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06-21-2012, 02:32 PM
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If TO needs to "Dump Cap" Lombardi probably makes the most sense for now as he can fill in for Kesler while Kesler rehabs then be waived after or moved if need be and is only on a one year term.

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Komi cant be sent to the minors. NMC. I highly doubt he wants to ride the pine
Uggh! How the heck did he get a NMC? That was pre-Burke right? Can he at least fetch coffee or wash uniforms for the team. He sure as hell ain't hitting the ice.

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06-21-2012, 02:33 PM
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I didnt mind the deal offered in the last thread by a Canucks poster.
Liles, 2nd(35th) and Colbourne.
Add 1 of LAC for salary reasons and it works for me.

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Luongo to Leafs for Gardiner + 5th overall.

Luongo to Panthers for Bjugstad + Upshall + 1st 2012.

It would cost TO more because Gillis doesn't want to help Leafs/Burke and Lou no doubt prefers Florida (would TO even be on the list??)
don't hold your breath

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06-21-2012, 02:34 PM
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Kadri is bigger, was drafted higher and has performed better at every level.
Sure you keep Schroeder and we keep Kadri, fine with us.
I'm sure you mean "except the world juniors" right?

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If Bryz was consistant (in a good way) then I could see them dealing him.
yep, i doubt philly will move bob, given how bryz played in the playoffs, so i guess it will be down to luongo or reimer/scrivens

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Bobrovsky sounds like the only alternative if lu's asking price is too high

But what could the philly possibly want in return?
Cap space. If they're really after Nash they'll need all they can get.

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Sure, fans can agree on a deal, but Florida's financial situation leaves them in no position to accept that kind of money. Not going to happen.
It wouldn't be that bad, and they have shown a willingness to take on a huge contract

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They aren't going to like the amount of money he's making in the first 6 years of his deal though.
Says who? I think they are looking at it as an investment in the teams future.

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Schenn + Kadri + 2nd
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Luongo + Schroeder

Get a young d-man, and early 1st and upgrade center prospects.
I don't think Kadri is a huge upgrade on Schroeder, Kadri put up more numbers but his defensive game is worse. Plus Schroeder has shown he can produce in the past.

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Toronto - Jose Theodore

Florida - Roberto Luongo, Clarke MacArthur, Mason Raymond

Vancouver - Nick Bjugstad, Quinton Howden, Shawn Matthias

I like this one too. This is why I like dealing with Florida a lot more options. There must be some common ground.


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Remind me to not invest in any companies you own or run

Just because your company is rich doesn't mean you should just throw that sort of money away. Especially when that money is on the books a number of years from now.

If I'm going to go to my boss and ask to burn almost 8 M in the parking lot I had better give him a damn good reason as to why I'm going to do that.
Umm you need to learn economics. You spend money to make money. other posters have replied to why.

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This article was in the toronto star yesterday. It's damien cox - Toronto only logical destination for Roberto Luongo

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...roberto-luongo

Please no more Cox! It is like the fifth time he has been brought up and he is a bigger idiot than both Gallager and Botch.

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Uggh! How the heck did he get a NMC? That was pre-Burke right? Can he at least fetch coffee or wash uniforms for the team. He sure as hell ain't hitting the ice.
Nope it was the genius that is Burke. Loves his truculence

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Luongo to Leafs for Gardiner + 5th overall.
Luongo to Panthers for Bjugstad + Upshall + 1st 2012.

It would cost TO more because Gillis doesn't want to help Leafs/Burke and Lou no doubt prefers Florida (would TO even be on the list??)
Gee...this is new....how about...no.

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Then just replace Mattias with a salary dump like Upshall.

I'm not sure how Florida is going to reach the cap floor without adding some salary though.
I still dont think they have any interest in trading Bjugstad. Especially to upgrade a position they dont need to upgrade.
Would they like to upgrade their goaltending? Sure but not at that price.

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Kadri is much better than Schroeder. IMO.

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Here's a question. So far, of every media source quoted or referred to, I haven't seen a single one that Vancouver fans consider reliable (that's putting it mildly) - even their own. (Not to say there hasn't been one, but I'm not going back through 11 threads in case I missed it!)

Who would Vancouver fans feel *is* somewhat reliable, informed, whatever? If we get that info, we could look for their thoughts on the subject.

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If TO needs to "Dump Cap" Lombardi probably makes the most sense for now as he can fill in for Kesler while Kesler rehabs then be waived after or moved if need be and is only on a one year term.
Connolly is a better center at both ends of the ice and also has 1 year left.
He is paid 1.2M more tho.

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As a fan of neither team, here is how I see it. Why would Vancouver trade a #1 goalie to Toronto for Komisarek when he would be a 6th-7th D-man? Yes...you could say they both have bad contracts, but Luongo is actuall STILL a good player. BIG DIFFERENCE!!

If I am the Canucks, I hold out for a deal that makes sense. And if it means starting the season with 2 #1's...so be it. Some team will get off to a slow start or have an injury and will be looking for a trade. Imagine if say Broduer gets hurt and is out for 3 months. They would jump at the chance to continue their winning ways.

There will be an opportunity at some point for a fair trade


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Gee...this is new....how about...no.
I sense that you're weakening. Two more Bond threads and we may just wear you down.

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don't hold your breath
I'm suggesting Gillis will demand that from Burke, Burke will say 'no', Lou to Panthers.

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I'm sure you mean "except the world juniors" right?
1 short tournament 3 years ago.
Who has been better in the AHL since?
The NHL?

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I still dont think they have any interest in trading Bjugstad. Especially to upgrade a position they dont need to upgrade.
Would they like to upgrade their goaltending? Sure but not at that price.
You could be right, maybe they don't want to trade Bjugstad...but the value is very good IMO. One of the better proposals I've seen amongst this nightmarish group of threads.

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Here's a question. So far, of every media source quoted or referred to, I haven't seen a single one that Vancouver fans consider reliable (that's putting it mildly) - even their own. (Not to say there hasn't been one, but I'm not going back through 11 threads in case I missed it!)

Who would Vancouver fans feel *is* somewhat reliable, informed, whatever? If we get that info, we could look for their thoughts on the subject.
There aren't really any media sources connected here in Vancouver since Gillis took over. They all just speculate and base their reports on their own opinions. Closest one I've seen to being connected is Dan Murphy

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Here's a question. So far, of every media source quoted or referred to, I haven't seen a single one that Vancouver fans consider reliable (that's putting it mildly) - even their own. (Not to say there hasn't been one, but I'm not going back through 11 threads in case I missed it!)

Who would Vancouver fans feel *is* somewhat reliable, informed, whatever? If we get that info, we could look for their thoughts on the subject.
What Vancouver media has been posted?



Damien Cox has been trashing Vancouver for well over a year.

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Here's a question. So far, of every media source quoted or referred to, I haven't seen a single one that Vancouver fans consider reliable (that's putting it mildly) - even their own. (Not to say there hasn't been one, but I'm not going back through 11 threads in case I missed it!)

Who would Vancouver fans feel *is* somewhat reliable, informed, whatever? If we get that info, we could look for their thoughts on the subject.
Any reporter that doesn't say gardiner and the 5th overall for luongo is not reliable and knows nothing about the canucks

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Kadri is bigger, was drafted higher and has performed better at every level.
Sure you keep Schroeder and we keep Kadri, fine with us.
Schenn is was drafted higher than Karlsson, Myers, Gardiner, Del Zotto, Carlson etc...

Draft position does not make you better player.

The only place Kadri has out performed Schroeder is the AHL...can't compare NCAA to OHL.

Like another poster said, Schroeder is the all time leader in points at the WJHC for an American.

We'll keep the guy who thinks better....Kadri bigger, Schroder is stronger.

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I heard it that way too, as in Gillis would have to take on a contract like Komisarek's to justify taking on Luongo's. Pretty much something we already knew.
I doubt Gillis would or could stop Burke from moving a bad contract somewhere else... The Canucks don't need to take back a bad contract... If Burke needs to get rid of a contract like Komisarek's to justify getting Luongo, that's Burke's problem, not Gillis'...

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Gee...this is new....how about...no.
Understood, first overall in 2013 should be the goal for the Leafs....

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