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06-21-2012, 08:58 PM
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I offer Dubinsky, Anisimov, Del Zotto and 1st for Ryan and rights to talk to Schultz first.

If that doesnt do it then move on and see what Dubi and AA can get together. If its not enough then keep them

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I offer Dubinsky, Anisimov, Del Zotto and 1st for Ryan and rights to talk to Schultz first.

If that doesnt do it then move on and see what Dubi and AA can get together. If its not enough then keep them
That is the most fair thing I read all day.

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I offer Dubinsky, Anisimov, Del Zotto and 1st for Ryan and rights to talk to Schultz first.

If that doesnt do it then move on and see what Dubi and AA can get together. If its not enough then keep them
Because, even though it's been said 15 million times, you still refuse to accept that the Ducks are looking for defensive defensemen, not offensive defensemen, and a second line center, not third line centers?

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I offer Dubinsky, Anisimov, Del Zotto and 1st for Ryan and rights to talk to Schultz first.

If that doesnt do it then move on and see what Dubi and AA can get together. If its not enough then keep them
I can't in good conscience give up 3 decent, experienced roster players for what has a high chance of ending up being only 1.

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Again, for the 1,000,000th time Anaheim has no interest in MDZ. They have 500 offensive defensemen, they needed defensive defensemen.

How many times does this have to be stated. We're not only have to build a trade to our liking but one that fits ANA's needs.

Many of you are forgetting that last part.

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I offer Dubinsky, Anisimov, Del Zotto and 1st for Ryan and rights to talk to Schultz first.

If that doesnt do it then move on and see what Dubi and AA can get together. If its not enough then keep them
The Rangers shouldn't be moving 3 roster players for 1.

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Again, for the 1,000,000th time Anaheim has no interest in MDZ. They have 500 offensive defensemen, they needed defensive defensemen.

How many times does this have to be stated. We're not only have to build a trade to our liking but one that fits ANA's needs.

Many of you are forgetting that last part.
If that's the case ... Staal + Dubinksy

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If that's the case ... Staal + Dubinksy
We've been over this already. Prepare to have 95% of the board scold you.

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Again, for the 1,000,000th time Anaheim has no interest in MDZ. They have 500 offensive defensemen, they needed defensive defensemen.

How many times does this have to be stated. We're not only have to build a trade to our liking but one that fits ANA's needs.

Many of you are forgetting that last part.
you've got to consider that they had schultz coming up who is another offensive defenseman, and just lost him. they'd much rather a shut down guy i'm sure, but i wouldn't rule mdz out w/ the loss of schultz. clearly they like the o guys. he may not be the best choice for them, but he's one of the few big pieces that we have worth trading. it's worth mentioning him.

i think they'd rather we involve guys like stepan/hags/AA-- but i'd rather include mdz

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If that's the case ... Staal + Dubinksy
How many more goals do you think Ryan would put up here over Dubinsky? You think the difference in their overall production is worth Staal?

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If that's the case ... Staal + Dubinksy
If sather trades any of the Dmen, he is a fool, we need 1 more, not 1 less.
But for the fun of it, Dubinsky and Sauer?

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How about offering Kreider if Howson includes the 2nd pick? Otherwise Howson is pretending Nash doesn't control the destination and Howson also has completely forgot that Nash has a full NMC. Howson is painting himself into a corner.

Everybody in Toronto thinks the Leafs will get Luongo for scraps yet Howson believes Nash is worth a back haul. Crazy times.

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There would be a long list of teams vying for Staal, including the likes of Toronto, Buffalo and Anaheim just to name a few. But as one NHL GM told ESPN.com Thursday evening, "Letís be honest, Carolina has the hammer."

If itís true that Jordan wants to join Eric in Carolina a year from now via unrestricted free agency, then the Hurricanes indeed have the hammer.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/i...pens-extension

There will be teams which will be interested in adding Staal as a rental for 12-13. Staal doesn't have a restriction clause. Shero will make the best deal for Pitt if they decide to trade him.

That GM sounds like Scott Howson.

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you've got to consider that they had schultz coming up who is another offensive defenseman, and just lost him. they'd much rather a shut down guy i'm sure, but i wouldn't rule mdz out w/ the loss of schultz. he may not be the best choice for them, but he's one of the few big pieces that we have worth trading. it's worth mentioning him.

i think they'd rather we involve guys like stepan/hags/AA-- but i'd rather include mdz
Is fowler and vishnovsky suddenly not on the ducks anymore?

Makes absolutely no sense to have 3-4 of your densement be offensive defensemen.

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If sather trades any of the Dmen, he is a fool, we need 1 more, not 1 less.
But for the fun of it, Dubinsky and Sauer?
Sauer has no value.

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If sather trades any of the Dmen, he is a fool, we need 1 more, not 1 less.
But for the fun of it, Dubinsky and Sauer?
i doubt anybody would risk taking sauer as part of a big deal(especially as the biggest piece). i love his play style, but let's face it. there's a high chance that he's not what he was when(if) he gets back. i think the fact that he's getting better certainly ups our chances of him rejoining the lineup, but for somebody to take his risk giving up one of their best players... no way.

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Sauer has no value.
I guess I forgot

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Would Girardi be in play for Ryan? I'd be reluctant to move him though

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Would Girardi be in play for Ryan? I'd be reluctant to move him though
He shouldn't be. Our best RH defenseman would be Stralman, and he's not even a guaranteed sign.

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Is fowler and vishnovsky suddenly not on the ducks anymore?

Makes absolutely no sense to have 3-4 of your densement be offensive defensemen.
i'm not arguing that it's unlikely, but they did want schultz despite him being another offensive defenseman (albeit schultz has a potentially strong defensive game as well).
you can't think there's absolutely no chance that they'd want del zotto. we don't have that many options.

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i'm not arguing that it's unlikely, but they did want schultz despite him being another offensive defenseman (albeit schultz has a potentially strong defensive game as well).
you can't think there's absolutely no chance that they'd want del zotto. we don't have that many options.
Just because we don't have a lot of options as you but it it doesn't mean that Anaheim will be forced into taking something they don't like. They're not forced to move Ryan unfortunately so they're going to have to like our offer or they will just hold on to him or move him to another team.

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I love Marc Staal, however in his absence earlier this season it opened the door for McDonough and MDZ. Both players truly emerged as huge components to this club. Next year you have Erixon who if not included in some sort of deal will likely make the club.

So, it's its stay at home the Ducks want could a deal around centered around Ryan/Stall work? Maybe Staal/Anisimov/Pick for Ryan and rights to Schultzy?

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He shouldn't be. Our best RH defenseman would be Stralman, and he's not even a guaranteed sign.
So the only option would be to move Staal really and I dont want to add to him so we are basically not the best trading partners with Anaheim for this deal. I wanted Bobby in blue too :/

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06-21-2012, 09:23 PM
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I love Marc Staal, however in his absence earlier this season it opened the door for McDonough and MDZ. Both players truly emerged as huge components to this club. Next year you have Erixon who if not included in some sort of deal will likely make the club.

So, it's its stay at home the Ducks want could a deal around centered around Ryan/Stall work? Maybe Staal/Anisimov/Pick for Ryan and rights to Schultzy?
Thats the deal I originally proposed minus Schultz.

Gives Anaheim their 2nd line center, defensive defenseman, pick and maybe another prospect.

Anaheim fans said they wanted Stepan + to be the deal.

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I love Marc Staal, however in his absence earlier this season it opened the door for McDonough and MDZ. Both players truly emerged as huge components to this club. Next year you have Erixon who if not included in some sort of deal will likely make the club.

So, it's its stay at home the Ducks want could a deal around centered around Ryan/Stall work? Maybe Staal/Anisimov/Pick for Ryan and rights to Schultzy?
People need to chill out, our offense is not bad enough to warrant trading any of our top 3 d.

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