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06-17-2012, 06:36 PM
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And if you are PIT, why trade in the division involving an impact player?
You don't have to. He's a UFA this year.

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You don't have to. He's a UFA this year.
you mean after this upcoming season right? (hint, hint)

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Spector's picks up Staples Newsday article,but gets Staples comments backwards.

Staples writes why the isles won't be in the mix for JayBo,Ballard,Martin and Michalek.But,Spector's reports that Staples lists them as trade possibilities.
Nice fact checking

http://spectorshockey.net/blog/sunda...-june-17-2012/
Arthur Staple reports Islanders GM Garth Snow isn’t expected to trade his first round pick (4th overall), but he is apparently trying hard to land a defenseman for his thin blueline, as only Mark Streit, Travis Harmonic and Andrew MacDonald will be returning next season. A restricted free agent like Montreal’s P.K. Subban might’ve convinced Snow to part with his pick, but sources say the Canadiens won’t part with Subban. Trade possibilities are what Staple considers “veterans playing mediocre hockey on fairly unworkable contracts” including Calgary’s Jay Bouwmeester, Pittsburgh’s Zbynyk Michalek and Paul Martin, and Vancouver’s Keith Ballard.

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06-17-2012, 11:45 PM
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Spector's picks up Staples Newsday article,but gets Staples comments backwards.

Staples writes why the isles won't be in the mix for JayBo,Ballard,Martin and Michalek.But,Spector's reports that Staples lists them as trade possibilities.
Nice fact checking

http://spectorshockey.net/blog/sunda...-june-17-2012/
Arthur Staple reports Islanders GM Garth Snow isn’t expected to trade his first round pick (4th overall), but he is apparently trying hard to land a defenseman for his thin blueline, as only Mark Streit, Travis Harmonic and Andrew MacDonald will be returning next season. A restricted free agent like Montreal’s P.K. Subban might’ve convinced Snow to part with his pick, but sources say the Canadiens won’t part with Subban. Trade possibilities are what Staple considers “veterans playing mediocre hockey on fairly unworkable contracts” including Calgary’s Jay Bouwmeester, Pittsburgh’s Zbynyk Michalek and Paul Martin, and Vancouver’s Keith Ballard.
If this was remotely true (it's not), then Snow would be wise to make the move At the draft to demonstrate a pulse to the market and show signs of attempting to improve before UFA season opens. Rather, isles will wait for sloppy seconds like the wiz trade (hailing that as some sort of success as he was on the roster for like 30 games).

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06-18-2012, 12:52 AM
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Do I read cap geek wrong or do we have a ton of space just to reach the cap floor? Cap geek says we have have $39M committed for 15 players (plus Yashin) and that includes Nino... With the cap at least temporarily at $70M for 2012-13, that means we need to get to $54M cap floor with 23 player, almost $2M average per player for those last 8 spots just to reach the floor. Brock Nelson is the only guy in the system not in those 15 that is over $2M ($2.8M)....Many not included in that 15 with a shot, such as Poulin, Ulstrom, Joensuu, Kabanov are under $1M. If we resign Martin (which seem likely) and Staios they likely won't make above the mark either. Maybe Murray will make a dent if he is our pick and makes the roster. I am curious to see how we get to the cap floor if the CBA is approved at $70M.. do we take dead salary and use creative accounting or make a real deal to bring someone in. Hopefully we finally make a real trade this year but please no more $5M salaries on over the hill players.

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=21
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2012/6/1...on-free-agency


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Leave it to Wang and Snow to do some creative accounting to reach the cap floor. In Wangs defense...Can the Isles even afford the cap floor? Sure Wang can, but as a business, you as the owner would do anything not to dig into your own personal wealth to fund the business.

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I notice Ballard is on that list - are Isles fans interested?

What would you offer?

In addition to him, his old partner Bouwmeester is also on there, they could form an effective 1st pairing on the Isle I think.

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06-18-2012, 05:27 PM
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Do I read cap geek wrong or do we have a ton of space just to reach the cap floor? Cap geek says we have have $39M committed for 15 players (plus Yashin) and that includes Nino... With the cap at least temporarily at $70M for 2012-13, that means we need to get to $54M cap floor with 23 player, almost $2M average per player for those last 8 spots just to reach the floor. Brock Nelson is the only guy in the system not in those 15 that is over $2M ($2.8M)....Many not included in that 15 with a shot, such as Poulin, Ulstrom, Joensuu, Kabanov are under $1M. If we resign Martin (which seem likely) and Staios they likely won't make above the mark either. Maybe Murray will make a dent if he is our pick and makes the roster. I am curious to see how we get to the cap floor if the CBA is approved at $70M.. do we take dead salary and use creative accounting or make a real deal to bring someone in. Hopefully we finally make a real trade this year but please no more $5M salaries on over the hill players.

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=21
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2012/6/1...on-free-agency
Yeah, we'll have to bring in at least one big salary in order to make the floor assuming not much changes with the cap in the new CBA.

Most likely, Snow will do what he's done the past couple summers, make significant offers to legitimate players (Ehrhoff, P. Martin) to try to make the floor. And if he strikes out, take on another team's short term contract problem (Rolston, Wizniewski) to make the floor.

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Two trade the Isles will make; 6th rounder for Tim Thomas and 5th rounder for Scott Gomez.

Combined cap hit $12.5 million. Actual dollars: $5 million

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06-19-2012, 11:23 AM
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I notice Ballard is on that list - are Isles fans interested?

What would you offer?

In addition to him, his old partner Bouwmeester is also on there, they could form an effective 1st pairing on the Isle I think.
Read the Newsday NYI article.

Those defenseman are described as playing mediocre hockey, with 'fairly unworkable' contracts.

Staples goes on to say Snow will look for another Wiz situation:a player on a short term deal,his team wanting to move him.I think we are more likely to see Snow trade for Leopold or Murray,both on 1 yr deals.

Regher told the press he's been heavily working the phones,that he wants the Sabres to get bigger/tougher.SJ just signed Stuart to an extension and Murray is thought to be the d-man on his way out.

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Two trade the Isles will make; 6th rounder for Tim Thomas and 5th rounder for Scott Gomez.

Combined cap hit $12.5 million. Actual dollars: $5 million
Chuckles has his hand out,asking the league to give him a piece of revenue sharing in the new cba.I read those checks can be as much as $10m a seasom,for a full share.

I doubt we'll see any obvious cap circumvention tricks,while the revenue sharing issue is still a possibility.

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Regher told the press he's been heavily working the phones,that he wants the Sabres to get bigger/tougher.SJ just signed Stuart to an extension and Murray is thought to be the d-man on his way out.
That's Darcy Regier. Unless Robyn Regehr has taken over.

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That's Darcy Regier. Unless Robyn Regehr has taken over.
Hey,we made a player with no experience our gm.

Why not the Sabres?

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I doubt we'll see any obvious cap circumvention tricks,while the revenue sharing issue is still a possibility.
Islanders don't qualify for revenue sharing because they are considered a big market team

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Islanders don't qualify for revenue sharing because they are considered a big market team
However, that may change with the new CBA.

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Most likely, Snow will do what he's done the past couple summers, make significant offers to legitimate players (Ehrhoff, P. Martin) to try to make the floor. And if he strikes out, take on another team's short term contract problem (Rolston, Wizniewski) to make the floor.
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Two trade the Isles will make; 6th rounder for Tim Thomas and 5th rounder for Scott Gomez.

Combined cap hit $12.5 million. Actual dollars: $5 million
First player that I thought of when I read Seph's post. I wouldn't be shocked, but I would be pissed.

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However, that may change with the new CBA.
The old reports on this issue made it seem QUITE LIKELY to change, as Bettman knows (now) that Long Island does not have skyscrapers or subways or Wall St. so it technically is not NYC as the league treats it.

That's NYR's market.

We have a market of 4 million people on two counties for all intents and purposes. SMALL market.

I believe they will fix it.

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Islanders don't qualify for revenue sharing because they are considered a big market team
Wang's one of a few owners, who've been lobbying to change the rules and get a share.

I'd like to think that extra $5m-$10m ,would go towards improving the roster.

http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ng-may-change/
“We have certainly heard from the Islanders and others over the years as to why that provision may be unfair in their circumstances,” said Daly. ” Revenue sharing is something we have collectively bargained with the union. We have a collective bargaining agreement coming up in a year and a half, and I suspect the revenue sharing model is something that’s going to be looked at closely. There may be changes.”

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I'd like to think that extra $5m-$10m ,would go towards improving the roster.
This could go two ways;

1.) Wang thinks (well this isn't my money) and spends on some decent players.

or

2.) Wang says "oh look, I'm getting free money back" and pockets it.

Which one do you think Wang is more likely to choose?

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This could go two ways;

1.) Wang thinks (well this isn't my money) and spends on some decent players.

or

2.) Wang says "oh look, I'm getting free money back" and pockets it.

Which one do you think Wang is more likely to choose?
Wishful thinking on my part but it would be really nice if they stipulated that any money from revenue sharing needs to be used to increase the cap floor.. i.e if they got $5M in rev sharing then cap floor for 2012/13 goes from $54 to $59M (assuming thhe $70M temporary cap stays in place with floor $16M below).

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Hey, looks like Bobby Ryan is back on the market

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...ailable-again/

3 years left on his deal, with an annual cap hit of $5.1 million. With Anaheim having Perry and Getzlaf coming up for FA after this year, they'll be looking to dump some salary.

I know it's likely a pipe dream, but here's one way to get up to the Cap Floor and would give JT a hell of a young wing to play with.

Does Nino, Poulin, and a 1st get it done?


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On NHL Tonight, they said that the Penguins may have a difficult time signing Staal to a new contract. The speculation was that Crosby is up for a new deal, Malkin's hit of $8.7 million and Jame's Neal's hit of $5 million could make it hard to retain Staal.
From a Pens' fan perspective, I don't think there will be an issue at all in re-signing Staal.

Staal currently makes $4 million, so even if his new deal is in the $5.5 to $6 million range, that's only an additional $2 million in cap space the Pens would need to free up. The Pens will move other salaries first before they'll let lack of room under the cap force them to deal Staal.

The only way a deal doesn't get done is if Staal is serious about wanting out, but from everyone involved (Shero, Staal) the comments indicate that's not the case.

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We are probably going to pick up some bottom feeder free agents with a little gas left in their tanks and sign them for one to two years.

I've already mentioned this, but I would really like to resign Adrian Aucoin at maybe 2.5m one year deal. He hits and is a reliable big guy for our blue line. Maybe a Filip Kuba or a Shane O'brien too to cover the guys we lost. I see Donovan stepping in and Dehaan getting cameo appearances throughout the year.

I think there will be a whole lot more random invites to camp like the previous years. I have a feeling a trade won't go through.

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