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06-19-2012, 06:55 PM
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Pierre LeBrun on TSN: The #Flyers are "very aggressive" in their attempt to pry Rick Nash from Columbus.
didn't Nash say he wasn't interested in coming here?

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06-19-2012, 06:56 PM
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I imagine I will "very aggressively" vomit if they acquire him.

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06-19-2012, 07:01 PM
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Pierre LeBrun on TSN: The #Flyers are "very aggressive" in their attempt to pry Rick Nash from Columbus.
Harding signing in Minny might have given Holmgren another weapon for this trade - Bob, his value has risen.

I don't like it

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06-19-2012, 07:05 PM
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didn't Nash say he wasn't interested in coming here?
According to an unofficial Twitter NHL rumor account.

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LeBrun says #Rangers, #Flyers, #Sharks (but won't part with Couture) also among Nash suitors.

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Who needs defense, or draft picks?

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06-19-2012, 07:12 PM
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And at what point is Giroux's defense decent?

Look, I love Roo. His skill with the puck is so much fun to watch and the jawdropping dangles are awesome. He's fantastic. He can get himself or his linemates into scoring positions almost effortlessly.

But let's not pretend that he is anything but barely adequate defensively.
Who cares? Giroux is being paid not to be a defensive stalwart. He's being paid to put the puck in the net and make the players around him better. He's done that and has done that in spades.

Richards is gone. Get over it. He's not coming back. Besides, if you really want someone on this team to be a Richards clone, look no further than the 19 year old who did something Richards could never do on his best day - shut down Malkin and make it look easy.

I loved Richards when he was here, but it's time to move on.

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06-19-2012, 07:14 PM
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When his career is over, he'll be a Hall of Fame candidate and his number will hang from the rafters along with those of Clarke, Parent, Barber and Ashbee.
Taking nothing away from the year he had, it's a little premature to declare him HOF worthy. Can we at least see a 30 goal season? His 65 assists last year were stellar but 32 were on the power play.

As good as last year was, it will take 8+ years as good or better than 2011-12 before the HOF talk can even be taken seriously. Very long odds of it happening.

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06-19-2012, 07:52 PM
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i have my fingers crossed that this happens soon... i have the belief that you need 2 "stars" on your top line to be a truly dangerous team. if carolina makes a move and lands nash, they would be a very dangerous team wouldnt they??...with this being said, i wouldnt mind having parise either,but if the money is close ill take nash....

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06-19-2012, 07:57 PM
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Carolina still wouldn't be a real threat.. When staal does his disappearing act the first half of the season, he screws the team over

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Taking nothing away from the year he had, it's a little premature to declare him HOF worthy. Can we at least see a 30 goal season? His 65 assists last year were stellar but 32 were on the power play.

As good as last year was, it will take 8+ years as good or better than 2011-12 before the HOF talk can even be taken seriously. Very long odds of it happening.
Of course it's premature. Then again, that's the point of, you know, projecting and predicting things. I'm just expressing my personal opinion about Giroux here, and it's one I've had for over three years now.

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Pierre LeBrun on TSN: The #Flyers are "very aggressive" in their attempt to pry Rick Nash from Columbus.
I hope that means that Holmgren is offering the same players as before, but is now yelling into the phone.

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06-19-2012, 08:30 PM
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I hope that means that Holmgren is offering the same players as before, but is now yelling into the phone.


TAKE THE DAMN DEAL HOWSON


yes, holmgren is now black

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Who cares? Giroux is being paid not to be a defensive stalwart. He's being paid to put the puck in the net and make the players around him better. He's done that and has done that in spades.

Richards is gone. Get over it. He's not coming back. Besides, if you really want someone on this team to be a Richards clone, look no further than the 19 year old who did something Richards could never do on his best day - shut down Malkin and make it look easy.

I loved Richards when he was here, but it's time to move on.
I don't care how offensively talented a player is. There's no excuse to coast back and not even try on defense, which is something we saw Giroux do too many times this year.

Re: Richards and Couturier. Couturier reminds me kind of a clone between Richards and Carter. Not as naturally offensively talented as Carter offensively and not as physical as Richards, but he's able to use his body to shield the puck well and has a pretty nice shot (Carter) and has great defensive acumen (Richards).

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06-19-2012, 08:31 PM
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I hope that means that Holmgren is offering the same players as before, but is now yelling into the phone.
Well played.

I am not fully opposed to the notion of acquiring Nash--but I'm marching on something if Holmgren sends back two of our young roster forwards.

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I hope that means that Holmgren is offering the same players as before, but is now yelling into the phone.
His e-mails are using all caps. If we're trying to pry, maybe it means we're trying to pay less for him then they want. If true.

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06-19-2012, 08:43 PM
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His e-mails are using all caps. If we're trying to pry, maybe it means we're trying to pay less for him then they want. If true.
I got an idea.....send jody Shelley with the package, they will be forced to accept it

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06-19-2012, 08:47 PM
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No, not shelley.. We have to include the Klotz

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06-19-2012, 09:20 PM
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Absolutely zero chance I'd include Couturier. Wouldn't give up Schenn either. They'd get something like JVR, Read, Bob +.

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his e-mails are using all caps. If we're trying to pry, maybe it means we're trying to pay less for him then they want. If true.
we want nach!!! Giv him 4 jvr 'n stuff, like ... Ummm ..... Draft pix. 'k? Say yes. >:-(

edit: Crap! Can't write in all caps.

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didn't Nash say he wasn't interested in coming here?
Homer denied that Nash vetoed any trade.

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I imagine I will "very aggressively" vomit if they acquire him.
Well said, and ditto.

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06-19-2012, 10:16 PM
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we want nach!!! Giv him 4 jvr 'n stuff, like ... Ummm ..... Draft pix. 'k? Say yes. >:-(

edit: Crap! Can't write in all caps.

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And at what point is Giroux's defense decent?

Look, I love Roo. His skill with the puck is so much fun to watch and the jawdropping dangles are awesome. He's fantastic. He can get himself or his linemates into scoring positions almost effortlessly.

But let's not pretend that he is anything but barely adequate defensively.
Giroux's defense IS decent. I won't go any further than that though. The effort is certainly there. The natural prowess is not. He'll get better. Because he's not Mike Richards or Jeff Carter doesn't mean his defense is terrible.

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nash blows ....the end.

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