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06-21-2012, 02:01 PM
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Schenn + Kadri + 2nd
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Get a young d-man, and early 1st and upgrade center prospects.
I would do that.

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7.8 Million dollars is a lot of money.

21.3 Million dollars is a lot of cap hit.
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It's how much money and cap hit remain in the last 4 years of Luo's contract.

$7.8M is a lot of money? Do you mean to you personally? Cause its peanuts in the NHL.

And you don't understand how the salary cap works if you think Luongo's cap hit is $21.3 million at ANY point in his contract. (Here's a hint ... it's the exact same amount throughout the entire length of his contract )

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They were saying on TSN (I think) earlier today that Pavelec wants $5M/season (to match a KHL offer). Yikes ...
We will start the bidding with Byfuglien! (Or Enstrom...)

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What about
Toronto - Jose Theodore

Florida - Roberto Luongo, Clarke MacArthur, Mason Raymond

Vancouver - Nick Bjugstad, Quinton Howden, Shawn Matthias
Done deal, Florida fans?

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What about
Toronto - Jose Theodore

Florida - Roberto Luongo, Clarke MacArthur, Mason Raymond

Vancouver - Nick Bjugstad, Quinton Howden, Shawn Matthias
I can't see us giving up MacArthur for Theodore, maybe a 3rd or 4th though.

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It's how much money and cap hit remain in the last 4 years of Luo's contract.
Luongo's cap hit will always be $5.33M.

What he's owed in his last 4 years is roughly $13M combined.

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$7.8 million is peanuts to a team like the Leafs. Look at the LACK contracts aleady handed out by Burke. Heck he gave Wilson an extension before firing him.
Remind me to not invest in any companies you own or run

Just because your company is rich doesn't mean you should just throw that sort of money away. Especially when that money is on the books a number of years from now.

If I'm going to go to my boss and ask to burn almost 8 M in the parking lot I had better give him a damn good reason as to why I'm going to do that.

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06-21-2012, 02:06 PM
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I can't see us giving up MacArthur for Theodore, maybe a 3rd or 4th though.
? Theodore is almost an ideal fit (based on what Leafs fans keep saying..).

1. Cheap
2. Short term
3. Coming off 2 good years
4. Veteran

MacArthur is a dime a dozen (as I keep pointing out...) winger who can get 20/20 and makes $3 mil.

You'd actually save $1.6 mil in cap space in the trade.

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There's the chance that the next CBA makes it harder to hide bad contracts in the minors.

There's simply too much risk in having that contract on your books to give anything of value for it.

The goalie is great, don't get me wrong. That contract looks like a ticking timebomb.
There's not a chance in the world that happens. The NHLPA would nix it and the big market teams would nix it, too.

Owners were discussing the possibility of the amnesty clause, whereby you could buyout ONE contract at 100% and the player immediately becomes a free agent (like in the NBA).

If the owners are looking at new ways to get out of contracts, do you really think there's a chance they're going to go in completely the opposite direction and restrict themselves?

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06-21-2012, 02:08 PM
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Remind me to not invest in any companies you own or run

Just because your company is rich doesn't mean you should just throw that sort of money away. Especially when that money is on the books a number of years from now.

If I'm going to go to my boss and ask to burn almost 8 M in the parking lot I had better give him a damn good reason as to why I'm going to do that.
So if you (later) need to eat Luongo are you saying by adding him the Leafs wouldn't make the playoffs twice in the next 5 or 6 years to re-coupe that cost?

EDIT: Actually Luongo jersey sales alone would probably easily cover it.

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to Leafs: Luongo, Upshall
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According to some random blog Luongo trade is already done and was held up by the Leafs change in ownership.

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? Theodore is almost an ideal fit (based on what Leafs fans keep saying..).

1. Cheap
2. Short term
3. Coming off 2 good years
4. Veteran

MacArthur is a dime a dozen (as I keep pointing out...) winger who can get 20/20 and makes $3 mil.

You'd actually save $1.6 mil in cap space in the trade.
Firstly that deal with Florida hardly needs the Leafs in it haha.

Secondly if Burke wasn't willing to trade a 7th round pick for an interested Vokoun, I doubt we trade MacArthur for Theodore.

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Remind me to not invest in any companies you own or run

Just because your company is rich doesn't mean you should just throw that sort of money away. Especially when that money is on the books a number of years from now.

If I'm going to go to my boss and ask to burn almost 8 M in the parking lot I had better give him a damn good reason as to why I'm going to do that.
Compare that 7.8 million dollar cost to the revenue, and likely playoff revenue, he'd bring in by winning games though. It takes money to make money.

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According to some random blog Luongo trade is already done and was held up by the Leafs change in ownership.
Sounds like a legit source.

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Schenn + Kadri + 2nd
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Get a young d-man, and early 1st and upgrade center prospects.
i might consider this

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Firstly that deal with Florida hardly needs the Leafs in it haha.

Secondly if Burke wasn't willing to trade a 7th round pick for an interested Vokoun, I doubt we trade MacArthur for Theodore.
Burke probably didn't want to trade a 7th for Vokoun because he already knew Vokoun didn't want to play there.

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Luongo is bringing Aaron Rome with him to his new team.

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There's not a chance in the world that happens. The NHLPA would nix it and the big market teams would nix it, too.

Owners were discussing the possibility of the amnesty clause, whereby you could buyout ONE contract at 100% and the player immediately becomes a free agent (like in the NBA).

If the owners are looking at new ways to get out of contracts, do you really think there's a chance they're going to go in completely the opposite direction and restrict themselves?
So why would anyone trade for Luo when they are planning to use the possibility of an amnesty clause to buy out his contract? That doesn't make any sense.

I do think the league will try to make it harder to get out of these contracts. You can call me crazy but I think it's bound to happen. This is the same league that is considering ways to limit these long contracts in the future. I don't think it's too far fetched that they would try to make it hard to get out of them.

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No kidding. However, when the target asset in a trade holds negative value (Roberto Luongo), the team holding said negative asset must accept low trade value. It's just reality for the Canucks right now.
Well I for one am no longer going to respond to your posts after this. You have shown yourself repeatedly to either just be a troll or to be completely out to lunch.

It is OK... there are a few Vancouver fans that are this ridiculous as well. We tend to keep them away from the internet or sharp objects... but what can you do.

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This is laugh worthy...

And I will say it once more. Can we please deal him to Florida?

Both sides liked
Ellerby
Upshall
1st
And the Leafs pick up Theodore cheap giving us the stopgap we really need.
win-win-win

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Firstly that deal with Florida hardly needs the Leafs in it haha.

Secondly if Burke wasn't willing to trade a 7th round pick for an interested Vokoun, I doubt we trade MacArthur for Theodore.
Maybe BB knew Vokoun woulsn't be interested in signing?

Theodore gives you a decent starting goalie who can split games with Reimer (32-50, 41-41 however you want)

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I would do that.
That's terrible for Vancouver...saves no cap and doesn't contribute any top 6 forward or top 4 d-man.

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Burke probably didn't want to trade a 7th for Vokoun because he already knew Vokoun didn't want to play there.
All signs pointed to him wanting to play in Toronto, and from what I heard he offered Toronto the same deal as the Pens got, 2 years 2m per, but Burke didn't like that extra year.

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Mike Komisarek will likely head back to Vancouver if Loungu is indeed traded to Leafs

On tsn, Darren Dreger just said one of the likely players headed back in the Loungu trade will be Komisarek if the deal between Canucks and Leafs fall through.

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If anyone wants to watch it, then the video on the right side, on the 2nd page called Draftcentre: pressure's on.

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