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Ive read that. But it doesnt explain WHY he was limited to an ELC.
Explain how Cervenka, and according to you, Brunner, are limited to ELCs, while someone like Matt Gilroy wasnt.
EDIT: Please. Sorry didnt mean to come off as demanding, Im honestly curious what the differences in contract eligibility are.
I never took it as demeaning, don't worry. I think we are all a bit confused.
But with Cervenka I ask myself 1 question, why would he sign an ELC if he didn't have to? It also doesn't make sense that a player would have a choice if a contract is an ELC.
As for guys like Gilroy and Read, all I can say is NCAA players seem to have a different set of rules based on whether or not they were drafted, how long after being drafted they graduated... etc.
I have nothing to back this up, but I wonder if it's not something spelled out in the various Transfer agreements with Euro Leagues. The KHL doesn't have one, so maybe Cervanka had to? just spit balling here.
Section 9.1 c of the CBA is why Cervenka and Brunner are subject to the ELC system
Quote:
Notwithstanding the chart set forth in (b) above, a Player who at the time
he was drafted was playing for a team outside North America or who meets the
qualifications set forth in Article 8.4(a)(v) (a "European Player") who signs his first SPC
at ages 25-27 shall be subject to the Entry Level System for one (1) year. A European
Player who signs his first SPC at age 28 or older is not subject to the Entry Level System
under any circumstances.
So if Cervenka or Brunner were over 28 years old they would not be limited by an ELC
I have nothing to back this up, but I wonder if it's not something spelled out in the various Transfer agreements with Euro Leagues. The KHL doesn't have one, so maybe Cervanka had to? just spit balling here.
Cervenka's contract in Russia has ended though, so nothing to do with a transfer agreement would be needed though.
Elite Prospects said there was a rumor the Dallas Stars were interested, but when you clicked on the link it wasn't to a story. It was a link to the homepage of a Swiss (I think it was Swiss) paper. When you searched their archives, there was not a single article saying Dallas was in the mix.
So ... without a legitimate rumor who knows ... but Dallas would definitely be in on a player like this IMO. I don't know that the Stars offer him the best situation, but he's be pretty good for what Dallas needs. They need a short term stop gap to allow their winger prospect some more time in the AHL.
I figured they'd find that via trade rather than free agency see you often have to over pay term and $$$, but a 1 year ELC would be perfect. Plus, if he busts, you've got 4 or 5 winger prospects that could take his place.
Interesting... I'm really surprised that both TBL and PIT are out of question now. I mean... who is left? Minnesota? Calgary?
Who could use a creative RW at the moment?
Or will he stay in Switzerland?
Confusing...
Calgary seems like a good fit since both Baertschi and Hartley have Swiss league connections, and Feaster's aggressive pursuit of Cervenka suggests he's seriously looking at overseas and college players as a way to add depth in the 22-26 age range.
Plus, someone eventually has to replace Iginla as the team's mainstay RW, maybe the Flames feel Brunner could be their guy. They currently have a RW spot open on the 3rd line with Sven and Backlund.
Interesting... I'm really surprised that both TBL and PIT are out of question now. I mean... who is left? Minnesota? Calgary?
Who could use a creative RW at the moment?
Or will he stay in Switzerland?
Confusing...
I think Calgary could be in the mix, but who knows. They went hard after Cervenka and could be doing the same here, plus with the Swiss connections in Hartley and Baertschi, who knows.
According to the swiss newspaper, Brunner and Detroit have agreed on a contract. But it won't published before July 1st. In the same article Brunner says, that there are still three teams left. Obviously, Minnesota is another one.
Difference is that Brunner has played at a high level in Switzerland for the last 4 seasons. Scoring 190 points in 168 games. While Brunnström came out of nowhere, had one solid season (a season were he faded towards the end of the season) at the highest level in Sweden, before he signed with Dallas.
So while Brunner could very well turn out to be a player who fail to convert his game to the North American game. Comparing him to Brunnström is unfair. Since he has a lot more experience at a high level, then Brunnström had when he signed.
According to the swiss newspaper, Brunner and Detroit have agreed on a contract. But it won't published before July 1st. In the same article Brunner says, that there are still three teams left. Obviously, Minnesota is another one.
The Wild's beat writer a few confirmed a few days back that they were no longer pursuing him. Granted, Brunner's decision could have been made at that point.
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