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06-22-2012, 02:42 AM
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If Patrick Kane can play center, anyone can.
Agreed. Johansson's problem at center is not lack of strength, it's lack of offensive hockey IQ. He does not see the ice well enough to make plays. It remains to be seen whether he can develop his vision of the ice.

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06-22-2012, 04:18 AM
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Caps fans are impatient when in comes to MJ90. He will very soon be a fantastic 2nd line player. As he is now, he is still learning and improving as a young player just completing his second season. If he manages to complete even half of his "rookie" mistakes, kid could put up 70pts consistently.

The debate as to whether he is a better wing or center is valid. He plays better on the wing and doesn't seem to be as much of a liability in the circle.

MJ90 just needs another season to improve, like Flash did. However, if they could add another Center to play on the 2nd line and move MP85&MJ90 both to the wings, the Caps could have a much more balanced attack.

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06-22-2012, 04:43 AM
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Flash has never even scored 70 points in a season, he barely even broke 60 this season. Projecting 60 for Johansson is optimistic to begin with.

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06-22-2012, 04:54 AM
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I was referring to the need for patience and the fact that it took a few seasons, but Flash eventually saw a huge leap in his point development. MJ90 saw a 19 point improvement during his sophomore slump over his rookie season. Yes he makes mistakes and no he isn't the most talented player in the world, but I think he has good hands, improving vision and hockey IQ, and tremendous skating. He needs to get better and he will. He's just a kid still. Another season or two and he is going to be a player you really don't want to let go of.

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06-22-2012, 06:07 AM
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Caps fans are impatient when in comes to MJ90. He will very soon be a fantastic 2nd line player. As he is now, he is still learning and improving as a young player just completing his second season. If he manages to complete even half of his "rookie" mistakes, kid could put up 70pts consistently.

The debate as to whether he is a better wing or center is valid. He plays better on the wing and doesn't seem to be as much of a liability in the circle.

MJ90 just needs another season to improve, like Flash did. However, if they could add another Center to play on the 2nd line and move MP85&MJ90 both to the wings, the Caps could have a much more balanced attack.
I sincerely doubt MJ will be a 70pt player. A more realistic target for him is a defensively solid 55pt center.

The main problem with Johansson at center is not poor FO%. Hell, Malkin has poor FO%. The real issue is that he does not make plays. How many memorable assists by MJ can you recall from this season? We could deal with him being below average at the dot if he compensated for that in other ways, which he doesn't, and was therefore moved to the wing.

Unfortunately, there's also a problem with MJ at the wing - he turned out to be a very poor finisher. His shot is average at best, and he misses a ridiculous percentage of tip-ins. Seriously, if MJ scored at last 1/3 of his open net tip-in opportunities during this past playoff run, Caps would be in the Conference Finals.

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06-22-2012, 06:21 AM
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He only had 90 shots in 80 games, so I absolutely agree he needs to shoot the puck more. But with a 15.6% shooting percentage he had a better shot than Neal had this past season with his 12.2%. Not saying he is better than Neal, just saying his shot isn't bad he just needs to shoot more. Also, MJ90 put up 32 assists this past season. Not bad for a 21 year old that "doesn't make plays".

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06-22-2012, 06:43 AM
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Tough call here, but I would try to trade #11 if it could get us closer to having two legitimate strong top forward lines. At #16 you take the best available forward.

I also think Patrick Wey gets a good luck in camp this year. By all accounts he is just about ready.

Hopefully Green is gone and we can completely hand the D to Alzner, Carlson, Orlov. You have Hamrlik for another year of mentoring and you fill in 5/6 with Schultz (unfortunately he is not going anywhere), Erskine, Wey and/or a signing.

If we HAVE to resign 'Glass' Green it had better be at 4-4.5, he is not worth more.


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06-22-2012, 07:40 AM
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Green will sign his QO which is over $5m so you're outta luck there. Also, I could see Kundratek getting a solid shot at camp as well. He's a good defender for the bottom pair/#7 D.

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downie for the 16th pick? I just want tom wilson that kid is going to be a beast.
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06-22-2012, 07:45 AM
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Backstrom is 6'1'' 210 and your number one

Johansen is 5'11''190 and easily could be your number two.

You do not need every center on your team to be 6'0-6'3'' to be successful.
I Mojo isnt good enough to be the 2nd line center, hes better off playing wing..

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06-22-2012, 08:12 AM
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I sincerely doubt MJ will be a 70pt player. A more realistic target for him is a defensively solid 55pt center.

The main problem with Johansson at center is not poor FO%. Hell, Malkin has poor FO%. The real issue is that he does not make plays. How many memorable assists by MJ can you recall from this season? We could deal with him being below average at the dot if he compensated for that in other ways, which he doesn't, and was therefore moved to the wing.

Unfortunately, there's also a problem with MJ at the wing - he turned out to be a very poor finisher. His shot is average at best, and he misses a ridiculous percentage of tip-ins. Seriously, if MJ scored at last 1/3 of his open net tip-in opportunities during this past playoff run, Caps would be in the Conference Finals.
How about the one on the playoff OT winner by Backstrom in the Boston series?

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06-22-2012, 08:23 AM
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I think Washington drafts a centre at #11 and trades down from #16.

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06-22-2012, 09:01 AM
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He only had 90 shots in 80 games, so I absolutely agree he needs to shoot the puck more. But with a 15.6% shooting percentage he had a better shot than Neal had this past season with his 12.2%. Not saying he is better than Neal, just saying his shot isn't bad he just needs to shoot more. Also, MJ90 put up 32 assists this past season. Not bad for a 21 year old that "doesn't make plays".
Judging a player's shot by his shooting percentage is not as straightforward as you seem to think. The fact that he only had 90 shots over 80 games if anything is an indication that he doesn't trust his shot. In the playoffs, where he shot the puck considerably more often, his shooting percentage dropped to 4.5%.

Johansson put up 46 points while seeing significant 1st line duty and PP time. That's not great.
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How about the one on the playoff OT winner by Backstrom in the Boston series?
That was a good one, I'll give you that. Unfortunately it was one of his only 3pts in 14gp for the playoffs.

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06-22-2012, 12:07 PM
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Why do any teams make the moves they do? Maybe they want one of the Galyenchuk, Grigorenko, Forsberg of the world and NOT Faksa, et al..
No chance they throw #16 to move up six spots in this kind of draft. And you're assuming two things:

1- Galchenyuk, Grigorenkno, and Forsberg are ranked above Faksa et al. by the Caps.

2- Galchenyuk, Grigorenko, and Forsberg will all be taken by #11

Neither one of those is a particularly safe assumption in this draft.

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