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06-19-2012, 09:01 PM
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Just for fun, can anybody imagine a deal which gets us into the top 7 and doesn't take a player from the core?

Bernier, Lokti, Moller & a 1st to Toronto for #5? (Probably not - Kadri is their Lokti.)

And a technical Q. If we wanted to use #30 to trade up, could we strike a small deal with CBJ to give up their option in advance?
He is more like Schenn in their eyes.

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06-19-2012, 09:16 PM
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I absolutely love Dumba too but we're not trading up for him. I think we trade back or stay at 30. Pierre McGuire has us taking a goalie lol (go figure - he must've forgot about Quick, Bernier, Jones, Zatkoff, Berube and Gibson). Oscar Dansk from Brynas

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gonna be curious to see if Tambellini offers congrats to the Kings about the cup after making it so obvious him and DL detest each other.

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06-19-2012, 10:23 PM
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I think DL and Tambellini are over their little beef

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I think we should trade up if Grigorenko drops far enough.

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06-20-2012, 09:59 AM
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And a technical Q. If we wanted to use #30 to trade up, could we strike a small deal with CBJ to give up their option in advance?
No reason I can see why not, however I'd imagine Columbus would want a draft pick or something for that. I'd be surprised if DL does anything of the sort.

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I absolutely love Dumba too but we're not trading up for him. I think we trade back or stay at 30. Pierre McGuire has us taking a goalie lol (go figure - he must've forgot about Quick, Bernier, Jones, Zatkoff, Berube and Gibson). Oscar Dansk from Brynas
Yeah, was ticked when i saw Pierre was picking for us, then just about lost it when he made that suggestion. And he implied Bernier was gone out the door too, but no clue as to where or when.

We have Quick who is still only 25, Bernier who is 24, just drafted a goalie with our top pick (albeit in round two) last year and have a solid prospect in Jones in the minors, not to mention Berube, but yeah, lets grab another goalie in round one. But he'll be the first one to jump down someone elses throat if they do something dumb.

He makes the draft so much less enjoyable to watch because you just KNOW he doesn't know much about any of these kids, especially outside of the top 5-10.

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06-20-2012, 10:09 AM
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Yeah, was ticked when i saw Pierre was picking for us, then just about lost it when he made that suggestion. And he implied Bernier was gone out the door too, but no clue as to where or when.

We have Quick who is still only 25, Bernier who is 24, just drafted a goalie with our top pick (albeit in round two) last year and have a solid prospect in Jones in the minors, not to mention Berube, but yeah, lets grab another goalie in round one. But he'll be the first one to jump down someone elses throat if they do something dumb.

He makes the draft so much less enjoyable to watch because you just KNOW he doesn't know much about any of these kids, especially outside of the top 5-10.
Agreed 100%. Pierre McGuire is a joke lol, we need prospects on the wing, we're very deep at goaltending and defense (Forbort, Hickey, Deslauriers, Muzzin, Campbell). Outside of Toffoli and Vey, our wingers are very weak. Even at center we're pretty weak. Have to step up our prospect pool

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06-20-2012, 10:13 AM
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Pierre McGuire has us taking a goalie lol (go figure - he must've forgot about Quick, Bernier, Jones, Zatkoff, Berube and Gibson). Oscar Dansk from Brynas

1) Zatkoff probably will not be re-signed (UFA, IIRC)
2) Bernier probably will be traded sooner rather than later.
3) Gibson has looked significantly less than impressive since we drafted him.

It would not surprise me if DL took another goalie.


And for the record, Quick is 26 and Bernier turns 24 in August.

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06-20-2012, 10:16 AM
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Hopefully we don't take a goalie. I am pretty happy with the pipeline as-is. They can pick one up in the later rounds or sign one, but we could really use another forward or defenseman in the pipeline.

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06-20-2012, 10:20 AM
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1) Zatkoff probably will not be re-signed (UFA, IIRC)
2) Bernier probably will be traded sooner rather than later.
3) Gibson has looked significantly less than impressive since we drafted him.

It would not surprise me if DL took another goalie.


And for the record, Quick is 26 and Bernier turns 24 in August.
I can see us taking another goalie too, but not with our first round pick (should Columbus not take it).

Btw, Bernier won't be traded until Quick can be locked in long-term I would imagine, which can't take place until July 1st at the earliest, so Bernier will still be in the picture on draft day. Gibson meanwhile had a pretty damn strong second half of the year and was solid in the playoffs in the Q.

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06-20-2012, 10:25 AM
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I can see us taking another goalie too, but not with our first round pick (should Columbus not take it).

Btw, Bernier won't be traded until Quick can be locked in long-term I would imagine, which can't take place until July 1st at the earliest, so Bernier will still be in the picture on draft day. Gibson meanwhile had a pretty damn strong second half of the year and was solid in the playoffs in the Q.
Exactly lol, I literally have nothing else to add. Bernier is going to be used a bargaining chip in the Quick negotiations, so he won't be moved until we've got a new deal for Quick. It wouldn't surprise me if we took a goalie either, just not in the first round

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06-20-2012, 10:54 AM
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Whoever we take at #211 is going to be a 20 goal scorer. Book it!

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With DL's track record in the 1st round is it bad that I'm hoping we trade 30th overall to a team like Washington, Carolina, or Nashville that has a glut of picks in hopes of being able to pick up a couple of choices in the 2nd or 3rd rounds?

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any one know if Kingvision will be in Pittsburgh doing interviews with Futa? or any of the scouts like they have in the past?

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With DL's track record in the 1st round is it bad that I'm hoping we trade 30th overall to a team like Washington, Carolina, or Nashville that has a glut of picks in hopes of being able to pick up a couple of choices in the 2nd or 3rd rounds?
It's not that bad.

Bernier, Lewis, Doughty, Teubert, and Schenn are all NHL'ers.

Hickey and Forbort are still to be determined.

And at 30, it's basically a 2nd rounder anyways and he's killed it in the 2nd.

Ryan is a for sure bust but Moller, Simmonds, Voynov, and Clifford are NHL'ers and Toffoli and Gibson look like solid bets.

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Just for fun, can anybody imagine a deal which gets us into the top 7 and doesn't take a player from the core?

Bernier, Lokti, Moller & a 1st to Toronto for #5? (Probably not - Kadri is their Lokti.)

And a technical Q. If we wanted to use #30 to trade up, could we strike a small deal with CBJ to give up their option in advance?

That's not enough for #5, Toronto will most likely get their Center they need badly with that pick.

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It's not that bad.

Bernier, Lewis, Doughty, Teubert, and Schenn are all NHL'ers.

Hickey and Forbort are still to be determined.

And at 30, it's basically a 2nd rounder anyways and he's killed it in the 2nd.

Ryan is a for sure bust but Moller, Simmonds, Voynov, and Clifford are NHL'ers and Toffoli and Gibson look like solid bets.
I'm not sold on Gibson, he just doesn't seem that impressive to me; I really hope he proves me wrong.

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With DL's track record in the 1st round is it bad that I'm hoping we trade 30th overall to a team like Washington, Carolina, or Nashville that has a glut of picks in hopes of being able to pick up a couple of choices in the 2nd or 3rd rounds?
I hope we do trade down for multiple picks or even better, trade our pick for a pick next year

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06-20-2012, 10:52 PM
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I'm not sold on Gibson, he just doesn't seem that impressive to me; I really hope he proves me wrong.
Didn't he have solid numbers in the second half of the season and in the playoffs? Regardless, it takes time for a goaltender to develop, I'm sure he'll eventually be solid, have faith

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Didn't he have solid numbers in the second half of the season and in the playoffs? Regardless, it takes time for a goaltender to develop, I'm sure he'll eventually be solid, have faith
Yes, but people I think have gotten spoiled in that a 2nd rounder actually needs time to develop. Gibson is a solid (very solid ) prospect but he's struggling with adapting to the game at a high level... He isn't going to be the next big thing, but he is a solid prspect that needs probably 2 or 3 years in the AHL before he'll be ready. He's every bit a Vesa Toskala instead of a Carey Price. But try to keep in mind What someone like Toskala got in trade...

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Martinez was amazing in the playoffs. Very much forgotten because of Doughty's amazing playoffs and Voynov's struggles.

No way does Dean trade Martinez, the Kings have the perfect blend on defense right now and they are all signed for next season.
I agree. Plus if Penner stays, who's gonna teach him more Spanish for future speeches?

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if we get the 1st rd pick, go for a winger. It will be kind of nice to see a little change but **** who knows we might even get a G if no one is going to pick Subban lol

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Exactly, Lombardi is definitely picking BPA here. Whatever falls to his lap, he might even trade him if he sees someone falling (like he did with Forbort, which I STILL disagree with!!! Wish we could've gotten Tarasenko or Etem). Oh well, we won the cup hahaha can't complain anymore >.<

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