't know how to. One season isn't indicative of how he will progress.
Oh wow, and I thought you were joking with your first comment, jeez.

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LOL @ Karlsson is not a #1 defenseman comment.

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Seriously? That's laughable.

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Not even close to ludicrous. Take your goggles off and be objective rather than run around and go you're wrong to those of us who don't share your thoughts.
Be objective? Honestly? Claiming that Erik Karlsson is a #1 D-man right now is not being objective?

I'm not wearing goggles, but you apparently are wearing a burlap sac over your head.

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LOL @ Karlsson is not a #1 defenseman comment.

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His 2010-11 ASG app was the same thing that Mark Redman in the 2006 mlb asg.
And this year he got because he got lots of points. But he isn't even top 50 in the defensive aspect

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Anyone who thinks Karlsson is subpar at defending is delusional and does not realize how effective he is with his stick, skating and positioning. He is undeniably the best player at the defense position in my opinion, with Weber at second and Pietrangelo as third.
Too far, methinks.

Karlsson is underrated defensively, as people mistake MacLean encouraging him to pinch with poor defensive play, but at the same time he isn't strong enough to be anywhere near the best defenceman.

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Erik Karlsson

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One nomination doesn't make you a #1 sorry. By your logic, Mike Green is a #1.

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Be objective? Honestly? Claiming that Erik Karlsson is a #1 D-man right now is not being objective?

I'm not wearing goggles, but you apparently are wearing a burlap sac over your head.
He's trolling.

Obvious troll was obvious.

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